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DetailedEyes wrote: »
Segmentata was relatively rare, pretty expensive and not that much better than mail or scale. Someone who knows more than me can probably go into more detail but I think that's the gist of it.
kingsword wrote: »
Plates in fact protect the wearer against blunt and axes more than chainmail, all tests prove that. Chainmail doesn't even try to absorb the blunt trauma, it doesn't even transfer most of it because all of it goes through unhindered. Axes also rip through it with sheer force. So I don't see how segmenteta can fare worse than something that doesn't even perform.
59tiger95 wrote: »
Segmentata also had a interesting disadvantage: due to the fact it was solid plates locked together in a way similar to medieval knights blunt weapons such as axes and clubs actually were more likely to hurt the solider wearing segmentata than Hamata. And what do you know the germanic tribes during the Segmentata's lifespan used axes and clubs primarily. And due to the way it is put together it is harder to maintain on the field and doesn't last as long.
Sjiriki wrote: »
I kinda feel like the total war siege AI is taking revenge on my for abusing it for 10+years
Tomice wrote: »
Wasn't blunt damage best absorbed by the "undergarment"? Wearing padded underclothes under chain mail seems like a very effective (and comfortable) protection vs. blunt weapons.
ashmizen wrote: »
I think the key may be the lack of physical strength of the legions at this point.
There's a text somewhere by a general in 300-400AD to the effect that Roman soldiers went to war without wearing their armor complaining that they were too heavy. As a result, during the battle against the Goths, they got slaughtered by the arrows, being unarmored. The Roman general basically said their soldiers are totally out of shape, and lacked the disciplined physical training that a real soldier should have.
Given that, mail is going to be a lot lighter, and these out of shape soldiers are going to prefer that.
Bane1778 wrote: »
I believe the main factor was the cost, as the previous armor wasn't that much better than chainmail and was much more expensive and difficult to maintain.
I do have a question for any Roman history buff though, why did they switch from rectangular shields to oval and round shields? Anyone know?