I did not find any thread on this topic, but if there is one excuse this post.
I was trying to sell TWW to a friend and showed the trailer and said: "everything you see will be in the game."
The trailer does promise that everything that is shown will be in the game right? I'd hate to be a proved a liar.
So at the very end of the trailer a Greater Pigeon of Tzeentch is shown. Is there any information (or speculation*) about what that exactly is? Is it a unit or NPC spawn that appears when the influence of Chaos is great enough?
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0 · Disagree Agreechance it will be in the first game: 25%;
chance it will be in a game: 95%;
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We know nothing and the minor speculation at the time of the first video was on a level of wildness rarely see without the accompanying tin foil hat(which are mostly made of aluminum).
Some think it was going to be a chaos god per game.
others that it was an effect for casters to worry about.
and some just thought it was chosen because it looks wired.
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0 · Disagree AgreeAs for the Greater Daemon, I imagine they will be in the game, yes. I don't see why they would centralise the trailer around having one in it and then not delivering.
Having said that, other Warhammer games have had them in their trailers and such, but have not delivered in the actual game. This could simply be due to the fact that Greater Daemons are cinamatically pleasing hhaha
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0 · Disagree AgreeDaemons of Chaos will come in one of the later expansions (I cant see them making Daemons of Chaos as DLC at this point, because people would FREAK out just on principle) and with that race I'm sure we will see Greater Daemons. But it will probably be a couple of years from now.
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0 · Disagree AgreeI'm sure the trailer was very well thought out, hinting at stuff that will come at some point in the trilogy. I just don't think they'll be playable or seen in cutscenes in the first game. I would love to be wrong though!
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0 · Disagree Agreeduring the "how did they do the trailer" video, they said most of the assets they used were already modeled by the game developers and they just added some more detail to them. This means that the Lord of Change was already an asset they made.
Might be an indication that they will be in, or that they made the models, but scrapped them to be added with downloadable content or a future expansion
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0 · Disagree AgreeI hope it's a feature thing involving chaos, as suggested by the video of the priest turning.
Corruption reached a certain percentage, and a greater "Skeksis" is spawned you can battle with.
From a marketing standpoint, everything the company says or does is a promise - but mistakes happen. Not too sure if the announcement trailer would promise too much that we're not going to see in the initial release. But we'll see.
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0 · Disagree AgreeI think the Lord of Change will be in the trilogy at some point, but I am skeptical of the idea it will be in on the first release.
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0 · Disagree AgreeChaos from the Chaos Wastes led by Archeon is the end threat, sorta I think. Judging from the greenskin campaign trailer it showed the land as already having a % of Chaos (or Vampiric) influence. So it's possible Chaos influence might grow early on and effect your settlements.
Holy ****, you're right. Though that game as I understood it promised a lot more than it could deliver too. Larger battles for one. CA is hopefully a bigger, better funded organisation that can deliver what is presented.
Sure you can. You could stuff Nagash in there, or have all four powers represented at a certain point in the gameplay. Alternatively Empire could get a Ulric or Sigmar avatar and the Dwarfs get a Fire stunty God as end game material. The floodgates of insanity should be open when Archeon well arrives. Could be good for replayability if all you worked for is washed away more or less, you want to try doing it in another way next time.
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0 · Disagree AgreeWhat end game challenge do you have as the Huns in Attila ? None, only the challenge of being a Horde. Still Attila is the end games challenge there. It's the same tihng really.
Btw do you guys remember how the Huns weren't announced as a playable faction until very late ? I wonder what else they had planned alternatively.
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0 · Disagree Agreebut that was just my take.
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0 · Disagree AgreeGranted Attila and his Hunnic swarms are the end game threat in Total War: Attila, but if you play as the Huns it basically removes that and as such in my opinion makes playing as them a lackluster experience. What challenge is there if the end game threat has been totally nullified. I feel that offering a Chaos faction to play while having the threat still real, as the Daemons/Gods solves both of those issues (to an extent).
They also stated that all factions would have a unique play style and while I don't think that the Chaos Warriors being the total of the invasion is unique at all, since it would just be continue on as usual with your current funds/forces (as in Total War:Attila), being part of the invasion potentially could provide a unique play through. My speculation is that since the warriors are basically always trying to prove themselves worthy of the Chaos Gods, maybe your play through is to spread their influence through objectives and missions and be judged worthy when the invasion hits. If you are you join the Invasion as the vanguard, if you aren't you are culled just like the rest for being weak.
In regards to extra work being needed to put Daemons (and such) into the first game, this is true. However if their grand plan for this story driven game was for the invasion to be the pinnacle of all playthroughs, it is not unreasonable for them to create that force with the time they have since it would be a defining point of the game. I also find it hard to believe that they would base their entire story concept in the cinematic trailer for this first game around Chaos corruption and Tzeentch when they weren't in the game to any large degree.
Obviously this is all my opinion and speculative thought, but I think there will be a Daemon presence in the game, but unplayable and a potential threat to all, Chaos Warriors included. At least I think that would be a much better scenario then the Warriors having a replicated Hunnic experience. But it looks like we might have to agree to disagree Dalakh, which is fine with me
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0 · Disagree AgreeThere will be no Chaos invasion that is invading chaos lands. You either are invaded by Chaos or you are Chaos.
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0 · Disagree AgreeEither way, absolutely agree. You thought there was complaining about WoC preorder/dlc? Just wait till the Skaven fanatics see their favorite faction be preorder/dlc for the second title.
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0 · Disagree AgreeIt's only the giant blue persian bird daemon in the end that's not been revealed yet. Everything else seems to be there; units, heroes and settings etc etc. Either it's a miss or something yet to be revealed.
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