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Tomb Kings Update Patch Notes and Reworking Bretonnia

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  • VincentNZVincentNZ Posts: 953Registered Users
    Yeah I think immortality should only be granted to faction leaders, even of minor factions. What do I need random level 9 generic lords for? I want LLs in my pool, I can level others myself. I think it is stupid to not allow for recruiting the LLs after confed, that is what we confederate for.

    Other than that the patch is rather big, but of course there is still a lot of stuff missing in terms of balance. It seems a decent start, though.
  • LestaTLestaT Senior Member Posts: 3,280Registered Users
    How big will the update/patch size including the TK DLC ?
  • Lord_XelosLord_Xelos Posts: 1,806Registered Users

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase. Stop being an entitled baby.
    How about read some law before making fool of Yourself?
    a) Everyone is entitled to having a 100% functional product. Even a tiniest thing being "not as intended" is a basis for refund or repair (choice is up to consumer). This means fixes and patches are obligatory until everything works 100% fine.
    b) Make video games, not "make bug-infested jokes of a game" which ME currently is.
    c) Providing patches isn't the same thing as actually fixing the issue. Chaos Beeline is the proof of that, since 2 patches already failed to fix that. Results matter, consumers aren't obliged to care how those results are achieved.
    d) You troll bro? Trolling is reportable here, and judging by abuse marks on Your post, that might happen sooner rather than later.
  • ReeksReeks Posts: 1,937Registered Users

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase. Stop being an entitled baby.
    How about read some law before making fool of Yourself?
    a) Everyone is entitled to having a 100% functional product. Even a tiniest thing being "not as intended" is a basis for refund or repair (choice is up to consumer). This means fixes and patches are obligatory until everything works 100% fine.
    b) Make video games, not "make bug-infested jokes of a game" which ME currently is.
    c) Providing patches isn't the same thing as actually fixing the issue. Chaos Beeline is the proof of that, since 2 patches already failed to fix that. Results matter, consumers aren't obliged to care how those results are achieved.
    d) You troll bro? Trolling is reportable here, and judging by abuse marks on Your post, that might happen sooner rather than later.
    Uhm maybe he is trolling maybe not, but he is no more abusive than you are in some of your post´s, seriously dude even the CA people have started flagging you lol, ease up abit, if anyone knows how easy it is to get to passionate about a title its me, but you tend to cross the line a tad to much, just sayin.

    Regards Reeks.
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 20,727Registered Users

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase. Stop being an entitled baby.
    How about read some law before making fool of Yourself?
    a) Everyone is entitled to having a 100% functional product. Even a tiniest thing being "not as intended" is a basis for refund or repair (choice is up to consumer). This means fixes and patches are obligatory until everything works 100% fine.
    Well, that's completely false. You are entitled to get what was advertised. Did CA advertise it as 100% bug-free? Because otherwise you get nothing. Also, since ME was free content you wouldn't be entitled to anything anyway.
    Make video games, not "make bug-infested jokes of a game" which ME currently is.
    Subjective opinion. Many videogames had bugs and were enjoyable anyway. I always bring up the original X-Com as the prime example, or hell, Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines.
    c) Providing patches isn't the same thing as actually fixing the issue. Chaos Beeline is the proof of that, since 2 patches already failed to fix that. Results matter, consumers aren't obliged to care how those results are achieved.
    Well, CA is also not obliged to care that you don't like a mechanic, buddy.




  • LestaTLestaT Senior Member Posts: 3,280Registered Users
    Is it out yet?
  • RikRiorikRikRiorik Posts: 6,506Registered Users
    LestaT said:

    Is it out yet?

    Lesta”Are we there yet”T xD.

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  • LestaTLestaT Senior Member Posts: 3,280Registered Users
    RikRiorik said:

    LestaT said:

    Is it out yet?

    Lesta”Are we there yet”T xD.

  • daelin4daelin4 Senior Member Posts: 16,224Registered Users
    After waiting like an hour after the timer on steam page expired, there is no TK in my new campaign menu.

    Corrected action is the most sincere form of apology.
  • IxusIxus Posts: 190Registered Users
    Would it have killed you guys to fix the Squiggly Beast quest chain bug?
  • MerwanorMerwanor Member Posts: 420Registered Users
    I am sad to see another patch come along and still the Lothern Sea Guards and Ellyrian Reaver units have bugged bow animations.

    Their bows change into Wood Elf bows when they are firing a volley like seen in the images below.







    And this is how the bow should look like.



    Please CA, fix this eyesore. The Lothern Sea Guards are my favorite units, and it just looks stupid when they magically transform their bows into Wood Elf bows.
  • Jewlius_CaesarJewlius_Caesar Member Posts: 101Registered Users
    Bretonnia still need raw power... or moral boost with specialised units. You rely on the player to make cycle charges, but even the charges bonus is not on par.
  • blazehenrysonblazehenryson Member Posts: 77Registered Users
    Dilly dilly
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  • Ares354Ares354 Posts: 1,958Registered Users

    Bretonnia still need raw power... or moral boost with specialised units. You rely on the player to make cycle charges, but even the charges bonus is not on par.

    You know that bretonnia need to have really trash inf, I mean really. But then it will be impossible to play them.

    Most of people here say other faction will get updates, time will tell.
  • MasariusMasarius Senior Member Posts: 616Registered Users
    Great patch, thanks CA! Keep it up :)
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  • GM1986GM1986 Posts: 4Registered Users
    Already a bug in Tomb Kings, in mortuary a multiple craft for new dynasty can't be done even if we got enough ressources.


  • Gr_Ad_KinzGr_Ad_Kinz Senior Member Posts: 1,052Registered Users
    Still waiting for those laboratory updates to be passed down to the rest of the game.
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  • crimsonsuncrimsonsun Junior Member Posts: 390Registered Users
    So I'm still getting the units cancelling orders bug, meaning I have to micro far more heavily than I appreciate because my units can't follow way pointed orders once combat has become engaged up and down the battle line and instead just sit there doing nothing. The orders are showing now (previously there weren't so that's fixed) but they are not following them and instead just sit there out of combat doing nothing or getting shot.
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  • NeverBackDownNeverBackDown Senior Member Posts: 1,824Registered Users

    Still waiting for those laboratory updates to be passed down to the rest of the game.

    You expect them to completely reinvent the rest of the game in 1 month? Don't be absurd.
  • PappyTronPappyTron Posts: 917Registered Users

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase.
    Whilst that is true, it is also true that CA are obligated to make sure that my purchases work correctly. Grombrindal springs to mind...
    "We’ve been playtesting the **** out of every one of the 35 factions on all the difficulty settings"
  • FinishingLastFinishingLast Posts: 4,133Registered Users
    PappyTron said:

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase.
    Whilst that is true, it is also true that CA are obligated to make sure that my purchases work correctly. Grombrindal springs to mind...
    This is pedantic, but you didn't purchase Grombrindal. There are lots of other examples you could use though.
    Later
  • Commissar_GCommissar_G Senior Member Posts: 10,051Registered Users

    PappyTron said:

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase.
    Whilst that is true, it is also true that CA are obligated to make sure that my purchases work correctly. Grombrindal springs to mind...
    This is pedantic, but you didn't purchase Grombrindal. There are lots of other examples you could use though.
    Yes he did. You can't play him without owning the game.
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  • PappyTronPappyTron Posts: 917Registered Users

    PappyTron said:

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase.
    Whilst that is true, it is also true that CA are obligated to make sure that my purchases work correctly. Grombrindal springs to mind...
    This is pedantic, but you didn't purchase Grombrindal. There are lots of other examples you could use though.

    PappyTron said:

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase.
    Whilst that is true, it is also true that CA are obligated to make sure that my purchases work correctly. Grombrindal springs to mind...
    This is pedantic, but you didn't purchase Grombrindal. There are lots of other examples you could use though.
    I was one of the people that got their Grombrindal through the code in White Dwarf, so yes I did indeed purchase him (you could be pedantic and argue that I purchased the magazine and got Grombrindal for free, but that would be an inversion of the truth).
    "We’ve been playtesting the **** out of every one of the 35 factions on all the difficulty settings"
  • FinishingLastFinishingLast Posts: 4,133Registered Users
    PappyTron said:

    PappyTron said:

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase.
    Whilst that is true, it is also true that CA are obligated to make sure that my purchases work correctly. Grombrindal springs to mind...
    This is pedantic, but you didn't purchase Grombrindal. There are lots of other examples you could use though.

    PappyTron said:

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase.
    Whilst that is true, it is also true that CA are obligated to make sure that my purchases work correctly. Grombrindal springs to mind...
    This is pedantic, but you didn't purchase Grombrindal. There are lots of other examples you could use though.
    I was one of the people that got their Grombrindal through the code in White Dwarf, so yes I did indeed purchase him (you could be pedantic and argue that I purchased the magazine and got Grombrindal for free, but that would be an inversion of the truth).
    Then you indeed did pay for him.
    Later
  • FinishingLastFinishingLast Posts: 4,133Registered Users

    PappyTron said:

    It doesn't matter what's base, what's DLC and what's FLC. Races should be "more or less" balanced in terms of campaign power and mechanics (not in battle, I don't mind some races countering others hard).

    Argument "because it's FLC" is not argument.

    CA should just buckle up and do their job, which is making game that is balances and bug-free. But noooo, they'd rather milk us for DLC's than do their job...

    They've already done their **** job. Their job is to make video games. They provide a large amount of patches, and FLC alongside paid expansions.

    You aren't obligated to **** anything after the initial purchase.
    Whilst that is true, it is also true that CA are obligated to make sure that my purchases work correctly. Grombrindal springs to mind...
    This is pedantic, but you didn't purchase Grombrindal. There are lots of other examples you could use though.
    Yes he did. You can't play him without owning the game.
    That’s not how purchasing things works. You can’t play game without Steam either so did you purchase Steam? In his case, he did buy the magazine so I’d argue he did purchase it. Most people didn’t. Purchasing the game doesn’t mean you purchased the FLC. You could argue that you paid for itbecause it funds the development, but purchase literally means:

    pur·chase
    verb
    acquire (something) by paying for it; buy.

    Most people didn’t pay for grombrindal. They entered a code or clicked the download button. You can argue their buying the game paid for its development, sure, but you can’t say they purchased it unless they spent money for it. The verb literally means exchanging money for it.
    Later
  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USAPosts: 18,657Registered Users, Moderators, Knights
    edited February 2018
    Folks, this is an announcement thread. Take the business discussion to Off Topic.
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  • MeanSonOfAGunMeanSonOfAGun Posts: 447Registered Users
    Didn´t know where to put this so why not into the announcement thread for updated Bretonnia...as a feedback if you will...

    I´m quite satisfied with their ecomony now. Even though it is hard to point out exactly where this comes from their overall economic state feels much better now.

    Unit improvements in their skill tree should help a lot. I still haven´t had much of a chance to find out more precisely, I´m about turn 200 now and I´m surely gonna make use of them soon.

    One thing that´s been brought up before. You earn yourself negative traits like "Procrastinator" or even worse "Lazy" way too fast. I´ve had one small army roaming the seas for treasure hunt for about 12-15 turn. One turn after I was back in the harbor to recover from attrition I was "rewarded" procratinator for spending too much time on my home turf. One turn, no joke- are you serious, CA?
  • Paddy234Paddy234 Senior Member Posts: 368Registered Users
    Sorry if this has been asked but is Tomb kings save game compatible as i was already a good bit through my Lothern campaign before the Tomb kings update so was wondering do i have to sstart over for it to take effect???
  • Cactus2Cactus2 Junior Member Posts: 81Registered Users
    You can still play your current campaign but it won't include the new factions. If you want to encounter any Tomb Kings you will have to start a new campaign.
  • LighningstrikesLighningstrikes Posts: 154Registered Users
    CA_Whelan said:

    With Total War: WARHAMMER II - Rise of the Tomb Kings releasing very soon on the 23rd of January, it's time to look at all the tweaks and changes that are coming alongside it! One of our key focuses this time has been a small free update to the Bretonnians, and senior designer Eva Jobse is here to break it down for us. All that plus the full, extensive list of patch notes are available on our blog here ->

    https://www.totalwar.com/blog/tomb-kings-patch-notes

    Hey , CA , i was wondering , will you add some bonus vs Large for dragons ? curently their Armor is pretty weak , and an 1600 gold carnosaur beats a 2400 gold star dragon. it would be nice for dragons to have at least a small bonus vs large , or an armor increase.
    i'm stating this , because in multiplayer , they rarely used , especially in tournaments , because of the nerf to the breath , and the cost increase. , now , all other monsters have better stats/choices.

    also , regarding hydra , could you add poison to his attacks ? after all in the trailer you are clearly stating it dripps venom from their mouths .


    Hydra is not really cost efffective. it doesn't have any bonuses , and it loses to a stegadon , while the stegadon has an artilery on it , and beats it 1 v 1 . poison would probably help it , maybe because of the slow.

    also , Right now , High elves are the worst twh2 faction , because of their lack of armor piercing / bonus vs large.
    dark elves , however , have no slowing capability / or root.

    at least the hydra could have poison..

    thanks and i hope you read the post and maybe think about it
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