Who decided to shaft the wood elves?
They are supposed to be some of the best archers in the warhammer fantasy world.
Centuries honing their craft and skill.... wood elf bowmen, feared across the land for their range, their accuracy and ability to hold their own in melee....
I will always be a wood elf player, and i feel a bit salty,
The archers and the paper eagles man... ****...
I spat the dummy when my expensive scout elves got out ranged by dwarf xbows... whilst being hammered by artillery.... where is my answer to artllery? i got 3 sniper lords and the damage they did to artillery was PATHETIC. The elves look pretty.
We always did have a problem with artillery.
We have to have range on the bows to force people to come to us.
If our range and damage is LESS or equal to artillery players supporting xbows / guns then they just sit there and blast us. So we charge with overpriced cav and get slaughtered by spearmen and their heavier cav.
Also wood elf archers used to be ok in combat, not great but good enough to hold the line... not get CRUSHED.
Then there is the treekin, they just seem so pathetic, all of the units just fall over in combat, and its not that easy to avoid getting into combat.
The forest dragon just seems a bit weak and underpowered / expensive. How about a acid steam flame breath attack to set fire to things.
The big tree guys are cool but dont do any damage so the enemy just ignores them and kills everything else. They are so slow they spend most of the time wandering about being avoided.
Finally since when did wood elves break so easily? i can accept wood elves getting minced up but not running and getting wiped out. Most of my battles so far my big tree dude is on full health and its game over cos off all the breaking. He is like wtf guys? and can he boost morale? can he bleep. encourage only works if he can get to the fight in time before all the elves are dead or run away. Where are my musicians? where are my magical standards....
Fighting vampires was just an awful experience.
Fighting chaos I have to rely on lame air. I tried to design an army i could have fun with vs chaos . A cinematic army that would look cool and fight the fair fight and then i though well what the f do i do about artillery? it basically forces me to go mass air... which cannot be fun for the opponent.
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0 · Disagree Agreebut you shouldnt win a ranged duel vs dwarves.
dwarves are (or should be) the kings missile duels.
they can be worse shooters.but,you know.
armor and shields come for free.
aaaaaand gunpowder.
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2 · Disagree Agree"I am the harbinger of your demise. I am the nightmare in all mortals. I am the thing you fear the most. I am death..."
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0 · Disagree Agreewith all factions.
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0 · Disagree Agreeto this.....
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0 · Disagree AgreeIt seems every body is playing the wood elves in TW with 80% range and hope they can just kite all day to win, that seems pretty dull for gameplay. When I played the mini campaign I used a 60/40 split.
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0 · Disagree AgreeI have played 2 games of Very Hard grand campaign as Wood Elves now, the first one largely unmodded and the 2nd one with no regional occupation and Lokerian's Better AI - the 2nd game was really enjoyable as every faction was so aggressive and each of the "main factions" were dominating (including Karak Drak, with 18 settlements... first time I have ever encountered them with a faction besides Chaos "alive"). Wood Elves allies also got me into wars with both Empire and Dwarves, go figure.
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0 · Disagree AgreeWhere is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!
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Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
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0 · Disagree AgreeAt this point we are looking at the basic, fundamental concepts being completely borked. I mean what is this a movie tie-in made by some shovelware co.? CA should be humiliated for outputting content in such a state.
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1 · Disagree AgreeBEST ARCHERS doesnt MATTER if you are getting turned into a pin cushion by superior numbers that just have to hit GOOD ENOUGH... QUantity has a Quality of its own... 5 well trained snipers irl also would most likely stand no chance on open field without using their strengths VS 15 guys that are trained just enough...
these "irregular peasents" are based on english longbow men and just as them are training since years with their longbows...
what do some people here expect? That they all play Legolas?
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Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
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2 · Disagree Agreeit doesnt matter how elite somebody... the best warrior can get killed by a bunch of far "worse" fighters if he decides to fight under, for him disadvantageous circumstances...
Quantity has a Quality of it's own
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Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
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0 · Disagree AgreeIts clear that they aren't too impressive as are. But the why is probably more interesting. I suspect the designers felt that the game might be out of balance if they were?
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1 · Disagree Agreeand the Bretonians don't have to hit perfectly... they just have to hit good enough... nice for the elves if they can perfectly hit the eyes of the peasents or their hearts... for the peasent it's enough to hit them in the chest...
also one could also argue that the peasent bow men, crossbow men of the empire and even the crossbowmen of the dwarfes don't outnumber the elven Archers enough...
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Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
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0 · Disagree AgreeAlso all wood elves archer had amor piercing. Some more other less.
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3 · Disagree AgreeWood elves more or less cannot compete in any category, except speed (which isn't such a big advantage). If you're a skilled player of course you will succeed nonetheless with them. But in the end they are weaker than other races: bad economy, amber restrictions, no armour, no war machines/artillery, nowhere to expand except athel loren, medium archers, weak melee, useless birds, no walls,...
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