What is the fascination with Boris Todbringer?

PappyTron

As per the title, what is the fascination with Boris Todbringer as opposed to any of the other Elector Counts? I don't think that I have read anyone talk about Feuerbach or Gausser et al, who are just as interesting as Todbringer in my humble opinion.

Stephince

He has one eye and a cool helmet

Woody01

He is in the game and Empire has only one starting position.

Rocketlegion

He's basically a meme on this site at this point.

PileOBones

Stephince said:

He has one eye and a cool helmet

Yes, that seems to be a major problem for the Empire...... All their captains have only one eye as well.

Either eye-patches are THE fashion craze in the Empire, or they seriously need to rework their health and safety regulations when playing with sharp pointy sticks or other pointy weapons!!

Neolucifer2000

PappyTron said:

As per the title, what is the fascination with Boris Todbringer as opposed to any of the other Elector Counts? I don't think that I have read anyone talk about Feuerbach or Gausser et al, who are just as interesting as Todbringer in my humble opinion.

because his is the true emperor compared to the pretender karl franz....

In reality its because he is the other "culture" of the empire having faith not in sigmar but in Ulric....kinda like kislev, it is its own thing.

Hexi

Because he's not playable in the campaign. If he was, nobody would care.

BardicInquisition

From my pov, it's not really what Boris Todbringer himself brings to the table that makes people interested in or clamour for him.

It's the possibility that with his implementation, a Middenland army that includes Teutogen Guard, Knights of the White Wolf, Priests of Ulric, Knights Panther, Wolf-kin, etc might come along, not to mention a new start pos without requiring one of the Reiklander LLs to be moved arbitrarily to usurp some other Elector Count. Middenland was one of the few Elector Provinces in the Empire to have received their own army list from the now defunct Storm of Chaos supplement (also seen in lore) that at least gave them a distinct aesthetic and "feel". compared to the default "Reikland" Empire army.

Do Feuerbach (Talabecland) or Gausser (Nordland) bring along an interesting Elector Province army with a notably distinct look and culture? Not as much as Middenland to be honest. Hell, I'd even say besides Marius Leitdorf himself, Averland's army doesn't have much going for them either (but then they were supposedly going to get their own unique units in an upcoming Forgeworld supplement of the Battle of Blackfire Pass where Marius was killed, but alas never came to be). The only other non-Reiklander Empire army that can match Middenland in distinct design is Nuln/Wissenland, but only because they're the gun army that Forgeworld helped flesh out.

There's also the fact that Boris already has a unique model ingame and leads a skeleton Middenland in multiplayer battles, which many see as a faction that's "almost there" and would just require a little more polishing to be made playable, compared to the other Elector Counts who don't even have a multiplayer battle presence or a unique model (looking at you poor Marius).

MrMecH

Because he is the most potential LL and subfaction for Empire. Ohh... I like his hat too.

KGpoopy

-Because Boris is in every part of the game except the campaign.
-People want Middenland (Cult of Ulric)
-New Start Position

hendo1592

Have you even ever looked into his eye? It’s capsizing.

PTree

He will be released, along with a Middenland faction and general old world upgrade with Warhammer 3 - ie storm of Choas to counter the demons and new choas, I'm pretty sure of it. So far they have followed the formula that GW used themselves with regards to releases, ie, New World etc..

DolorousEdd

IDK. But I like the version of him that has red hair. I don't think I would fully enjoy a Boris Todbringer with white/grey hair, should he ever be released.

Itharus

Stephince said:

He has one eye and a cool helmet

If that's the case then I should be a LL for the Empire in TWWH.

My patch is more stylish.

Vladdy

Dont forget that in the end of time, middenheim and boris keep fighting way more than altdorf. A light of hope in the dark. True epic stuff.

Canuovea

Empire needs another start position for Empire. Boris is basically only missing Quest Battles, but we do not get him added. I would rather have Marius Leitdorf of course, but Boris is pretty much finished already.

The Red Duke is in a similar situation with Mousillon.

Sultschiem

Boris in Middenland would be a boring second start.

With Mortal Empires, I would rather like to see someone starting in Sudenburg or the New World Colonies. Sudenburg is especially interesting, since you can face the vampire of the strigoi and nercarch faction as well as skaven, lizardmen and later tomb kings and araby pretty early on.

Canuovea

Sultschiem said:

Boris in Middenland would be a boring second start.

With Mortal Empires, I would rather like to see someone starting in Sudenburg or the New World Colonies. Sudenburg is especially interesting, since you can face the vampire of the strigoi and nercarch faction as well as skaven, lizardmen and later tomb kings and araby pretty early on.

Boring, yes, but doable for those who want Co-op. Same could be said about Ungrim in Karak Kadrin.

Matmannen

There are a couple of cool units that would be released with him.

Brakier

Couse he is handsome

Larbo

Brakier said:

Couse he is handsome

Think you misspelled that:
"`Cause hes had some." ;-)

Fossoway

Because Boris is one of the more badass elector counts, with a tragic backstory and a grim obsession with Beastmen. He was the only candidate to pose a threat to Karl Franz for the nomination of Emperor (he only lost because the cult of sigmar had 3 votes for Franz, which is complete BS). Also having him will unlock these:

- new empire subfaction and start position
- new army color scheme (I am sick of the red and white of the empire)
- people are hoping for the cult of Ulric implemented alog with him
- possibility of multiplayer
- being at the forefront of Norscan raids

Tumble

The appeal is just that it's the closest thing to a new empire subfaction and start position, which is long overdue. They added a unique model for him so the fandom and speculation just went on and on from there.

BardicInquisition

Sultschiem said:

Boris in Middenland would be a boring second start.

With Mortal Empires, I would rather like to see someone starting in Sudenburg or the New World Colonies. Sudenburg is especially interesting, since you can face the vampire of the strigoi and nercarch faction as well as skaven, lizardmen and later tomb kings and araby pretty early on.

Sudenburg isn't even on the Mortal Empires Campaign map anymore.

Mogwai_Man

He is a counterpart to Karl Franz, he goes from being Franz's biggest rival to his strongest supporter.

Middenland could also get their own unique roster.

oliverpmason

Canuovea said:

Sultschiem said:

Boris in Middenland would be a boring second start.

With Mortal Empires, I would rather like to see someone starting in Sudenburg or the New World Colonies. Sudenburg is especially interesting, since you can face the vampire of the strigoi and nercarch faction as well as skaven, lizardmen and later tomb kings and araby pretty early on.

Boring, yes, but doable for those who want Co-op. Same could be said about Ungrim in Karak Kadrin.

I think it would be very different with vampires on your doorstep and being closer to Chaos.

Debauchee

"Mortal Empires" campaign has 35 legit legendary lords, yet CA shows Todbringer. It's either a hint or a top-tier trolling.

Fossoway

Debauchee said:

"Mortal Empires" campaign has 35 legit legendary lords, yet CA shows Todbringer. It's either a hint or a top-tier trolling.

They confirmed it was not a hint, just a wrong choice in showcasing the trailer.

Debauchee

Trolltastic!

PaulH

Marius Leitdorf has vastly more potential as an interesting LL to give the Empire some diversity in playstyle. Boris is pretty straight-laced compared to him, he's pretty much a gruff one-eyed man with a hatred for beastmen. Leitdorf has vastly more enemies to fight; angry bretonnians, bee swarms, forests, imaginary fishmen, halfling scum and greenskins. Far more fun!

Fossoway

PaulH said:

Marius Leitdorf has vastly more potential as an interesting LL to give the Empire some diversity in playstyle. Boris is pretty straight-laced compared to him, he's pretty much a gruff one-eyed man with a hatred for beastmen. Leitdorf has vastly more enemies to fight; angry bretonnians, bee swarms, forests, imaginary fishmen, halfling scum and greenskins. Far more fun!

If he ever makes it into the game, I want the option to give his horse a title in the office tree!