Desert Chariots issues

Itharus#3127

1) These are obviously missile chariots -- yet there are no statistics listed for their missile values, ammo count, etc.

2) The charge bonus is... pathetic. It's 6. Yep, 6. I'm sorry... but a pair of horses pulling a man riding a wooden contraption should seriously have more charge bonus than 6.

Can you please change the UI so that we can see the missile attack values for the Desert Chariots and consider giving them a little more oomph on the charge? Honestly... there's a lot of cavalry that only has a charge bonus of 14 -- which is also mind boggling.

Thanks

MorticiaIuniaBruti#8997

No, its not. Horses of ancient times were much smaller. They become bigger and bigger through Breeding in the centuries of middle ages. They were no Riders of rohan charges. Desert chariots were only used as missile platforms.

Itharus#3127

Take it from someone who grew up on a ranch and has been run into by horses, sheep, goats, and a camel before.

They're gonna have more than 6 charge bonus.

MorticiaIuniaBruti#8997

Today Horses are much bigger than ancient ones. So you cant compare them.

Itharus#3127

Did you not see the part about sheep and goats? You're talkin' out your butt to someone who's grown up around and been run into by a variety of different animals of different sizes.

Next time just say "No, I don't want them to be able to charge because reasons!" -- you'll sound better.

wil07012

Although horses in ancient times were smaller, I'm sure they were still capable of trampling people.

MorticiaIuniaBruti#8997

I have given you reasons.

If you read some scientific history books, you will see, that ancient horses were much smaller and with some exceptions were mainly used as skirmisher cavalry. Also light chariots were used mainly as fast, mobile missile plattforms.

A good, first starting point:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_warfare#Light-weight

Horses in this era weren´t good at charges.

Itharus#3127

Good lord, the assumption.

I know about chariots. I know how they work. I have written a paper on the bloody things when I was in college.

And I can assure you that if 2 (and numidians were known for favoring 4) horses ran into people dragging a cart behind them -- it's GOING to hurt more than 6 charge bonus -- even if the damned things were only ponies.

MorticiaIuniaBruti#8997

I prefer my historical books from real historians above some opinions from a college boy.

You don´t need to reply. I will not read it.

Mallow#3813

I came here for a hint if desert chariots were good to use.
I found this.

Let's just put it like this: A walking desert pikeman has a charge bonsu of 4.

So we do a little experiment, in which Marcus Iunus Brutus will gladly participate: To back his assumptions, he will show us how

A) a person carrying a pike "runs" into him
a chariot carried by time-travelling ancient horses will run him over in their full speed.

He will then (not) tell us why it felt the exact same!