View Full Version : Artificial Way Of Thinking

Salah ad-Din
11-28-2010, 12:27 PM
Hi to everyone! I am playing TOW since the time of Medieval 1, but only recently I've started playing online battles, and by recently I mean Napoleon. In the past times I was playing only LAN battles with my friends in internet cafes because I didn't have any fast internet connection to play online.
After this short forward I would like to post the following question: Why, when I play online, with people from the community I feel like I am playing with the AI ???!!!.
To be specific, why most of the people I've played with, never use any kind of tactics and instead they play as they were running in a program.
1 The battle begins
2 Start advancing the whole of your army towards the center of the field ( without any kind of maneuvering!!!)
3 Deploy the artillery
4 Start firing with your troops and artillery
5 Charge the cavalry to the rout the opposing one
6 END (repeat this to infinity!!!)
For example: do not start advancing your troops immediately as the battle begins. For God's sake at least see how I've deployed my forces, wait a minute, and make a PLAN to win!!! Try at least to maneuver some of your troops as a detachment to disrupt my attention or try to trick me anyway. And the most important: MAKE me THINK! By using your movements or actions that you are up to some kind of a HUMAN plan!!!
I am playing online because I want to feel the human presence and not to have the sense that I am playing against R2-D2!!!!!
I don't want to insult anyone, I started this post only to have a friendly conversation and nothing more. As I said before I am new in the TOW online community and don't know much of how things work here. Please try to correct me and guide me through the online aspect of the game.

Nedkil Speedmeister G
11-28-2010, 12:43 PM
Hi firstly loooooool sorry i had to get that out of the way!!,Ok i know exactly what you mean and in a lot of online battles you are very correct.However i must say there are lots of players out there who are not like this honestly!!,Please feel free to check some of my vids http://www.youtube.com/user/NEDKILProductions?feature=mhum you will see that MY gameplay differs a lot from what you are explaining and witnessing.I will suggest if you play against anyone on the flatter maps then what you have seen so far will still occur SO dive into the pool of the other maps available where there is plenty of room for movement and tactics to be executed.I hope you find more enjoyment from the other maps as i myself find the flatter maps very boreing and very as you say predictable.

Salah ad-Din
11-28-2010, 01:24 PM
Thank you for your video, it was very nice indeed. That's the type of players I would like to play with. You are giving the opportunity to your enemy, by the way you are playing, to USE HIS MIND and not just go straight to face you, instead he is obliged to keep his troops in action and try to figure out what you are up to. I believe that the true fun of the game is to use your superiority in the way of thinking to win, in the end:that's the reason why TOW is called a strategy game!!

Nedkil Speedmeister G
11-28-2010, 01:34 PM
Yes true ALWAYS thinking,moving,probing,annoying,provoking,dancing ,diverting attention these are ALL key elements to my play,If you wish to add me on steam feel free ok,If i have time for a game or more i will oblige ok heres my id. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006643211/ ,if you are not accepted straight away do not worry ok as my friend list is always full due to tournement involvement for NEDKIL ok.I like to attack from ALL possible fronts if the terrain allows this as i believe it is the natural way to do things.The game to me is like the game chess ie.you must think a lot in advance and have counter moves if all goes wrong BUT sometimes believe me it does go wrong for me lol,This is my phrase i always use "You learn more from a defeat than a victory" i believe this is very true.

11-28-2010, 02:09 PM
Many people would call you camper.
You could get weak players or not .But youre correctly ,some points i could add,but not all play like youre last oponents .

11-28-2010, 02:51 PM
i also try to play in different ways, try adding me


look for videos on youtube, I can recommend these, aside from nedkil





Try adding these guys on steam, they are very good and helpful

CA Dave
11-28-2010, 03:38 PM
Honestly - I really don't think this is the case at all. If anything I have problems with people *not* advancing. But then again - breaking a standard camper is never too hard.

I never really play the flat maps however. I like maps with twisty rivers and fjords. Overwhelming/outmanoeuvring your enemy over a choke-point I find very satisfying. :cool: