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    Quote Originally Posted by JEPVA View Post
    Be careful for what you wish - the game would then have to recreate the hurricane and tornado that hit the British troops upon their withdrawal from Washington the following day- and put out the fires to boot! Rather providential, wouldn't you say? Beware the ethereal ally!
    Alright, I'm going to raise this thread once more from the dead before a moderator finally comes and drives last nail into the proverbial coffin of the thread.
    The war of 1812, by the views of both Americans and Canadians, was arguably the most pointless, poorly-commanded war (by both sides) that occurred between us. The Americans say they won because us Canadians realized how incapable Britain was of defending us, and demanded our independence as to raise our own standing army. We Canadians say we won because the Americans were technically the aggressors in the war, and despite all their efforts, gained no ground.

    To show just how much of a tie game the War of 1812 was, the Americans stormed York (modern day Toronto) and burned the Canadian parliament buildings to the ground. The new nerve centre of Canada was re-located to Ottawa, which, despite its strategic location, was an absolute rust-bucket slum of a city at the time. In response the British sent a division of the Peninsular Army, which razed and pillaged quite a lot of American territory, including Washington. Result: Tie Game

    Earlier in the war, the aggresions started with the American General Hull, who is depicted in Canadian history books to be a completely incompetent, xenophobic moron of a general. Hull predicted the war as being "A mere matter of marching". It very well may have been that easy for Hull, if he hadn't told his troops to burn and pillage the first few cities who indifferently allowed the Americans entry. General Hull later surrendered at the siege of Detroit, when a vastly inferior force of Canadian militia and Native Americans set up shop outside of the walls, and scared him into giving up the fort without a pitched battle. Of course the events after this would not be kind to us Canadians, General Brock, the mastermind of the "Detroit Bluff", was shot leading a charge at the battle of Queenston heights, where the Canadian armies managed to only barely weather out the storm of the American assault. The Aboriginal Chief Tecumseh, who had assisted Brock in several battles earlier, found his Aboriginal coalition surrounded; abandoned by their allies, and severely out-gunned and out numbered, the Aboriginal Coalition was butchered by the advancing Americans. Result: Tie Game

    All in all, the War of 1812 wasn't so much a "War" in the scope of the TW series, but merely a series of military fiascoes and mishaps.

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    Very good idea in my opinion . Napoleon: Total War is the best strategy game !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machofish View Post
    Alright, I'm going to raise this thread once more from the dead before a moderator finally comes and drives last nail into the proverbial coffin of the thread.
    The war of 1812, by the views of both Americans and Canadians, was arguably the most pointless, poorly-commanded war (by both sides) that occurred between us. The Americans say they won because us Canadians realized how incapable Britain was of defending us, and demanded our independence as to raise our own standing army. We Canadians say we won because the Americans were technically the aggressors in the war, and despite all their efforts, gained no ground.

    To show just how much of a tie game the War of 1812 was, the Americans stormed York (modern day Toronto) and burned the Canadian parliament buildings to the ground. The new nerve centre of Canada was re-located to Ottawa, which, despite its strategic location, was an absolute rust-bucket slum of a city at the time. In response the British sent a division of the Peninsular Army, which razed and pillaged quite a lot of American territory, including Washington. Result: Tie Game

    Earlier in the war, the aggresions started with the American General Hull, who is depicted in Canadian history books to be a completely incompetent, xenophobic moron of a general. Hull predicted the war as being "A mere matter of marching". It very well may have been that easy for Hull, if he hadn't told his troops to burn and pillage the first few cities who indifferently allowed the Americans entry. General Hull later surrendered at the siege of Detroit, when a vastly inferior force of Canadian militia and Native Americans set up shop outside of the walls, and scared him into giving up the fort without a pitched battle. Of course the events after this would not be kind to us Canadians, General Brock, the mastermind of the "Detroit Bluff", was shot leading a charge at the battle of Queenston heights, where the Canadian armies managed to only barely weather out the storm of the American assault. The Aboriginal Chief Tecumseh, who had assisted Brock in several battles earlier, found his Aboriginal coalition surrounded; abandoned by their allies, and severely out-gunned and out numbered, the Aboriginal Coalition was butchered by the advancing Americans. Result: Tie Game

    All in all, the War of 1812 wasn't so much a "War" in the scope of the TW series, but merely a series of military fiascoes and mishaps.
    One of the main problems about that war which many historians agree on is that communications were very limited at that time. During the years of that war, it would take an average of three to five months for a letter to traverse the Atlantic Ocean which is partially to blame for the war. As anyone who studies history knows, is that during the Napoleonic wars, Great Britain was seizing sailors from the American Merchant marine and conscripting them into the Royal Navy. Though what history never talks about is that three weeks before the outbreak of war, the U.K ceased conscripting sailors for its navy and by the time the U.S learned of their actions t ease the tensions, it was already to late, the U.K and U.S were at war.

    Though, even though the U.S Army wasn't very successful, the Navy had much more success than their Army counterparts, which is largely do to the new frigates that were being built in the U.S which had wood that was as strong as Iron, which is most notiable in the USS Constitution where the 32pounder carronade cannon shells would harmlessly bounce off of its hull.
    Having Attila unplayable for Total war: Attila is just like making Napoleon: Total War and having Napoleon and France unplayable.

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