Why can we never play as Pirates?

axe11154

(I know this is a off topic forum but there's no general Discussion)

Why is it we can never play as the pirates. I know it sounds odd but havnt you ever wanted to play as them.
There the bad guy. The raiders of the seas. And no the Mori arnt a Pirate gang.
It would be awesome.
my Ideas on how it would work
Pirates would have a 15% higher chance of capturing ships.
Pirate leaders or agents can stay at sea as long as there boat stays afloat.
Most Pirate land units only have ammo for 1 shot.
Pirate fleets can go a mile further on the map.


what do you think

Leader ideas
Blackbeard (Edward Teach)
Grace O'Malley
Black Bart
Henry Every (Avery)
Henry Morgan
Calico Jack (Jack Rackham)
Barbarossa (meaning Red Beard) the nickname of Khair ad Din
Captain Kidd

zeretex

pirates arent really that organized now are they???

daelin4#9896

Because pirates do not operate in the faction-style that TW plays on. Organization and hierarchy among pirates vary widely. Some are democratic, some are chaotic, some are authoritarian and some are merely privateers working for more legitimate entities. I can't imagine there being a pirate faction in the sense of a regular one, with a faction leader, heir, generals and the organization need to develop said faction and its holdings. That's not to mention that at some point said faction would expand and end up becoming ust like a regular faction, just with a unique starting phase- one that other regular factions can do anyways.

Ace_Blazer

You could roleplay one of your fleets as being a bunch of privateers. I've done that a few times.

[Deleted User]

Aaaaaaarrrr.......

daelin4#9896

Dang, looks like the forum's maintenance wasn't enough time for my Level 6 Ninjas to take out HG...

Xand

daelin4 wrote: »

Because pirates do not operate in the faction-style that TW plays on. Organization and hierarchy among pirates vary widely. Some are democratic, some are chaotic, some are authoritarian and some are merely privateers working for more legitimate entities. I can't imagine there being a pirate faction in the sense of a regular one, with a faction leader, heir, generals and the organization need to develop said faction and its holdings. That's not to mention that at some point said faction would expand and end up becoming ust like a regular faction, just with a unique starting phase- one that other regular factions can do anyways.

Well to be fair CA have taken liberties with factions for gameplay purposes and player enjoyment, such as the Britons and Gauls in Rome who were just large groups of competing tribes thoughin Rome were bundled up into two nations. I don't see why the pirates wouldn't be a fun faction to play as, and if the player wasn't playing as them they would have minor nation AI and be defensive and not expand overly much but if the player were to play as them they could play them however they wanted.

A pirate faction would be a great idea. I'm saying this after having just come from playing Secret of Monkey Island so my views might be a little influenced by that but w/e. Moar piratez plz.

[Deleted User]

I used the time to perfect my flying monkey ninja warriors, muuuwaaahaaa...

This sucks....just checked who's on, and there was three mods and three plebs, lol...talk about a threat rich environment...

Oh, and on the pirate theme, one of my lorikeets (parrot) escaped...grrr. Still trying to lure the b*gger back to the cage...

Ace_Blazer

The plebs do make a horrendous sound when they're happy.

More pirates eh? I remember this one ETW preview with a female interviewer and Kieran and all they wanted to talk about was whether there were pirates in the game. Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom infatuation of some sort I'm guesing.

Durin#4613

It would be great to conquer Europe with the army of pirates bwahaha.

Arvenides

Pirates can't rule!

Maeda_Toshiie

Ace Blazer wrote: »

The plebs do make a horrendous sound when they're happy.

More pirates eh? I remember this one ETW preview with a female interviewer and Kieran and all they wanted to talk about was whether there were pirates in the game. Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom infatuation of some sort I'm guesing.

We don't need pirates mincing around.

[Deleted User]

In all seriousness, you could have Pirates: Total War...with regionalised pirate factions.

There was an awful lot of effort put into closing down the various pirate mobs during the 17 and 1800's, on a global scale. They never got rid of them...now they are called 'lawyers'.

axe11154

and dont forget
Pirates took over many caribean islands and towns
it would be fun to make naval combat the main way to fight

axe11154

I could see it now the factions would be the crews of
Blackbeard (Edward Teach)
Grace O'Malley
Black Bart
Henry Every (Avery)
Henry Morgan
Calico Jack (Jack Rackham)
Barbarossa (meaning Red Beard) the nickname of Khair ad Din
Captain Kidd

and basically spend your time capturing every island in the Caribbean and killing off other pirates.
depending on what faction you choose changes what time it is and what other factions you half to fight

Dionysius the Mighty

axe11154 wrote: »

I could see it now the factions would be the crews of
Blackbeard (Edward Teach)
Grace O'Malley
Black Bart
Henry Every (Avery)
Henry Morgan
Calico Jack (Jack Rackham)
Barbarossa (meaning Red Beard) the nickname of Khair ad Din
Captain Kidd

and basically spend your time capturing every island in the Caribbean and killing off other pirates.
depending on what faction you choose changes what time it is and what other factions you half to fight

It's called 'Sid Meier's Pirates!' and it's available on Steam.

axe11154

is it a RTS?

Dionysius the Mighty

Pretty much. You sail around the Caribbean in your pirate ship, you can attack other ships in one on one combat to steal their goods. You can also put in to ports to recruit new crew members, receive missions, and even romance beautiful Governor's Daughters! Then there's an actual storyline you can get involved with if you want, where you have to rescue your kidnapped family members from the evil Marquis de Montalban and the dastardly Baron Raymondo. You can discover lost Native cities, dig up buried treasure and do battle with other famous pirates. There's also a turn based land battle system where you lead your crew against cities and their defenders, if you win you sack the settlement, and can even replace the governor with one of another nation who's more friendly to you. Or if the life of crime doesn't appeal, you can side with either the English, French, Dutch or Spanish and become a Privateer.

axe11154

really ?_?
sounds cool Ill try it

axe11154

I still want a pirates for total war.

Sherasonni

Maeda Toshiie wrote: »

We don't need pirates mincing around.

But pirates did mince around back then so we should have them.

Btw, who's that woman avatar of your's? I posted a sketch of a warrior that I drew but got banned for it several months later. I didn't know that the avatar rule changed at that time.

[Deleted User]

Moderators get their own avi's....

It's a symbiotic relationship....CA give them personal avi's, and in return the mod's keep us in line

Sherasonni

Ohh, I seee.

*glares at ban-happy Daelin*

daelin4#9896

Look at me the wrong way and its already an infraction.

[Deleted User]

Or you end up like me...permanently stationed on the russian front (that's not really my avi, it's a picture of me in the frozen wastes).

axe11154

or me loosing all my land

System

Or me, losing all my...no wait, my avatars pretty cool still.

daelin4#9896

Hidden Gunman wrote: »

Or you end up like me...permanently stationed on the russian front (that's not really my avi, it's a picture of me in the frozen wastes).

Oh don't be so glum, consider it a "grande" honour!

axe11154

back on topic
PIRATE TILL THE END

Teuner

Then they must make something that you order them to capture that city and instead they go to your capital and sack the place or all half drunk idiot-genius captains like Captain Jack Sparrow

axe11154

Why can't they be barbosa