Character overview: Bretonnian Repanse de Lyonesse

Bies#4376

Repanse de Lyonesse win fame as the dreaded Damoiselle de Guerre who railled the battered armies of Bretonnia during the kingdoms darkest hour. This was when King Louis the Brave was slain in battle before Couronne fighting a vast Chaos horde invading Bretonnia from beyond the Sea of Claws.

Chaos raiders spread out across the land burning and destroying. Everywhere the kinghts were hacked down as they bravely defied impossible odds. At this dark moment, amid the smoking ruins of a small village in remote Lyonesse, Repanse saw the Lady of the Lake. They Lady appeared to speak saying "Repanse, Repanse, rid my land of these foul foes, for they do offend me with their presence!"

Inspired by her vision she donned armour that she found on a slain Knight and grabbed the reins of a terrified warhorse which was running loose. When the retreating Knights saw a mere damsel bravely setting of to do battle with Chaos, they were shamed and felt honour bound to follow her to death or glory!

Couronne was saved. In gratitude Repanse obtained not only the honours of knighhood but also the Dukedom of Lyonesse.

Weapons/Armor

Armed with the Sword of Lyonesse, heavy armor and a shield

Mount

Rides a barded Bretonnian Warhorse

Knightly Virtues

She is a knight and thus has the Knights Virtue. She also has the Virtue of Devotion.

Special Rules

Magic Items

Army

Chevaliers de Lyonesse: a mighty force of Bretonnian Knights and Peasants, who were drawn to the banner of the famed Repanse de Lyonesse (The Chevaliers de la Damoiselle de Guerre, The Defenders of the Fleur de Lys, The Bowmen of Lyonesse, The Spearmen of Lyonesse).

Bies#4376

@SakuraHeinz here you go

TheGuardianOfMetal#3661

Ah, the so often wanted Wight-Queen of Moussilon

Celebare

She's long dead. So at least give her grail virtue for an explanation of her come back.... or the Spirit Trait.

ladymissfit#8688

AAAAAAAAAAA I WANT HER SO BAD!

Arthas_Menethil#3421

ladymissfit said:

AAAAAAAAAAA I WANT HER SO BAD!

USE NECROMANCY THEN! Tends to help bring the dead back to life.

Zergles

Didn't they burn Joanne of Arc at the end though?

MrJade

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

Arthas_Menethil#3421

Zergles said:

Didn't they burn Joanne of Arc at the end though?

Yes. If we translate Joanne of Arc into Warhammer that probably means Repanse was burned in the Empire because you know GRIMDARK AND REASONS TO FACTIONS TO FIGHT!

Itharus#3127

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

Game 1 isn't dead you know. There's still a TON of room for FLC and DLC for it. CA will want people to keep buying it to play into Mortal Empires and the game 3 equivalent any way... so there's no reason not to keep interest alive with new DLC and FLC.

Also, some people just don't want game 2 and only play game 1.

If Rome 2 can get DLC....

FinishingLast#1402

Itharus said:

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

Game 1 isn't dead you know. There's still a TON of room for FLC and DLC for it. CA will want people to keep buying it to play into Mortal Empires and the game 3 equivalent any way... so there's no reason not to keep interest alive with new DLC and FLC.

Also, some people just don't want game 2 and only play game 1.

If Rome 2 can get DLC....

By that logic no game is ever dead. It’s more accurate to say game 1 is dead unless CA decides to revive it and there are no signs of that any time soon.

GalenHHH

Itharus said:

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

Game 1 isn't dead you know. There's still a TON of room for FLC and DLC for it. CA will want people to keep buying it to play into Mortal Empires and the game 3 equivalent any way... so there's no reason not to keep interest alive with new DLC and FLC.

Also, some people just don't want game 2 and only play game 1.

If Rome 2 can get DLC....

Mortal empires and immortal empires are reason enough to buy game 1 (and/or game 2 when game 3 arrives).
And people that only play game 1 should be ok they have had more than enough content.(pathces dont count ,everyone can use more of those ).

Itharus#3127

There are G1 factions that still aren't in. Including everyone's favorite - Kislev.

FinishingLast#1402

Itharus said:

There are G1 factions that still aren't in. Including everyone's favorite - Kislev.

Yeah but those are far more likely to come via ME then to game 1 itself. Just as no other updates have gone to game 1.

RodentofDoom#1703

Whether new things are added to game 1 or not.

I still like reading these things, thanks OP

Tayvar

An long dead character that is totally not fitting for the grimdark Bretonnia of the 6th Edition.

NeverBackDown#9942

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

So you'd prefer if they just gave up and didn't flesh out the lore like everyone wants? Sounds dumb and boring.

SiWI#8629

I wouldn't discount the possibility for BR to get more LL...

They could get FLC and because they are a FLC race, DLC.

So if the old world gets feature in LP, BR could be in those.

And being dead id not a hurdle for TW WH (nor was it for GW, like ever)

Itharus#3127

FinishingLast said:

Itharus said:

There are G1 factions that still aren't in. Including everyone's favorite - Kislev.

Yeah but those are far more likely to come via ME then to game 1 itself. Just as no other updates have gone to game 1.

I'm pretty sure there will be no DLC or FLC specific to Mortal Empires or its successor. It wouldn't make any kind of sense. DLC for the appropriate game's main campaign would double as DLC for ME and its successor and give further incentive to buy those base games.

FinishingLast#1402

Itharus said:

FinishingLast said:

Itharus said:

There are G1 factions that still aren't in. Including everyone's favorite - Kislev.

Yeah but those are far more likely to come via ME then to game 1 itself. Just as no other updates have gone to game 1.

I'm pretty sure there will be no DLC or FLC specific to Mortal Empires or its successor. It wouldn't make any kind of sense. DLC for the appropriate game's main campaign would double as DLC for ME and its successor and give further incentive to buy those base games.

I didn’t mean to suggest they would be DLC solid under ME. They’d be released as game 2 DLC that works in ME. That would drive sales to both game 1 and 2 since you have to own both to play them. Releasing them just for game 1 doesn’t necessarily drive sales for game 2 and also means they would have to make two versions of any FLC and DLC, one for game 1 and one for ME. I don’t expect that to happen. It might, there’s always that possibility, but I doubt it. It makes more business and programming sense to sell them as game 2 DLC for use in ME. That means people have to own both games and they only have to make one version. Otherwise, it’s two versions for both games and doesn’t drive as many sales of the base games.

Tayvar

Arthasmenethril said:

Zergles said:

Didn't they burn Joanne of Arc at the end though?

Yes. If we translate Joanne of Arc into Warhammer that probably means Repanse was burned in the Empire because you know GRIMDARK AND REASONS TO FACTIONS TO FIGHT!

If she was playable in the Bretonnia's 6th Edition, the Duke would not allowed her to be any near his Pegasuses, considering her low born origins, let alone allowing her to lead his Knights.

"Each Lord has a handful of Knights Errant in his retinue whose responsibility it is to care for this, his prized possession and noblest of steeds. Peasants are never allowed near these beasts, lest their stench or clumsiness causes the pegasus harm - indeed, tales tell of the obsessive Volstall of Quenelles, who executed any peasant that even gazed upon his steed."

https://whenc.totalwar.com/#/unit/wh_dlc07_brt_cav_royal_pegasus_knights_0

MrJade

NeverBackDown said:

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

So you'd prefer if they just gave up and didn't flesh out the lore like everyone wants? Sounds dumb and boring.

I'd rather a character that isn't dead, long gone, and has no in universe ability to come back. Also playable in 8e, which Repanse isn't, since she was a 5e character that wasn't brought forward into 6e.

NeverBackDown#9942

MrJade said:

NeverBackDown said:

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

So you'd prefer if they just gave up and didn't flesh out the lore like everyone wants? Sounds dumb and boring.

I'd rather a character that isn't dead, long gone, and has no in universe ability to come back. Also playable in 8e, which Repanse isn't, since she was a 5e character that wasn't brought forward into 6e.

You are basically arguing for Bretonnia being removed because they aren't 8e. That's naive. Bretonnia can get some love to. Helman damn Ghorst got love and nobody knew who he was. Why be opposed to having extra characters in game? The lady could easily bring her back just like the Green Knight. Who cares if she didn't or couldn't, Bretonnia has little lore and giving them the little they have shouldn't be opposed just because you feel they aren't "new enough" since Bretonnia has been dead forever.

Arthas_Menethil#3421

NeverBackDown said:

MrJade said:

NeverBackDown said:

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

So you'd prefer if they just gave up and didn't flesh out the lore like everyone wants? Sounds dumb and boring.

I'd rather a character that isn't dead, long gone, and has no in universe ability to come back. Also playable in 8e, which Repanse isn't, since she was a 5e character that wasn't brought forward into 6e.

You are basically arguing for Bretonnia being removed because they aren't 8e. That's naive. Bretonnia can get some love to. Helman damn Ghorst got love and nobody knew who he was. Why be opposed to having extra characters in game? The lady could easily bring her back just like the Green Knight. Who cares if she didn't or couldn't, Bretonnia has little lore and giving them the little they have shouldn't be opposed just because you feel they aren't "new enough" since Bretonnia has been dead forever.

Ghorst got love only due to the DLCs theme as there was no one else that would have fit unless you want two versions of Mannfred running around.
Issue is Repanse was forgotten entirely by the lore her Dukedom is no longer hers, she doesn't get involved in the Storm of Chaos and End Times events. ONLY the Green Knight ever came back even then he was the FIRST. Repanse doesn't have anything that special that would make the Lady do that afterall she only did one event and is never heard from again and it is way past a humans lifespan so she has to be dead because a peasant becoming a Grail Knight would have been reported and possibly used and abused by knights using Repanse AS an example to get them to fight better/stay longer.

MrJade

NeverBackDown said:

MrJade said:

NeverBackDown said:

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

So you'd prefer if they just gave up and didn't flesh out the lore like everyone wants? Sounds dumb and boring.

I'd rather a character that isn't dead, long gone, and has no in universe ability to come back. Also playable in 8e, which Repanse isn't, since she was a 5e character that wasn't brought forward into 6e.

You are basically arguing for Bretonnia being removed because they aren't 8e. That's naive. Bretonnia can get some love to. Helman damn Ghorst got love and nobody knew who he was. Why be opposed to having extra characters in game? The lady could easily bring her back just like the Green Knight. Who cares if she didn't or couldn't, Bretonnia has little lore and giving them the little they have shouldn't be opposed just because you feel they aren't "new enough" since Bretonnia has been dead forever.

Bretonnia was playable in 8e since their 6e army book was legal. Their 5e army book was not. That'd be as silly as bringing forward some 3e character that no longer matches the tone of the current game. Bretonnian lore changed radically between 5e and 6e, and Repanse wasn't brought into 6e.

So no, I'm not arguing that at all since Bretonnia was a viable 8e army. Repanse was not a legal 6e, 7e, or 8e character.

Nyanko73

They could put Gandalf the Grey for all I care. As long as Valkia and Neferata are in the final product.

Tayvar

Nyanko73 said:

They could put Gandalf the Grey for all I care. As long as Valkia and Neferata are in the final product.

Valkia and Neferata having the edge with being immortals instead of being long dead.

Blaston

As others have said, Repanse is dead and gone long ago, so she wouldn't really work for Brettonia in the present day.

But, based on that great summary in the OP, it looks like she's sort of represented anyway.
The Defenders of the Fleur-de-Lys are ingame as one of the 30th Anniversary RoR for Brettonia, as knights errant with frenzy. Kudos to CA for that one I suppose, they really did dig around for some of the RoR it seems.

So even if you can't play as Repanse, at least you can use some of the successors of her army. Heck, you could probably make a "Repanse-themed" army with them and a prophetess come May.

yst#1879

Any1 has any lore about how repanse died?

Tayvar

yst said:

Any1 has any lore about how Repanse died?

Repanse had born around 500 years before Karl Franz's timeline, so it's not really matter how.

NeverBackDown#9942

MrJade said:

NeverBackDown said:

MrJade said:

NeverBackDown said:

MrJade said:

Aren't we a little past Bretonnia's release? The forum nearly exploded last Feb. because of her. She's dead, let her rest.

So you'd prefer if they just gave up and didn't flesh out the lore like everyone wants? Sounds dumb and boring.

I'd rather a character that isn't dead, long gone, and has no in universe ability to come back. Also playable in 8e, which Repanse isn't, since she was a 5e character that wasn't brought forward into 6e.

You are basically arguing for Bretonnia being removed because they aren't 8e. That's naive. Bretonnia can get some love to. Helman damn Ghorst got love and nobody knew who he was. Why be opposed to having extra characters in game? The lady could easily bring her back just like the Green Knight. Who cares if she didn't or couldn't, Bretonnia has little lore and giving them the little they have shouldn't be opposed just because you feel they aren't "new enough" since Bretonnia has been dead forever.

Bretonnia was playable in 8e since their 6e army book was legal. Their 5e army book was not. That'd be as silly as bringing forward some 3e character that no longer matches the tone of the current game. Bretonnian lore changed radically between 5e and 6e, and Repanse wasn't brought into 6e.

So no, I'm not arguing that at all since Bretonnia was a viable 8e army. Repanse was not a legal 6e, 7e, or 8e character.

Doesn't matter. They could still bring in characters. This is Warhammer being adapted to TW not the other way around. Bring in all the loreful characters. It doesn't matter what age they are. You can argue about tone of game when fact of the matter is it really just doesn't matter. It could easily be changed.

Bretonnia is a special case since they were dropped dead by GW.

Again another analogy is you arguing against content like War of the Beard/Sundering. Just because it was a very long time ago doesn't mean we shouldn't have that content as well? More content is good. Who cares if people died or not. It's a game about fun and you may not like it but you do not have to. Alberic got in the game and he's useless like many other Bretonnian characters in the grand scheme of things, why should we decide Repanse should be dropped out because you say so?