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I feel like Warhammer is hijacking Total War

EmperorOfRomeEmperorOfRome Senior MemberPosts: 590Registered Users
I am no fan of Warhammer, but if you are, okay. I am still skeptical about the way Total War is heading: I feel like it is going more and more to profit instead of working on the niche it has, and that it is trying to broaden its fanbase to much, but that asides as it is a personal opinion. They said they have two teams working: one warhammer, one historical. However, it seems like Warhammer is hijacking Total War, as they put way more time and personnel into Warhammer.

A quote I found from CA was this:
"The sequel is now in full production, with the majority of CA staff on Total War working through the huge content plan for the second part of the trilogy."

"...majority....". I understand that it was planned, but if Warhammer keeps on so succesful I am afraid they will keep busy with Warhammer. They released a Warhammer game now, when will the following? And then, will there be another Warhammer trilogy because it was so massively succesful, to fill up the "massive and rich" lore of Warhammer? Total War is inviting hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Warhammer fans into the Franchise. Profitable wise, that is a smart move, but it will make any choices concerning the smaller and smaller growing "historical" fanbase less prioritising. Seeing that CA already acknowledged that the majority of their team works on Warhammer (while we, historical fans, have to hear the mantra that there is a supposed equal two teams working on warhammer and history), and that a next Warhammer game has been released not one year off the previous Warhammer, will the loyal history fan not be neglected in the future? That is worrying me.
Pro gloria Imperi!

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  • jpkaratacusjpkaratacus Posts: 1Registered Users
    As a fellow fan of the historical titles I share your concerns about the direction CA going in. CA is going to work on whatever is going to make the most money. Unfortunately fantasy sells better than history. I think we will still get historical titles in the future but CA's focus will be on Warhammer until that stops selling.
  • EmperorOfRomeEmperorOfRome Senior Member Posts: 590Registered Users
    Indeed the focus shifting is what concerns me. If Warhammer is truly so rich in lore, I wouldn't suprise if CA would make another trilogy of Warhammer to appeal to the many Warhammer fans. Since the Warhammer fans seem to be in large numbers, this could shifts CA policy much. Saying that both historical and fantasy have teams working on is too shortly said.
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  • campbellj1978campbellj1978 Posts: 2Registered Users
    edited April 2
    The focus shifted from retreads of prior games, Rome II, Shogun II , to a setting that forced them to come up with new ideas.

    The horror....

    Now I liked Shogun II, I despised Rome II and Attila became the first Total War game I did not and will not purchase.
    That is from Shogun in 2000, Mongol Invasion expansion ,Medieval, ( still the best TW game imo) Viking expansion, Rome ( one of my least favorites) Barbarian expansion, etc,etc...

    I was excited to play Total War again because being a Warhammer fan prior, this was a great union of licenses.
    I hope I will be just as excited for the next historical TW game.

    And I won't complain when it is another eurocentric TW game, when I have wanted the warring states in China for FOREVER..
  • ThanquolThanquol Senior Member SkavenblightPosts: 1,902Registered Users
    15 years of Historical games. All is good.

    3 years of warhammer titles while they prepare a new engine + historical title. THE END IS NIGH!!!

    I really think CA doing these fantasy titles has and will continue to be very good for the franchise as a whole. The zany nature of some of the units combined with an engine at the end of its lifespan has resulted in CA being more experimental and imaginative than they have ever been in what I feel has been along time.


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  • CogreCogre Senior Member Posts: 1,949Registered Users
    Plus if I read some of the copy right some Warhammer units are airborn. Let them work out the mechanics of that and give me my total war world War 2
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  • cool_ladcool_lad Senior Member IndiaPosts: 801Registered Users
    I think that it's important to keep this in mind when talking about historical titles being overlooked.

    https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/192834/what-the-teams-are-working-on-17-03-2017/p1
    Our next major historical release is now in full production with the game design locked and asset creation fully underway. The game retains the same strong focus on character design that infused previous major releases, with the key personalities of the period in particular being an early priority for us now; as such there are some vibrant and striking renders plastered around the studio, with eye-catching combat animations garnering some serious attention too.
    Which means that they're already working on their historical title, which has its own team.

    That said, I'm happy that CA seems to be stepping away from the annualised release schedule as this generally means better more polished games with less bugs. Plus, the innovations and lessons from warhammer titles will also be used in the historical title making them richer experiences overall.
  • Rath_DarkbladeRath_Darkblade Senior Member Posts: 1,956Registered Users
    I feel like Warhammer rants are hijacking this forum. How about rants that have nothing to do with TW, eh? TW isn't the entire world, y'know. ;-P

    *ducks the rotten eggs and fruit and shouts of "BLASPHEMER!" and "HERETIC!"* ;-P
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  • CogreCogre Senior Member Posts: 1,949Registered Users
    *Chucks a random rotten egg for the sake of anarchy*
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  • AlJabberwockAlJabberwock Moderator USAPosts: 7,549Moderators, Tech Moderators, Knights
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  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USAPosts: 11,730Registered Users, Moderators, Knights
    edited April 16
    Hmmmmmm!

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  • KGpoopyKGpoopy Posts: 952Registered Users
    I don't know why, but I feel like the historical title will be way more grand and in depth as a total war game than this series.
  • Pro_YankeePro_Yankee Posts: 7Registered Users
    Successful or not, CA and SEGA signed a contract to make these THREE games under the Warhammer license and they are honoring their contract.
    Also it's just three games. Calm down. It's not like they will stop making Histoical games ffs.
  • The_One_Man_ClanThe_One_Man_Clan Posts: 4Registered Users
    I don't even like Warhammer ): would could they have not gotten the Lord of the rings or Witcher licences :D guess i need to wait for this next historical title that's coming out some point
  • CogreCogre Senior Member Posts: 1,949Registered Users
    I thought it was gonna be Warhammer 40k when it was first announced.

    Still holding out hope for some space marines
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