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  • ChaosDragonBornChaosDragonBorn Registered Users Posts: 1,487
    Guys don't just look at the visuals of the teaser, but listen to the audio. The music is Nordic chanting. The growl is clearly some kind of beast.

    Also regarding visuals, people are saying Norscan's don't have arrows. I beg to differ lol. And why don't they have arrows?
  • SiWISiWI Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 10,865


    Also regarding visuals, people are saying Norscan's don't have arrows. I beg to differ lol. And why don't they have arrows?

    that probably comes from the fact that the WoC don't have them.
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  • ShermanSherman Member Registered Users Posts: 882

    No more mini campaign it's ok, all the money will be used for LL and units? Sad that can't be used for naval battles.
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  • JungleElfJungleElf Registered Users Posts: 967
    edited July 2017
    Sherman said:


    No more mini campaign it's ok, all the money will be used for LL and units? Sad that can't be used for naval battles.

    EVERY faction would need an unique set of ships, EVERY faction would need balancing, new soundtracks, maps, animations...

    You would almost need the budget, time and personel for a whole other game.
  • DEM0N_LLAMADEM0N_LLAMA Registered Users Posts: 567
    HoneyBun said:

    JungleElf said:

    Sherman said:


    No more mini campaign it's ok, all the money will be used for LL and units? Sad that can't be used for naval battles.

    EVERY faction would need an unique set of ships, EVERY faction would need balancing, new soundtracks, maps, animations...

    You would almost need the budget, time and personel for a whole other game.
    Such as Game 3 - which currently has barely any armies in it
    Chaos Dwarfs, Orge Kingdoms, Daemons of Chaos and maybe Kislev.
  • JungleElfJungleElf Registered Users Posts: 967
    HoneyBun said:

    JungleElf said:

    Sherman said:


    No more mini campaign it's ok, all the money will be used for LL and units? Sad that can't be used for naval battles.

    EVERY faction would need an unique set of ships, EVERY faction would need balancing, new soundtracks, maps, animations...

    You would almost need the budget, time and personel for a whole other game.
    Such as Game 3 - which currently has barely any armies in it
    We have no idea yet how they're going to handle the demons. Maybe a roster for each God of Chaos? We just don't know.
  • SeldkamSeldkam Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 4,342
    Aryvian said:

    "What we’ve done is take on board the criticism of our earlier DLCs, and Chaos Warriors in particular. The early-adopter Race Pack that we’ll reveal this week will be more along the lines of the content in Bretonnia than Chaos Warriors. So, legendary lords with unique start positions/factions, lots of new units, plus unique, flavourful and strongly differentiated Race mechanics. All of which is designed to increase the replayability and distinctiveness of the new Race.

     Putting a load more in makes it more costly to make of course."


    Their way of saying/justifying that we will have to pay extra for the fourth race (Skaven)?

    Someone watches Arch Warhammer. Seriously, he doesn't do research in the slightest and he's honestly borderline paranoid for no reason.
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  • DolorousEddDolorousEdd Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 555
    Seldkam said:

    Aryvian said:

    "What we’ve done is take on board the criticism of our earlier DLCs, and Chaos Warriors in particular. The early-adopter Race Pack that we’ll reveal this week will be more along the lines of the content in Bretonnia than Chaos Warriors. So, legendary lords with unique start positions/factions, lots of new units, plus unique, flavourful and strongly differentiated Race mechanics. All of which is designed to increase the replayability and distinctiveness of the new Race.

     Putting a load more in makes it more costly to make of course."


    Their way of saying/justifying that we will have to pay extra for the fourth race (Skaven)?

    Someone watches Arch Warhammer. Seriously, he doesn't do research in the slightest and he's honestly borderline paranoid for no reason.
    I mostly like the guy, but sometimes he sounds like a whiny bitch. It's kind of annoying. Still a good fellow, though...
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  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 11,158

    Seldkam said:

    Aryvian said:

    "What we’ve done is take on board the criticism of our earlier DLCs, and Chaos Warriors in particular. The early-adopter Race Pack that we’ll reveal this week will be more along the lines of the content in Bretonnia than Chaos Warriors. So, legendary lords with unique start positions/factions, lots of new units, plus unique, flavourful and strongly differentiated Race mechanics. All of which is designed to increase the replayability and distinctiveness of the new Race.

     Putting a load more in makes it more costly to make of course."


    Their way of saying/justifying that we will have to pay extra for the fourth race (Skaven)?

    Someone watches Arch Warhammer. Seriously, he doesn't do research in the slightest and he's honestly borderline paranoid for no reason.
    I mostly like the guy, but sometimes he sounds like a whiny bitch. It's kind of annoying. Still a good fellow, though...
    if you have a knack for cynism, irony and sarcasm... which i do... though yeah, there are moments where I think: "Eh.."
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  • UchihaGUchihaG Registered Users Posts: 363
    JungleElf said:

    HoneyBun said:

    JungleElf said:

    Sherman said:


    No more mini campaign it's ok, all the money will be used for LL and units? Sad that can't be used for naval battles.

    EVERY faction would need an unique set of ships, EVERY faction would need balancing, new soundtracks, maps, animations...

    You would almost need the budget, time and personel for a whole other game.
    Such as Game 3 - which currently has barely any armies in it
    We have no idea yet how they're going to handle the demons. Maybe a roster for each God of Chaos? We just don't know.
    I suppose they could add a "race" Daemons of Chaos with the base units they share and then subdivide the "race" into 4 different subfactions with different Legendary Lords for each Chaos god and each subfaction could then include the unique units of each Chaos god.
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  • LuciferLucifer Member England U.KRegistered Users Posts: 1,864
    Would be real nice to see the mini campaigns and the LL's, and everyone will be happy.


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  • Horus168Horus168 Registered Users Posts: 578
    Great news, hopefully this means all twwh 1 & 2 races will get to 4 lls over the course of the game 2 dlc/flc cycle then....
  • MrMecHMrMecH Registered Users Posts: 2,279
    Horus168 said:

    Great news, hopefully this means all twwh 1 & 2 races will get to 4 lls over the course of the game 2 dlc/flc cycle then....

    If CA want balancing then all races should have at least 4 LL.
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  • BigD2016BigD2016 Registered Users Posts: 166

    Seldkam said:

    Aryvian said:

    "What we’ve done is take on board the criticism of our earlier DLCs, and Chaos Warriors in particular. The early-adopter Race Pack that we’ll reveal this week will be more along the lines of the content in Bretonnia than Chaos Warriors. So, legendary lords with unique start positions/factions, lots of new units, plus unique, flavourful and strongly differentiated Race mechanics. All of which is designed to increase the replayability and distinctiveness of the new Race.

     Putting a load more in makes it more costly to make of course."


    Their way of saying/justifying that we will have to pay extra for the fourth race (Skaven)?

    Someone watches Arch Warhammer. Seriously, he doesn't do research in the slightest and he's honestly borderline paranoid for no reason.
    I mostly like the guy, but sometimes he sounds like a whiny bitch. It's kind of annoying. Still a good fellow, though...
    I used to watch him because he could be kinda funny sometimes with his weird analogies and sarcasm, but eventually his pesimissim and constant paranoia about CA wanting to screw people over kinda started to annoy me.

    Then I discovered the glorious god of lore videos that is the inept general
  • CanuoveaCanuovea Registered Users, Moderators Posts: 13,871
    The thing that disappointed me with the minicampaigns is that they were basically one race only.

    So I'll take this over the minicampaigns if that is what we were going to get.
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  • rad13rad13 Member Registered Users Posts: 630
    Lucifer said:

    Would be real nice to see the mini campaigns and the LL's, and everyone will be happy.

    during the e3 coverage they kind of hinted at where their thinking is wrt mini campaigns. and i think we can see that being put into action with the historic 'saga' idea.

    pending ongoing commercial success etc, i think that we'll see mini campaigns or sagas for TWW after game 3 is launched and their planned game 3 dlc is done.

    they'll have a huge map, all the races and most LLs from the lore. they could then do mini campaigns - like the history sagas - that focus on a particular event or story within the whole warhammer lore
  • NemoxNemox Registered Users Posts: 2,872
    I don't mind smaller campaigns - but I think being done after they have finished the trilogy affords a much more interesting narrative and balance. The 2 mini campaigns we have feel like an obligation rather than a selling feature.

    So having more content for the races just seems like a no-brainer now that we have tasted what the min-campaigns are currently like.
  • Commissar_GCommissar_G Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 10,508
    Lucifer said:

    Would be real nice to see the mini campaigns and the LL's, and everyone will be happy.

    Except for the $35 pricetag which would turn everyone into raging balls of hatred and salt.
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  • FireAbendFireAbend Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 15
    Great news! Everytime i think about starting one of the minicampaigns i end up on the bigcampaign map. :)
    To get more startpositions and better rosters is awesome.
  • JungleElfJungleElf Registered Users Posts: 967

    Lucifer said:

    Would be real nice to see the mini campaigns and the LL's, and everyone will be happy.

    Except for the $35 pricetag which would turn everyone into raging balls of hatred and salt.
    That's hyperbolic, it will probably stay in the same price category.
  • Commissar_GCommissar_G Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 10,508
    JungleElf said:

    Lucifer said:

    Would be real nice to see the mini campaigns and the LL's, and everyone will be happy.

    Except for the $35 pricetag which would turn everyone into raging balls of hatred and salt.
    That's hyperbolic, it will probably stay in the same price category.
    If we got 4 LL, 4 sub-factions and a mini campaign? Keep dreaming.
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  • JungleElfJungleElf Registered Users Posts: 967

    JungleElf said:

    Lucifer said:

    Would be real nice to see the mini campaigns and the LL's, and everyone will be happy.

    Except for the $35 pricetag which would turn everyone into raging balls of hatred and salt.
    That's hyperbolic, it will probably stay in the same price category.
    If we got 4 LL, 4 sub-factions and a mini campaign? Keep dreaming.
    My apologies, thought you meant excluding the minicampaign.
  • FrigMannaiaFrigMannaia Fagnano Olona, ItalyRegistered Users Posts: 319
    JungleElf said:

    Lucifer said:

    Would be real nice to see the mini campaigns and the LL's, and everyone will be happy.

    Except for the $35 pricetag which would turn everyone into raging balls of hatred and salt.
    That's hyperbolic, it will probably stay in the same price category.
    Maybe not 35$/€, but it could settle on a 20-25 $/€ price range. Multiply it x2, add the RoRs DLCs and you'll probably start seeing a lot of flaming torches in the distance going towards CA's HQ.
  • FrigMannaiaFrigMannaia Fagnano Olona, ItalyRegistered Users Posts: 319
    Anyway, as soon as i finished writing my last comment i thought: wait. What kind of DLC are we going to see then (after the first one CA's talking about in the Blog)?

    Options:
    1) race pack without minicampaign but with 4 LLs instead than 2;
    2) race pack without minicampaign with standard 2 LLs;
    (followed by a)
    3) DLC a la "Grim and the Grave/King and the Warlord" with 4 LLs instead than 2.

    ?

    And how will this reflect on the DLC prices?

  • obippoobippo Member Registered Users Posts: 2,259
    edited July 2017

    JungleElf said:

    Lucifer said:

    Would be real nice to see the mini campaigns and the LL's, and everyone will be happy.

    Except for the $35 pricetag which would turn everyone into raging balls of hatred and salt.
    That's hyperbolic, it will probably stay in the same price category.
    Maybe not 35$/€, but it could settle on a 20-25 $/€ price range. Multiply it x2, add the RoRs DLCs and you'll probably start seeing a lot of flaming torches in the distance going towards CA's HQ.
    I'm totally willing to pay that for a full roster race DLC with 4 lords, tbh
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  • JungleElfJungleElf Registered Users Posts: 967
    edited July 2017

    Anyway, as soon as i finished writing my last comment i thought: wait. What kind of DLC are we going to see then (after the first one CA's talking about in the Blog)?

    Options:
    1) race pack without minicampaign but with 4 LLs instead than 2;
    2) race pack without minicampaign with standard 2 LLs;
    (followed by a)
    3) DLC a la "Grim and the Grave/King and the Warlord" with 4 LLs instead than 2.

    ?

    And how will this reflect on the DLC prices?

    Read carefully, they're only talking about the race packs in that paragraph.
  • FrigMannaiaFrigMannaia Fagnano Olona, ItalyRegistered Users Posts: 319
    JungleElf said:



    Read carefully, they're only talking about the race packs in that paragraph.

    Yup you're right, thank you for the correction! ;)

    The last question still stands though. I wonder how 4LLs instead of a minicampaign will reflect on the Pack price.
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  • IcestrugleIcestrugle Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 1,214
    HoneyBun said:

    Personally I do not think I agree with CA.

    I don't think that two extra LLs equals a mini campaign. To my mind creating a mini campaign involved far more work than creating 2 LLs.

    So even though I agree DLC faction packs without mini campaigns will sell better, there is in my view less content. So it should cost less.

    They said more units than usual. Maybe full tomb kings at release. I think is more ok for everyone because people complaining about having more legendary lords and missing units ( poor beastman) and so less backlash for CA, and now they should't add extra work for flc for dlc because now they are in the budget.
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