Hellebron is Broken - The Cursed Blade is the Problem

Mogwai_Man#4978

Parmigiano said:

Doesn't look that much more op than stuff already in the game tbh.

Even though she'll be doing well in all battles, half the time she'll die early enough for it to not matter.

If they do hotfix this I'd rather they actually wait 2 weeks and add other stuff. Like whichever regiments of renown were too good, magic nerfs, etc.

Uh what other stuff can do that much damage and have that kind of survivability all in one unit model?

tank3487

Parmigiano said:

half the time she'll die early enough for it to not matter.

She is not Ghorst.
She is insanely tanky. Phys Ressistance(that can be buffed with Guardian)+Missile Ressistance+ HUGE Magic Ressistancce with huge hp pool. Do not forget that such ressistances cannot be countered by AP unlike armour. On top of that 80 armour.
Add to this that she is quite fast and have huge mass.

KhorneFlakes

CA_Duck said:

harngerstein said:

There's clearly a lot more nuance than that. Will you restore it if her power level is similar to Queek? Or if it's similar to a Khazrak? Or if she can beat Sigvald in a duel only 90% of the time? The balance team is clearly OK with some lords being better than others, so what relative power level are you guys going to deem acceptable for her?

Edit: I want to distance myself from any animosity towards the balancing team. I am just interested in why you choose to balance things certain ways. It is clear that certain lords are the way they are because of design decisions rather than the invisible hand of post-release balancing.

There are two aspects to it. One is to ensure that the faction internal character choices are all viable and offer unique strengths and drawbacks (if little to no drawbacks, the disadvantage has to be price). The other aspect is faction vs faction balancing, where the goal is to ensure that all factions are viable and that no single faction is clearly dominant. We're really not aiming for perfect balancing, but rather ensuring that the game feels relatively balanced and that the balancing promotes as much faction and unit diversity as possible. Also ensuring that the balancing doesn't come at the expense of faction or unit uniqueness. All in all it is a tricky balancing act with a lot of factors to consider and it is something that we're bound to fall short of at times.

Lmfao. Oh really ....?


Ok then seriously duck ask yourself honestly

Are the old ll item or abilites even or even lords or heroes close to the new wh2 ones....?
Heck you go on about internal balancing
Why is boris picked over most empire lords
Why is Kholek picked over other chaos lords
Why is fay most popular in bretonnia

Yet instead of buffing rest you just keep nerdinh the popular lord(like kholek)
Or provide INCREMENTAL useless buffs

But but when its about nerfing chaos ror its a GIGANTIC nerf
But same logic you excused doesn't applies to other ror huh?

Same thing with magic
Same thing with rosters(chaos knights.,forsaken,exalted hero,manticore,dragonnogres,marauders gw, marauder horsemaster losing to reavers what a joke..etc
And same for other non eleven factions


Buy hey look at the lots of likes from elven group multiplayer must be very hot right now /s

ArchonPrime

KhorneFlakes said:

CA_Duck said:

harngerstein said:

There's clearly a lot more nuance than that. Will you restore it if her power level is similar to Queek? Or if it's similar to a Khazrak? Or if she can beat Sigvald in a duel only 90% of the time? The balance team is clearly OK with some lords being better than others, so what relative power level are you guys going to deem acceptable for her?

Edit: I want to distance myself from any animosity towards the balancing team. I am just interested in why you choose to balance things certain ways. It is clear that certain lords are the way they are because of design decisions rather than the invisible hand of post-release balancing.

There are two aspects to it. One is to ensure that the faction internal character choices are all viable and offer unique strengths and drawbacks (if little to no drawbacks, the disadvantage has to be price). The other aspect is faction vs faction balancing, where the goal is to ensure that all factions are viable and that no single faction is clearly dominant. We're really not aiming for perfect balancing, but rather ensuring that the game feels relatively balanced and that the balancing promotes as much faction and unit diversity as possible. Also ensuring that the balancing doesn't come at the expense of faction or unit uniqueness. All in all it is a tricky balancing act with a lot of factors to consider and it is something that we're bound to fall short of at times.

Are the old ll item or abilites even or even lords or heroes close to the new wh2 ones....?

And most old LL don't even have their own special ability .

ArchonPrime

Like Malekith and Kor-gar,they can pay 76/80 for gaze of malice/sacred spawning of xhotl,but most old LL?80 for foe seeker,huh...

Sarmatianns#6760

Foe Seeker is better than it looks, but most people are reading it wrong.

It is F.O.E. Seeker - Fantastic Overpowered Energizer Seeker.

ArchonPrime

HSK#4606

Well said op, CA keep doing the good job just fix this issue. Let's say this character needs to be in battle with a certain unit for 20 seconds in order the effect to trigger for the certain unit.

Sarmatianns#6760

Help me, Obi Duck Kenobi, you're my only hope.

Translation from nerdish - don't take your time with the hotfix!

AWizard_Lizard

@Sarmatians
Sweet baby jesus, she pretty much solo'ed your army.

Sarmatianns#6760

AWizard_Lizard said:

@Sarmatians
Sweet baby jesus, she pretty much solo'ed your army.

Yup. And while she did spend some time attacking Dryads, most of the time she fighting AP/AL units on her cauldron.