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Adressing the issue with Demigryph Knights

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  • TheSaltySeagullsTheSaltySeagulls Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 184
    salsicha said:

    Demigryphs are definitely overpowered. Most units in the game make some kind of compromise: Giants have tons of HP and damage but no armor, etc.... Demigryphs make no compromises in their design, Bjuna doesn't work against them because they have too few models. Light infantry doesn't because they have small models, cause terror, and have 120 armor. Heavy cav doesn't challenge them because they are fast, armored, and have armor piercing. For factions with weak missile units, Demigryphs do not have a counter. Your only hope is to just grind them down and hope your army doesn't break from terror first.

    If you had to pick between units like Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres and Demigryphs, no one in their right mind would pick Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres, in any scenario. Demigryphs are just better in every way, while costing the same or less. That is the definition of overpowered. That is simply what it means. If you don't agree why don't you go to the thread about how weak Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres are and try telling everyone that they are wrong, that Dragon Ogres are actually well balanced and are better than Demigryphs because they cost more. Please do that so we all can have a nice big laugh in your face.

    DGKs only cause fear, its the RoR version that has terror. Also this is a year old thread that got necroed so it should be ignored mostly as the opinions and information in it are severely out of date.
  • salsichasalsicha Registered Users Posts: 3,572

    salsicha said:

    Demigryphs are definitely overpowered. Most units in the game make some kind of compromise: Giants have tons of HP and damage but no armor, etc.... Demigryphs make no compromises in their design, Bjuna doesn't work against them because they have too few models. Light infantry doesn't because they have small models, cause terror, and have 120 armor. Heavy cav doesn't challenge them because they are fast, armored, and have armor piercing. For factions with weak missile units, Demigryphs do not have a counter. Your only hope is to just grind them down and hope your army doesn't break from terror first.

    If you had to pick between units like Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres and Demigryphs, no one in their right mind would pick Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres, in any scenario. Demigryphs are just better in every way, while costing the same or less. That is the definition of overpowered. That is simply what it means. If you don't agree why don't you go to the thread about how weak Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres are and try telling everyone that they are wrong, that Dragon Ogres are actually well balanced and are better than Demigryphs because they cost more. Please do that so we all can have a nice big laugh in your face.

    DGKs only cause fear, its the RoR version that has terror. Also this is a year old thread that got necroed so it should be ignored mostly as the opinions and information in it are severely out of date.
    Out of date? So GW Minotaurs are better than Halberd Demigryphs now?
  • eumaieseumaies Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 8,340

    Hmmm. People are focusing very much on what Demigryphs are good at, without focusing at what they're bad at. They're very easy to bog down with cheap infantry, and although they can kill just about any unit well, they do not do it terribly quickly.

    They're also vulnerable to artillery fire and some spells.

    If the opponent takes a lot of them, you can tire them out with cheap stuff too, before killing them.

    Agree with all this. Demigryphs are not OP for their price.


  • TheSaltySeagullsTheSaltySeagulls Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 184
    salsicha said:

    salsicha said:

    Demigryphs are definitely overpowered. Most units in the game make some kind of compromise: Giants have tons of HP and damage but no armor, etc.... Demigryphs make no compromises in their design, Bjuna doesn't work against them because they have too few models. Light infantry doesn't because they have small models, cause terror, and have 120 armor. Heavy cav doesn't challenge them because they are fast, armored, and have armor piercing. For factions with weak missile units, Demigryphs do not have a counter. Your only hope is to just grind them down and hope your army doesn't break from terror first.

    If you had to pick between units like Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres and Demigryphs, no one in their right mind would pick Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres, in any scenario. Demigryphs are just better in every way, while costing the same or less. That is the definition of overpowered. That is simply what it means. If you don't agree why don't you go to the thread about how weak Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres are and try telling everyone that they are wrong, that Dragon Ogres are actually well balanced and are better than Demigryphs because they cost more. Please do that so we all can have a nice big laugh in your face.

    DGKs only cause fear, its the RoR version that has terror. Also this is a year old thread that got necroed so it should be ignored mostly as the opinions and information in it are severely out of date.
    Out of date? So GW Minotaurs are better than Halberd Demigryphs now?
    Yes out of date. This thread was originally about the day one version of DGKs before literally any balance patches had occurred in the game. If you wanna talk about comparisons between minotaurs and DGKs or any other units then post about it in the thread that you linked. This way people dont have to shift through 4 1/2 pages of year old post that dont even hold true anymore before they to get to any relevant discussion about the current state of the game.
  • PrayPray Registered Users Posts: 1,508
    plz no , nerf them again they will be just Centigor or Boar boy big un and Empire will don't have anything to fight with another faction .

    :'(
  • HolySaintKnightHolySaintKnight Registered Users Posts: 4,448

    salsicha said:

    salsicha said:

    Demigryphs are definitely overpowered. Most units in the game make some kind of compromise: Giants have tons of HP and damage but no armor, etc.... Demigryphs make no compromises in their design, Bjuna doesn't work against them because they have too few models. Light infantry doesn't because they have small models, cause terror, and have 120 armor. Heavy cav doesn't challenge them because they are fast, armored, and have armor piercing. For factions with weak missile units, Demigryphs do not have a counter. Your only hope is to just grind them down and hope your army doesn't break from terror first.

    If you had to pick between units like Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres and Demigryphs, no one in their right mind would pick Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres, in any scenario. Demigryphs are just better in every way, while costing the same or less. That is the definition of overpowered. That is simply what it means. If you don't agree why don't you go to the thread about how weak Minotaurs or Dragon Ogres are and try telling everyone that they are wrong, that Dragon Ogres are actually well balanced and are better than Demigryphs because they cost more. Please do that so we all can have a nice big laugh in your face.

    DGKs only cause fear, its the RoR version that has terror. Also this is a year old thread that got necroed so it should be ignored mostly as the opinions and information in it are severely out of date.
    Out of date? So GW Minotaurs are better than Halberd Demigryphs now?
    Yes out of date. This thread was originally about the day one version of DGKs before literally any balance patches had occurred in the game. If you wanna talk about comparisons between minotaurs and DGKs or any other units then post about it in the thread that you linked. This way people dont have to shift through 4 1/2 pages of year old post that dont even hold true anymore before they to get to any relevant discussion about the current state of the game.
    Well said.
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