WH2 Mortal Empires - Mod Issue

Parmenides

Hey Guys..... I need help to understand why my mod does not work on WH2 Mortal Empires.
The mod is for the Wood Elves, is that every time the Oak of Ages is improved, it gives us as a reward two new items for Generals, Heroes or Lords. In total add 6 new items.
This mod I did for WH1 and it worked fine. Now I wanted to adapt it to WH2 Mortal Empires, making the changes that were needed (multiple tables), but the game never starts (without giving an error or something else).
For the tests I did, I affirm that the problem must be in the definition of the Ancillaries Tables, since I made several tests and when I change my items for others of the game, it starts without error.
So that they can understand better I will leave a link with the mod so they can see it.
I leave a link to the mod of WH1 (works) and another with the WH2.
If you can tell me what I did wrong or what I did not do, I would appress you
To make the Mod use PFM 5.0 with Schema_104.


I apologize for my poor English, since it is not my native language.

Thank you very much


WH1 Mod: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7FHJlSIFFxLNE14NUdTMERZZUU
WH2 Mod: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7FHJlSIFFxLVXhlc1JwY2E0LXM

thesniperdevil

I just took a look at your mod and it seems the ancillaries tables are completely empty?

I would recommend that you try to rebuild the mod using the Assembly kit. A small number of database entries changed slightly in game 2 so you might be referencing non-existent db entries (oir missing out on new tables entirely).

PFM is fantastic, but the official tools are really good for db editing because they won't let you save your changes to a table if it's invalid.

Parmenides

Hey thesniperdevil, I appreciate very much that you took the time to review the files.
Look at these pictures:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7FHJlSIFFxLZ3JMYkoyV3Eyanc
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7FHJlSIFFxLWXphbkY1S1VhbFE/view?usp=sharing

Considering I am a newbie in modding, there are many things that I do not know. I use PFM because it seems more intuitive to me.
Do you think the problem could be in using the PFM?
Keep in mind that I've already made small mods with PFM and they all work.


In the following link you will find all the extracted tables:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7FHJlSIFFxLeU9ZWWxBM1NDTGM


thank you very much

thesniperdevil

PFM is essential for modding - but I find that it will let me make edits that the official tools wouldn't let me do.

I would recommend you make your db changes in official tools, then export it into a pack file, which you then fix up in PFM.

The official tools also have useful features to see how everything is connected - right click a database field to "see references" and "show schema" that shows you the various tables are connected to the fields in the current table you are currently in.

As for digging around in more detail - unfortunately I can't right now - trying to figure out my own mod issues

uriak

I have both good and bad news for you.

Bad news : the latest PFM doesn't handle the new ancillaries table. The good news : you can edit yourself the xml schema and make it work, as I did for my WE followers mod.

Basically there is a new boolean entry in the table at the end. So take your PFM, open the max version file and increment the verion of the ancillary table by one. We'll be adding this newer one in the master schema.

In the master schema xml file, search for the ancillary table, copy the latest version (should be 15), change it to 16, and in the inside nodes, add a last entry with a boolean type.
Now, when you open the anciallary table in PFM from the new data.pack, it should not be empty. You'll have to reedit the value by hand, because the old versions from your mod is in WH1 format.

Parmenides

Hey Uriak, thanks for answering.
The information you have given me is very good, since I am a newbie in modding.
Regarding the problem, I already solved it. It has nothing to do with the PFM, but CA changed the name of many "effects" in the table "ancillary_to_effects_tables", when that change the game starts and the mod worked correctly.
By the way, since I'm a newbie, I always look at other mods, to understand how everything works. Your mod "Followers of the Woods" not only helped me but I have installed them in WHM1 and WHM2, and I like that they do not forget the Woood Elves.

Thank you very much for the information

uriak

Ha yes, must say I was quite distraught at first when I wanted to port this mod from WH1 to mortal empires, first because of the issue with the table as I have explained, and then I crashed because of what you say, I don't remember which effect changed but I isolated it by dichotomy (I had not the patience to crossread all the existing effect haha)

Glad you like my mod, it features too the only way I've found to add follower drops in the game because followers aren't included as random rewards like the other ancillaries, so you have to use drop chance scripts as I've done.

MrFestis

uriak said:

Basically there is a new boolean entry in the table at the end. So take your PFM, open the max version file and increment the verion of the ancillary table by one. We'll be adding this newer one in the master schema.

In the master schema xml file, search for the ancillary table, copy the latest version (should be 15), change it to 16, and in the inside nodes, add a last entry with a boolean type.
Now, when you open the anciallary table in PFM from the new data.pack, it should not be empty. You'll have to reedit the value by hand, because the old versions from your mod is in WH1 format.

Sorry for necroing this post, but I'm also a modding noob and got stuck at the "and in the inside nodes, add a last entry with a boolean type" part. What is the name of the boolean you're referring to ("randomly dropped" maybe)? Do I just add another node with the new boolean name below the "field name=" nodes, and do I simply edit the version from 15 to 16 in that table version or do I copy the whole table to below the current one and do the additions?

Nightscales

Hi, Parm, I've noticed you've taken down your Sisters of Twilight mod from steam. Have you run into impassable obstacles or are things gradually advancing? I'm looking forward to playing WE's with your mod active. Got any updates?