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  1. 03-04-2012 01:29 AM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDuke View Post
    -4 morale is alot.
    I thought it was -1 morale?
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  2. 03-04-2012 01:30 AM #42
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    Thats scare enemies.
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  3. 03-04-2012 01:47 AM #43
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    Compared to unbreakable morale no it's not.
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  4. 03-04-2012 01:53 AM #44
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    and -3-4 def, also being a FREE ability/lvl 5 upgrade, Thats still PRETTY good.
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    Not as good as unbreakable morale for 4 units....
    Imagine, warcry costs 50 (arbitrary number) and decreases morale and melee defense of units in radius, while it can be a lot, it is not assured, hold firm affects the 3 closest ones, in the radius, for same amount of time, and is unbreakable, unlike warcry, which is a finite decrease.
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    and HF gives +6 def to the units along with unbreakable morale...
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  7. 03-04-2012 04:51 AM #47
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    120 koku while War cry is free
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  8. 03-04-2012 05:10 AM #48
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    Warcry really isn't free when it's in the cost with the unit, just like banzai for ND
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  9. 03-04-2012 06:18 AM #49
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    thats a really opinionated statement. because how do we calculate that in?
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  10. 03-04-2012 06:21 AM #50
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    Do you really think nag monks and ND would be worth their cost without their special skills?
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