On Skaven Jitter-speak in Game 2.

Krunch

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/6upu1l/pet_peeve_on_skaven_jitterspeak_it_seems_like_the/


I just think this is an interesting topic on how CA has handled Skaven Jitterspeak in game 2. Give it a read and say what you think below.


Personally now that this is brought to my attention I have to say I am feeling super dissapointed.

tzarkolbaska

Judging by that piece of Queek's speech from the stream CA completely missed the point of skaven way of speaking. Indeed they add synonyms of the most important words in a phrase, not just repeat the same random word twice for no reason.
Now I kinda regret I saw this topic, might not notice this when playing..maybe

Beelze

Should have just scrolled past this..

Now this is going to disturb me aswell, so thanks I guess..

KGpoopy

Didn't think it was too big a deal until I read that.

Wow, kind of disappointed, but at least CA got it it down a little bit.

TheGuardianOfMetal

tzarkolbaska said:

completely missed the point of skaven way of speaking. Indeed they add synonyms of the most important words in a phrase, not just repeat the same random word twice for no reason.
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they do not always add synomyms... "kill-kill" "yes-yes" "no-no"

Krunch

Beelze said:

Should have just scrolled past this..

Now this is going to disturb me aswell, so thanks I guess..

Glad I could help, now you can feel the same discomfort as I do at this fact

FifthOfSpaghetti

Honestly I can't wait for a mod to just silence the little dudes. Thanks to all the people "role-playing" it on forums I can't help but cringe, perhaps I'd find it annoying regardless.

FrontlinerDelta

I had already noticed as well. The worst examples seem to be Queek's dialogue on the campaign map.

The intro to the campaign had a more "correct" version with "We must seek-find the screaming one!"

JTW

Yeah i was looking forward to hearing them, but after seeing the TB videos i'm already at the point of "jesus just shut up already!". Kinda sad considering practically EVERY other game has made skaven speech into a cool feature.

baronblack

Well in Vermintide, repetition happens quite often, usually when Skaven mobs shouts (difficult to hear with music on, I admit) but usually Clan Rats do talk like that:

"Kill-Kill the man-things" and similar happens.

But I didn't expect that all the Skaven talk like Queek Headtaker (who is dumb a lot and have this speech by default even in armybook)

alex33

baronblack said:

Well in Vermintide, repetition happens quite often, usually when Skaven mobs shouts (difficult to hear with music on, I admit) but usually Clan Rats do talk like that:

"Kill-Kill the man-things" and similar happens.

But I didn't expect that all the Skaven talk like Queek Headtaker (who is dumb a lot and have this speech by default even in armybook)

It is not that they repeat that thats how skaven talk. It's about that they repeat the wrong words, for example: THE-THE ELF-THINGS ARE-ARE THERE!

KGpoopy

I love how the reddit user describes how the skaven use follow up synonyms or similar action words like "The elf-things that fight-kill us shall pay-suffer!" Where CA's skaven are more of a stutter like "The elf-things that march against us-us shall pay-pay!".

I also like the detail where the skaven actually emphasize the most important words in the sentence: THE MAN-THINGS ARE THERE-THERE! But CA's skaven is: THE-THE ELF-THINGS ARE-ARE THERE!

That's pretty interesting. Mind you EG: Vermintide was entirely about the Skaven, so one can imagine they more so wanted to perfect the skaven speech.

baronblack

So they repeat articles and preposition instead of verbs...

Oh man, I understood it now...

Ok, it's silly. Only Ikit Claw should talk like that (because he is crazy af), forgot the Queek one in precedent post, I confused characters.

Here is an Ikit's quote:

"Yes-yes. The essence of the warpstone feeds my machine. To create, one must-must destroy! To destroy, one must-must create! This will-will be great-best invention! Make-force all skaven bow-grovel! Destroy-kill all-all enemies!"

Seems normal. But only for him. Queek on the contrary speaks very well even by Skaven Standards.

ChaosDragonBorn

Well Skaven are annoying in every way possible. There is no right way of Skaven talking for me, just exterminate them.

Malagoru

ChaosDragonBorn said:

Well Skaven are annoying in every way possible. There is no right way of Skaven talking for me, just exterminate them.

^This

gladonos

FifthOfSpaghetti said:

Honestly I can't wait for a mod to just silence the little dudes. Thanks to all the people "role-playing" it on forums I can't help but cringe, perhaps I'd find it annoying regardless.

YOU KNOW-THINK NOTHING MAN-THING!

FinishingLast

gladonos said:

FifthOfSpaghetti said:

Honestly I can't wait for a mod to just silence the little dudes. Thanks to all the people "role-playing" it on forums I can't help but cringe, perhaps I'd find it annoying regardless.

YOU KNOW-THINK NOTHING MAN-THING!

Thank you for the helpful example!

GunKing

I am a bit surprised at that, but then perhaps not. Wulfrik can call Dwarfs stunties in the diplomacy menu, Norsca has a tech upgrade describing them as stunties... and as far as I know Chaos forces generally don't call Dwarfs that, maybe stunted ones but they're not gonna straight up use a Greenskin term.

I thought Andy Hall was writing things. Maybe they have multiple writers, and a few of them have only skimmed the lore.

This Skaven mishap makes them come off as more brain-dead than devious but I'm not a huge fan of the rats so it doesn't hit me as hard. Still at least CA gets it right on their speech like 2 times out of 10.

FinCthulhu

It's weird, because there are examples of proper Skaven speech in the army books. I initially thought it was developed for Black Library novels, but no. It's a bit sad CA missed an important part of Skaven characterization.