Hey,
I've been playing the mini campaign +75 turns single and a co-op campaign for +150 turns with Orion and the Welves.
I've found him to be somewhat squishy and sometimes unsure of his melee fight animations since it seems that he is always throwing his damned spears no matter if I unselect auto ranged attacks or using the melee attack command.
Just unsure when he is "meleeing" and not poking silly lookingly with the spear, I find his best ability that his javelins/spears knockdown smaller heroes/legends.
Is he meant as a infantry counter and unit buffer only or also useful against enemy heroes/lords?
Thus the point is this: How do I use him most efficiently?
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0 · Disagree AgreeBy the way, in total war, how do you select melee attack for a hybrid character like Orion or the Glade Lord?
when playing table top wood elves, we rarely used special characters. When we did use special characters, I generally treated Orion as the leader of my melee forces. My archers would shoot at the enemy coming across the board, and Orion and friends would fight the first enemies to make it across the battle field.
From a melee perspective, I would view Orion as a melee damage dealer. He is not a durable anvil such as a Treeman though. Instead, use Orion to kill things while the treeman pins things. Both cause terror. The treeman has the armor that Orion lacks, and Orion can penetrate armor unlike the treeman.
His speed is such that he can outrun any infantry in the game. He does do more melee damage than missile damage, but his missile weapon does enough damage that you could be happy with him not going into melee until the enemy is about to break.
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0 · Disagree AgreeAs for Orion, I usually keep him back as a spellcaster; the rest of his skills are blue campaign buffs as well as red battle mode army-wide benefits. I never found him effective in personal combat, so I end up just doing that.
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1 · Disagree AgreeAny idea how he fares against the stronger cavalry in game like Demigryphs and Blood Knights?
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0 · Disagree AgreeThen again every single heroes lore tends to make them sound like they're the Achilles of WH world.
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0 · Disagree AgreeBut can he get even close to the level of Grimgor or the Slayer King?
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0 · Disagree AgreeWhen he's leveled up a bit, around 20+ or so I put him on the frontlines, spamming his abilities and spearing enemy lords/heroes or monsters during their advance. He does knock people back which is very useful. I put him in many duels and so far he is undefeated. Though i do advice equipping him properly. Give him a healing potion or include a mage that can heal him in case you have to fight like kholek or something.
In my campaign he has way over 7k HP, 20-25% melee and ranged resistance and he's unbreakable. What's not to like?
I treat him as what he is, a hybrid.
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0 · Disagree AgreeMostly it's against my pal's who I play versus sometimes who aren't dum dum's like the AI.
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0 · Disagree AgreeAuferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name Empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace.
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges.
The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government.
I found Rome a city of filth covered marble and left it a pile of rubble. - Me
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0 · Disagree AgreeNo. Less is more.
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0 · Disagree AgreeThat the elves envy their mud digging muscles? Or that a merry band of peasants once held singlehandedly a waaghhh in check at some pass?
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0 · Disagree AgreeI've seen no point in going the blue route. You can obtain insane regeneration rates without it, and lightning strike is relatively useless when you can kill enemies so efficiently. Invisible vanguard deployed units take care of siege weaponry, initiate combat safely, and draw armies in before they join up with reinforcements. I've taken four full but partially damaged Orc armies without any lost regiments, and melted two high level VC stacks with most units over 80%, I'm not even using Treemen, just one dragon as my solitary amber unit.
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0 · Disagree AgreeOh, by the way, getting that armor upgrade on him was probably the point where he started wrecking everything.
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