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So sad

FranzSaxonFranzSaxon Posts: 914Registered Users
edited October 8 in General Discussion
So sad, all the warhammer junkies are getting their love while us historical lovers have to wait...don't get me wrong I've loved WH since 15 but im really a historian at heart and i appreciate the new fantasy thing but im really hurting for historical. nobody's even on these attila forums or threads anymore its so depressing.

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  • CaractacusMagnusCaractacusMagnus Senior Member Posts: 364Registered Users
    It can come across almost like the historical fans have been discarded to be honest, the lack of news, the conspicuous absence of any of the 30th anniversary love, it's easy to feel like the history games and their fans have become some sort of footnote...


    ...I don't think it's really the case at all, though. They've got a bunch of history projects on as they've told us. Probably just slight communication fail from CA.

    CA, why don't you call home once in a while? We've been worried sick. :p
  • HrafnHrafn Posts: 152Registered Users
    I can't wait for them to move on from this Warhammer crap. Pretty disgusted to see people falling over themselves to buy Warhammer "2" also.

    IMO looks like people paying to buy the same game twice.

    Consider me a Total War bittervet. Started with original Shogun, and not a fan of their new marketing model.
  • WarlockeWarlocke Senior Member Posts: 1,718Registered Users
    If releasing a new game with a new map and all new units on the same engine doesn't count as a real sequel then almost no Total War games do, either.
    I'm always this grumpy, so it is nothing personal.
  • AkrotiriAkrotiri Senior Member Hellenic RepublicPosts: 849Registered Users
    edited October 10
    Hrafn said:

    I can't wait for them to move on from this Warhammer crap. Pretty disgusted to see people falling over themselves to buy Warhammer "2" also.

    IMO looks like people paying to buy the same game twice.

    Consider me a Total War bittervet. Started with original Shogun, and not a fan of their new marketing model.

    I couldn't agree with you more. I have TW:Warhammer 1 but just couldn't get into it, so I passed on purchasing WH2.

    The only thing I'm hoping for is that the next historical title isn't dumbed down and missing every feature that made TW:Attila the best game CA ever developed imho. If all or most of the campaign features are missing in the next historical title then I will stop buying their games and find another PC genre to get into. I'll be sad though since I have been a CA customer since Rome1 and have every historical title.

    I hope CA has realizes that their real fans are the historical ones , the Warhammer fans are clearly not going to stick around and will abandon CA en masse once the fantasy title has run its course.
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  • HrafnHrafn Posts: 152Registered Users
    Warlocke said:

    If releasing a new game with a new map and all new units on the same engine doesn't count as a real sequel then almost no Total War games do, either.

    No, that you were never sold an entire game the first time is what it is.
  • WarlockeWarlocke Senior Member Posts: 1,718Registered Users
    Hrafn said:

    Warlocke said:

    If releasing a new game with a new map and all new units on the same engine doesn't count as a real sequel then almost no Total War games do, either.

    No, that you were never sold an entire game the first time is what it is.
    That is absurd. The amount of variation in models, skeletons and animations in the launch of the first TWW by far eclipsed anything in their previous games. To have expected all of that plus the additional content added in game 2 is unreasonable.
    I'm always this grumpy, so it is nothing personal.
  • FranzSaxonFranzSaxon Posts: 914Registered Users
    Thanks for keeping the thread alive, I do hope also we get a work OFF ATTILA for our historical and not a work off this warhammer style. what im expecting and hoping is this is only a fantasy style sub design and works for WH but obv will not be ok with us via a next historical. All we want is some drop in news. The last news was 3 months ago. And it was zero detail
  • WarlockeWarlocke Senior Member Posts: 1,718Registered Users
    The reduction of campaign features (politics, settlement infrastructure, etc...) is to match the Warhammer setting. I'm pretty confident that in those regards, the next historical title will more resemble Attila. Hopefully we will get information soon.
    I'm always this grumpy, so it is nothing personal.
  • Sughdian WarriorSughdian Warrior Senior Member Posts: 172Registered Users
    Ah... and here I find my like-minded colleagues, lamenting the poor state of affairs, like I am.
  • nodulousnodulous Senior Member Posts: 812Registered Users
    Yep. I think I've worn a hole in AOC and been reduced to playing as the Sassanids for something different to do.
  • FranzSaxonFranzSaxon Posts: 914Registered Users

    Ah... and here I find my like-minded colleagues, lamenting the poor state of affairs, like I am.

    We are here my friend. Soon hopefully we will be happily surprised..
  • FranzSaxonFranzSaxon Posts: 914Registered Users
    nodulous said:

    Yep. I think I've worn a hole in AOC and been reduced to playing as the Sassanids for something different to do.

    Lmao so this. This.
  • CaractacusMagnusCaractacusMagnus Senior Member Posts: 364Registered Users

    Ah... and here I find my like-minded colleagues, lamenting the poor state of affairs, like I am.

    We are here my friend. Soon hopefully we will be happily surprised..
    Fingers crossed in anticipation. Can't wait for an announement to break the disheartening radio silence re history stuff.
  • FranzSaxonFranzSaxon Posts: 914Registered Users

    Ah... and here I find my like-minded colleagues, lamenting the poor state of affairs, like I am.

    We are here my friend. Soon hopefully we will be happily surprised..
    Fingers crossed in anticipation. Can't wait for an announement to break the disheartening radio silence re history stuff.
    Yeah what time period you hoping for personally?
  • HrafnHrafn Posts: 152Registered Users
    SE Asia during the warring states period.
  • CaractacusMagnusCaractacusMagnus Senior Member Posts: 364Registered Users

    Ah... and here I find my like-minded colleagues, lamenting the poor state of affairs, like I am.

    We are here my friend. Soon hopefully we will be happily surprised..
    Fingers crossed in anticipation. Can't wait for an announement to break the disheartening radio silence re history stuff.
    Yeah what time period you hoping for personally?
    In an ideal world, I'd like something that makes real use of (and expands upon) the dynasty management and narrative-building/role play aspects of Attila - the Hundred Years' War would be great.


  • FranzSaxonFranzSaxon Posts: 914Registered Users

    Ah... and here I find my like-minded colleagues, lamenting the poor state of affairs, like I am.

    We are here my friend. Soon hopefully we will be happily surprised..
    Fingers crossed in anticipation. Can't wait for an announement to break the disheartening radio silence re history stuff.
    Yeah what time period you hoping for personally?
    In an ideal world, I'd like something that makes real use of (and expands upon) the dynasty management and narrative-building/role play aspects of Attila - the Hundred Years' War would be great.


    Id be in heaven
  • FifthOfSpaghettiFifthOfSpaghetti Posts: 1,051Registered Users
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  • PatriksevePatrikseve Member Posts: 1,044Registered Users
    There will be a big expansion for attila likely geared towards vikings in the style of fall of the samurai smaller focused while Rome 2 will get a massive expansion more akin to a new game. Also they will maybe next year reveal the historical new game... then you have the other stuff. There is things happening there.

    In regards to Warhammer I enjoy both and warhammer is pretty much the best total war has been so far. Cant wait for the game 3 big campaign there. In regards to history its coming aswell frankly there is coming more total war stuff at short times than ever with all the new expansions and dlc and so on.

  • furtissimfurtissim Posts: 40Registered Users
    I love Attila (more than Rome II), so I got a bit sad to learn that Rome II is getting some imminent love :( This weekend I'll rock good old WRE as the new ME for Warhammer is pretty **** (even though I LOVE the game). Until they fix ME, I won't bother with Warhammer.
  • Lord_HenkusLord_Henkus Posts: 1,056Registered Users
    After the announcement of the new DLC for Rome 2, the Rome 2 discussion board is brought back to the top of the website. You can see an incredible increase in activity compared to the last couple of weeks. So I think it is ok, most people went silent because..you know... time goes by and people lose attention
    How negative I may sound, game is stil 11 out of 10

    Also, please slow down combat!

    And last but not least, CA please hire me for no specific reason


  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Senior Member Posts: 2,147Registered Users
    I think more people would like this game if the late game was any good. By the middle to end game, you’re really the only faction left on the map except the Huns and the rest of the world is wasteland.
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    Team WRE
  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USAPosts: 13,211Registered Users, Moderators, Knights
    I disagree somewhat with your assessment Ron. I really like Attila. I've completed the first campaign victory with 22 different faction, and have done several factions two, three or four times more. I've taken five to the next stage and two to the final. Almost all were on the Hard campaign difficulty.

    Getting ready to take on the Huns is a challenge for some of the factions, but quite satisfying when done. Often, during a campaign, some of my best expansion has been done by colonizing the razed areas. In particular the Slavic factions.

    My only irritation is how quickly the Western Roman Empire succumbs to external forces. I would like to have them survive a little longer than what they usually do.

    My one goal in the game right now is to take the WRE back to their original status and reestablish the Roman empire. I must admit, I've had my butt handed to me "every" time so far (5 or 6 tries). I will get it done, one of these days.


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  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Senior Member Posts: 2,147Registered Users
    dge1 said:

    I disagree somewhat with your assessment Ron. I really like Attila. I've completed the first campaign victory with 22 different faction, and have done several factions two, three or four times more. I've taken five to the next stage and two to the final. Almost all were on the Hard campaign difficulty.

    Getting ready to take on the Huns is a challenge for some of the factions, but quite satisfying when done. Often, during a campaign, some of my best expansion has been done by colonizing the razed areas. In particular the Slavic factions.

    My only irritation is how quickly the Western Roman Empire succumbs to external forces. I would like to have them survive a little longer than what they usually do.

    My one goal in the game right now is to take the WRE back to their original status and reestablish the Roman empire. I must admit, I've had my butt handed to me "every" time so far (5 or 6 tries). I will get it done, one of these days.


    Does it not bother you that so much of the map is desolate by late game? Or are you saying that isn't the case?
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  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USAPosts: 13,211Registered Users, Moderators, Knights
    Yes. I have always found the desolation irritating. I have never played the Huns primarily due to that reason. I just made the personal decision early on to waste the Huns as soon as I had the chance. Once I get the popup saying Attila is dead, I'm off to the races.
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  • KGpoopyKGpoopy Posts: 1,942Registered Users
    I love fantasy AND historical.

    What I don't like is when doing fantasy suddenly means simplifying things even more and cutting features that would have been a great learning experience for future historical titles. Not to mention that the fantasy version of features could have been their best work. (Sieges, Naval combat, politics, and whatever else)
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  • GreenKing1GreenKing1 Senior Member Posts: 466Registered Users
    dge1 said:

    Yes. I have always found the desolation irritating. I have never played the Huns primarily due to that reason. I just made the personal decision early on to waste the Huns as soon as I had the chance. Once I get the popup saying Attila is dead, I'm off to the races.

    There's a mod that's called "razing = sacking" that seems to solve the problem of desolate regions
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