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Norse Dwarfs and Dragons

NielspeterdejongNielspeterdejong Registered Users Posts: 306
edited August 2017 in General Discussion
Hello everyone,

I'm a big fan of the Dwarfs in Warhammer, and the way that CA has handled them. And after seeing CA put so much amazing effort into the minor faction that is Norsca, I had hope that they might not only work one day on the Amazonians and Kislev, but the Norse Dwarfs as well!

That brings me to my question though, why is Kraka Drak called the Dragon's Hold? And is there a chance that they might have a bond with dragons?

I loved how in the lore the Norse dwarfs were once close to the Norscans, before Chaos spread. And while some say that all the Dragons in the north became Chaos Dwarfs, wouldn't there be a chance that some fled, and sought shelter behind the magic wards of the Norse Dwarfs?

If so, then I would love to see a faction that lacks gunpowder and helicopters, but instead relies on rune magic as well as Dragons!

Perhaps their roster could consist out slightly reskinned Dwarfs (like Dwarf Warriors looking like this: https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/8/87/Warhammer_Norse_Dwarfs.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170206072325 or having Viking like helmets with those vizers?), but who also have the rage ability from the Norscans at the cost of a higher price?
And maybe instead of Thunderers they might have a special form of Rangers with Great weapons, who have great armor and melee stats as well, to give them a jack of all trade units as well as anti armor piercing units that can take a beating?
Maybe even a chariot pulled by young Dragon welplings (too young to have fully developed wings, but big enough to be as large as a horse) to have both rage damage as well as a chariot?

And of course, perhaps something like the Bretonnia Hippogryph knights, but instead you have Dwarfs with feathered helmets on top of young Drake, as they burn the enemy alive from above!
With the Dwarven lords being able to ride on top of Dragons as well? Giving them more flexibility?

Thoughts?

Oh! And of course one of the legendary lords will be named "Stoic the Vast"! :D
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  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 14,701
    "wouldn't there be a chance that some fled, and sought shelter behind the magic wards of the Norse Dwarfs?"
    The chance is there... but they would've likely been taken to the Axe by the Dwarfs... They have a certain dislike of Dragons...
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • NielspeterdejongNielspeterdejong Registered Users Posts: 306
    Even Norse Dwarfs? Because Norse Dwarfs were isolated, and not there during the war of the beards and all those conflicts.
  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 14,701
    " A New Beginning: Time of the Ancestor Gods

    Millennia before the founding of the Empire of Man or the rise of Grand Cathay in the East, the ancestors of what were to become the Dwarfen people lived in the mountains of the Southlands, little better than beasts. They lived in caves and ate berries and wild game which they could catch with their bare hands. However, with the invention of flint and basic stone weaponry, the Dwarfs were able to conquer their quest for food and began the process of following other pursuits. As their numbers grew, the Dwarfs began to migrate northward, splitting off into different Clans, each lead by one of the Ancestor Gods. As the foundations of their people were set, many great deeds are told of this grand time, such as the Tale of the Forgefather, a saga that tells of how their god, Grungni Lord of Miners had begun his grand quest to master the arts of metal and steel, or the mysterious and forgotten War against Dragons, which was said to have created the great mountainous region known as Black Fire Pass. "

    http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf

    and this was the time when Grugni, Valaya and Grimnir still walked the world, and of course before becomig High King Thorgrim paid Kraka Drak a visit and brought some northern Dwarfs to Karaz-a-Karak
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • NielspeterdejongNielspeterdejong Registered Users Posts: 306
    edited August 2017
    Ah, didn't know about that. Still, I imagine that the Dwarfs might be more forgiving to those that would not like to get influenced by Chaos and all that. Plus, the Norse Dwarfs were isolated, so we don't know if they participated in the War against Dragons.

    I just want to play as bad ass Viking Dwarfs riding bad ass Dragons, who might be known for having better growth stats as they ride pimp Dragons with their blue balls instead of the current Dwarfs who are in decline due to only tinkering on machines (Yeah yeah, I know, that's a Grudging!)
  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 14,701

    Ah, didn't know about that. Still, I imagine that the Dwarfs might be more forgiving to those that would not like to get influenced by Chaos and all that. Plus, the Norse Dwarfs were isolated, so we don't know if they participated in the War against Dragons.

    They weren't isolated before the coming of Chaos, and the war against the Dragons had happened before that afaik

    "The Norse Dwarfs never truly were called such a name when they first setup their holds within the Norscan mountains. Indeed, for during this time before the Coming of Chaos, these Dwarfs still considered themselves of the same kin to their brothers from the south. Yet as the storm broke, Grungni's messengers reached their northern brethren just about as the warp gates began collapsing. When the northern Dwarfs had emerged from their sealed mines, they found themselves surrounded by the beasts of Chaos and cut off from their southern kin. A few expeditions tried to find a route to the southern strongholds, but they were forced back each time. For now, the Chaos forces seem to be concentrating on spreading southward, and paid little attention the Dwarfs in their midst. Knowing that this situation could not last, the Dwarfs bolstered their fortifications, and waited.[1a]"
    http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Norse_Dwarf
    The Empire still hasn't gotten their FLC LL. We need Marius Leitdorf of Averland!

    Where is Boris Todbringer? Have you seen him? For a Middenland DLC with Boris and the Ar-Ulric!

    Every wrong is recorded. Every slight against us, page after page, ETCHED IN BLOOD!

    Queek could smell their hatred, ratcheted to a degree that even he could not evoke in their simple hearts. He stepped over the old orange-fur’s body, eager to see for himself what it was they saw. But he heard it first.
    'Waaaaaaaggh! Gorfang!'
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited August 2017
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  • UrgatUrgat Registered Users Posts: 996
    Well, dwarfs survived in Karag Dum (read Demonslayer), so Norse dwarfs could certaily survive, Kraka Drak and co are farther away from the Chaos Wastes after all.
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