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Summary of widely accepted, asked and very often raised balance changes.

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  • DandalusXVIIDandalusXVII Registered Users Posts: 4,384
    edited August 2017
    @cool_lad Warhammer tt is meant to be that way, it also has many win conditions so it's balanced due to different objectives a faction must do to achieve points for winning score. I suggest these winning objectives should be applied to TWW for declaring winner in mp battles not just having to kill all enemy forces. Like capture certain areas which give points at the end of battle, kills made analogue to models of your army etc, this way we get over the draw obstacle which atm is terrible how it happens.
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  • TennisgolfbollTennisgolfboll Registered Users Posts: 9,041
    Not a good list at all
    It needs to be pointed out that what people call "cheese" is just playing the game the way it actually exists not in some fictional way they think it is supposed to work.
  • FerrousTarkusFerrousTarkus Registered Users Posts: 525

    @cool_lad Warhammer tt is meant to be that way, it also has many win conditions so it's balanced due to different objectives a faction must do to achieve points for winning score. I suggest these winning objectives should be applied to TWW for declaring winner in mp battles not just having to kill all enemy forces. Like capture certain areas which give points at the end of battle, kills made analogue to models of your army etc, this way we get over the draw obstacle which atm is terrible how it happens.

    I did note at the bottom the very common request for a mechanic to counter draw kiting, to me this falls into the same category.

    Not a good list at all

    Your abysmal input will be duly ignored. Feel free to elaborate if you have arguments.
  • DandalusXVIIDandalusXVII Registered Users Posts: 4,384
    @FerrousTarkus Well said & agree in general.
  • Lord_NathanaelLord_Nathanael Registered Users Posts: 1,496
    you should add buff to luminark of hysh (regular and RoR if net gets nerfed)

    reasons stated on the empire balance thread in detail


    feel free to point out my errors, I'd like to improve my english
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 25,094
    edited August 2017

    you should add buff to luminark of hysh (regular and RoR if net gets nerfed)

    reasons stated on the empire balance thread in detail

    The Luminark is strong enough as it is, thank you. What it needs is to stop randomly bugging out and not fire.

  • SeldkamSeldkam Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 4,342
    Only bad thing about luminark is the price (and bugs) I really don't think any tournament player would pick that thing, not would I if I really wanted to win
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  • RiggsenRiggsen Member Registered Users Posts: 2,607
    Migsa took a luminark once in a tourney and sniped the everloving crap out of my VC lord and heroes. Yet I can't remember having lost another game where someone brought one. Its very map dependent in that even the slightest bump in the terrain can screw its targetting. And then even if you're firing on the flat there seems to be a bunch of other RNG at work. They're generallt terrible, but not sure how they could be buffed without them being crazy OP.
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  • eumaieseumaies Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 6,236
    Riggsen said:

    Migsa took a luminark once in a tourney and sniped the everloving crap out of my VC lord and heroes. Yet I can't remember having lost another game where someone brought one. Its very map dependent in that even the slightest bump in the terrain can screw its targetting. And then even if you're firing on the flat there seems to be a bunch of other RNG at work. They're generallt terrible, but not sure how they could be buffed without them being crazy OP.

    Agree. They serve their function as a mini-maxi pick. the one with the net doubles as a mage and is just affordable enough that you won't always lose if you take it and build a creative army around it.
  • LordKaterchenLordKaterchen Registered Users Posts: 62
    I agree with most everything on this list. Very much want to keep this thread alive. I hope Norsca patcn solves most of the issues so we can shorten the list by quite a bit :)
  • Wing ZeroWing Zero Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 827

    I agree with most everything on this list. Very much want to keep this thread alive. I hope Norsca patcn solves most of the issues so we can shorten the list by quite a bit :)

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  • Wing ZeroWing Zero Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 827

    you should add buff to luminark of hysh (regular and RoR if net gets nerfed)

    reasons stated on the empire balance thread in detail

    The Luminark is strong enough as it is, thank you. What it needs is to stop randomly bugging out and not fire.
    Its the same issue with dwarf engineer, its the same line of sight issue.
    ''The difficulty of tactical maneuvering consists in turning the devious into the direct, and misfortune into gain.
    -Sun Tzu

    "Tolerance, Diversity, Strength"
    - Seleucid

    Team Chaos Dwarf
  • FerrousTarkusFerrousTarkus Registered Users Posts: 525
    edited August 2017
    I need to add a couple of things that you guys are totally right about. Luminark and with hunter LOS issues come to mind.

    But I will make a new thread once tomorrow patch hit the deck. Some of the asked buff/nerf/price adjustment have been answered so there is stuff that need to be removed as well; notably the minos price decrease and the crypt horror price increase. But yeah there are hidden changes and what not sooooo...

    One thing that I will add is decent, unfragmented patch notes. :neutral:
  • KhorneFlakesKhorneFlakes Registered Users Posts: 3,373

    I need to add a couple of things that you guys are totally right about. Luminark and with hunter LOS issues come to mind.

    But I will make a new thread once tomorrow patch hit the deck. Some of the asked buff/nerf/price adjustment have been answered so there is stuff that need to be removed as well; notably the minos price decrease and the crypt horror price increase. But yeah there are hidden changes and what not sooooo...

    One thing that I will add is decent, unfragmented patch notes. :neutral:

    duck said the ones mentioned in patches are inteneded changes,so everything else we can assume is database error

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