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About the Upcoming Beta Patch

Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior MemberPosts: 12,065Registered Users
In the AMA it was said there'd be a beta patch released soon to specifically deal with the reinforcement bug. However, do they really think that's the only pressing issue?

I want at the very least for this beta-patch to restore those goddamn Skaven/DE loyalty events, too. You released content for a faction TWICE without bothering to actually have all their campaign features functioning, this was a quite literal slap in the face you need to make up for, CA! And the best way would be to actually fix it before you release more paid content.

That's the minimum of effort I want to see.

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  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Posts: 7,648Registered Users
    Literal slap in the face? You mean metaphorical. Unless you're saying a member of CA staff came up and slapped the taste out of your mouth when the content dropped.

    Hopefully they'll fix all of the rather annoying bugs. I'll laugh if they just fix the one.
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  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 12,065Registered Users

    Literal slap in the face? You mean metaphorical. Unless you're saying a member of CA staff came up and slapped the taste out of your mouth when the content dropped.

    Hopefully they'll fix all of the rather annoying bugs. I'll laugh if they just fix the one.

    Yeah, I was wrong to say it like that, it actually felt more like a haymaker than a slap.

  • Commissar_GCommissar_G Senior Member Posts: 9,178Registered Users
    I'm glad they're doing it. It is the most annoying bug to me. People play TW for the big battles, people play co-op and head to head campaigns to increase the size of battles. Reinforcements not working directly impedes the single greatest thing in the TW franchise.

    It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.
    "As a sandbox game everyone, without exception, should be able to play the game exactly as they see fit and that means providing the maximum scope possible." - ~UNiOnJaCk~
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 12,065Registered Users
    They could also implement all the minor fixes from the Community Bugfix mod. Low-hanging fruit, CA!

  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Posts: 7,648Registered Users
    edited August 8

    I'm glad they're doing it. It is the most annoying bug to me. People play TW for the big battles, people play co-op and head to head campaigns to increase the size of battles. Reinforcements not working directly impedes the single greatest thing in the TW franchise.

    It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

    Hasn't it been a perpetual state of semi-broken for a while but only recently flared up into full on inferno of broken?

    Literal slap in the face? You mean metaphorical. Unless you're saying a member of CA staff came up and slapped the taste out of your mouth when the content dropped.

    Hopefully they'll fix all of the rather annoying bugs. I'll laugh if they just fix the one.

    Yeah, I was wrong to say it like that, it actually felt more like a haymaker than a slap.
    Correct, you were wrong. Haymaker's also a really dated term, the cool term is now "bomb".
    The best, most original, and funniest way to troll me is to insult the Ogres.
    The second best, super duper original, and l33t way is to insult me.
    The third best is to say "The Despoiler is a beautiful unit that fits perfectly into the Fantasy setting". Bonus points if you type that without throwing up.
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 12,065Registered Users
    Dave the intern swapped certain map's X and Y coordinates in the TK patch which results in the upside down reinforcements. That's what you get for not paying them!

  • Commissar_GCommissar_G Senior Member Posts: 9,178Registered Users

    I'm glad they're doing it. It is the most annoying bug to me. People play TW for the big battles, people play co-op and head to head campaigns to increase the size of battles. Reinforcements not working directly impedes the single greatest thing in the TW franchise.

    It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

    Hasn't it been a perpetual state of semi-broken for a while but only recently flared up into full on inferno of broken?
    I believe the discrepancy is because it's much less prevalent on the Vortex map. So when WH:2 launched and so many people were still playing the Vortex is went under the radar for a few months.
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  • wunderb0rwunderb0r Junior Member Posts: 18Registered Users


    It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

    Hasn't it been a perpetual state of semi-broken for a while but only recently flared up into full on inferno of broken?


    weird how come i can play with no issues whatsoever?

  • FrostPawFrostPaw Junior Member Posts: 594Registered Users
    I don't see a problem. They are doing something they said is against their work process. Clearly it's a bug that has become a prominent enough issue across everybodies game, that they acknowledge it needs special attention.
  • FrostPawFrostPaw Junior Member Posts: 594Registered Users
    wunderb0r said:


    It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

    Hasn't it been a perpetual state of semi-broken for a while but only recently flared up into full on inferno of broken?


    weird how come i can play with no issues whatsoever?

    Auto resolve will do that.
  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Posts: 3,535Registered Users
    Honestly, I could understand the reinforcement bug having higher priority:

    First, it's apparently a bug that was fixed previously, and popped back up again. That might mean they have a better idea of what caused it and how to fix it without creating more problems.

    Second, the loyalty events bug only applies to two races (and, arguably, the blessed spawning mission bug applies to a third). The reinforcements bug potentially applies to any campaign that is played. People for whom the loyalty event (and blessed spawning) bugs are enough to put them off can play other campaigns until they're fixed, as sucky as it is that it's happening to three of the five races that CA is pushing right now. You can't avoid the reinforcements bug, except possibly by going full elitehammer with lightning strike so you never need more than one stack... and not every race can pull that off.
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 12,065Registered Users
    Draxynnic said:

    Honestly, I could understand the reinforcement bug having higher priority:

    First, it's apparently a bug that was fixed previously, and popped back up again. That might mean they have a better idea of what caused it and how to fix it without creating more problems.

    Second, the loyalty events bug only applies to two races (and, arguably, the blessed spawning mission bug applies to a third). The reinforcements bug potentially applies to any campaign that is played. People for whom the loyalty event (and blessed spawning) bugs are enough to put them off can play other campaigns until they're fixed, as sucky as it is that it's happening to three of the five races that CA is pushing right now. You can't avoid the reinforcements bug, except possibly by going full elitehammer with lightning strike so you never need more than one stack... and not every race can pull that off.

    Did I say "either-or"? I want them to fix both.

  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Posts: 3,535Registered Users

    Draxynnic said:

    Honestly, I could understand the reinforcement bug having higher priority:

    First, it's apparently a bug that was fixed previously, and popped back up again. That might mean they have a better idea of what caused it and how to fix it without creating more problems.

    Second, the loyalty events bug only applies to two races (and, arguably, the blessed spawning mission bug applies to a third). The reinforcements bug potentially applies to any campaign that is played. People for whom the loyalty event (and blessed spawning) bugs are enough to put them off can play other campaigns until they're fixed, as sucky as it is that it's happening to three of the five races that CA is pushing right now. You can't avoid the reinforcements bug, except possibly by going full elitehammer with lightning strike so you never need more than one stack... and not every race can pull that off.

    Did I say "either-or"? I want them to fix both.
    Oh, it'd be great if they could fix all three.

    But I can understand the reinforcements bug having priority. Heck, there are probably players who don't realise that loyalty events were a thing in the first place, so when they are made to work again, it'll be more like a new feature than a fixed bug to them. But the reinforcement bug is hard to miss.
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 12,065Registered Users
    Draxynnic said:

    Draxynnic said:

    Honestly, I could understand the reinforcement bug having higher priority:

    First, it's apparently a bug that was fixed previously, and popped back up again. That might mean they have a better idea of what caused it and how to fix it without creating more problems.

    Second, the loyalty events bug only applies to two races (and, arguably, the blessed spawning mission bug applies to a third). The reinforcements bug potentially applies to any campaign that is played. People for whom the loyalty event (and blessed spawning) bugs are enough to put them off can play other campaigns until they're fixed, as sucky as it is that it's happening to three of the five races that CA is pushing right now. You can't avoid the reinforcements bug, except possibly by going full elitehammer with lightning strike so you never need more than one stack... and not every race can pull that off.

    Did I say "either-or"? I want them to fix both.
    Oh, it'd be great if they could fix all three.

    But I can understand the reinforcements bug having priority. Heck, there are probably players who don't realise that loyalty events were a thing in the first place, so when they are made to work again, it'll be more like a new feature than a fixed bug to them. But the reinforcement bug is hard to miss.
    They need to fix it because they sold content for a race that isn't working properly since January. I don't buy switching them back on being such a hard and complicated matter that they can't possibly fix it in time and have to wait until the next drop of paid content.

  • FraxinusFraxinus Posts: 32Registered Users
    edited August 8
    If I could chime in about the Blessed Spawning quest bug here, I feel like that one should have higher priority than loyalty quests.

    Having played both DE and Lizardmen, here's why.

    Loyalty is something you can get through other means. You can equip characters with items, recruit units for them, win battles with them... there are plenty of other ways built into the system to increase the loyalty of your lords. Loyalty quests just make it easier.

    But Blessed Spawnings... I'm currently doing the final ritual on a Last Defenders Vortex campaign. I got a single Blessed Spawnings quest on like turn 10 (for which I got 3 units of Blessed Saurus Spears) and haven't gotten a single one since. And then there's the Mortal Empires campaign I was doing where I got past turn 150 without getting a single quest. And the Hexoatl campaign where I...

    You get the picture. This is supposed to be a major component of the race, and it might as well be completely missing. There is no other way for Lizardmen to get Blessed Spawnings, and it puts them at a not-insignificant disadvantage when going up against the other major factions who have their RoRs. And this on top of having no DLC / FLC lords or units. FML

    I'm not saying they shouldn't fix all the bugs. Like Draxynnic said, it'd be great if they could fix all three. But my order of priority would be: Reinforcement bug -> Blessed Spawnings -> Loyalty Quests.
  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USAPosts: 15,385Registered Users, Moderators, Knights
    Personal posts deleted but since this seems to be more of a Rant thread, and an an open invitation to rant, rather than a discussion thread this is moved to the most appropriate option.

    As a reminder to the OP, feedback needs to be posted in the appropriate feedback thread, other discussion must be within the Forum Terms & Conditions for location and content.

    Thanks.
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  • NeverBackDownNeverBackDown Senior Member Posts: 1,474Registered Users
    It's the only bug I have come across so I'm happy there's a beta patch..
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 12,065Registered Users
    This reaction tells me the beta patch will only deal with this one issue.

    Disappointing.

  • MarcusLiviusMarcusLivius Senior Member Posts: 425Registered Users

    This reaction tells me the beta patch will only deal with this one issue.

    Disappointing.

    I'm not sure what the forum moderator has to do with the CA developers.
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Posts: 7,648Registered Users

    This reaction tells me the beta patch will only deal with this one issue.

    Disappointing.

    The reaction? One where a non CA employee moved your thread where you claimed to have been punched in the face by a CA employee to this section of a forum?

    Lol.
    The best, most original, and funniest way to troll me is to insult the Ogres.
    The second best, super duper original, and l33t way is to insult me.
    The third best is to say "The Despoiler is a beautiful unit that fits perfectly into the Fantasy setting". Bonus points if you type that without throwing up.
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 12,065Registered Users
    It's amazing that people are so insistent that there should be less patching, simply amazing.

  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Posts: 7,648Registered Users
    It's amazing that people are so insistent on Strawman arguments, simply amazing.
    The best, most original, and funniest way to troll me is to insult the Ogres.
    The second best, super duper original, and l33t way is to insult me.
    The third best is to say "The Despoiler is a beautiful unit that fits perfectly into the Fantasy setting". Bonus points if you type that without throwing up.
  • ItharusItharus Senior Member Posts: 4,625Registered Users
    Vanilla, Eph... you two are THE most argumentative couple I've ever seen. Go have the make up sex already!
  • FinishingLastFinishingLast Posts: 2,464Registered Users
    "A forum moderator with no access to company information or development schedules moved my post. This means we're only getting one fix!"

    "That statement doesn't make sense."

    "Everyone here hates patches!!"

    It's like every statement refuses to acknowledge the ones that came before it and instead of accepting reality just adds in a new false statement.

    The actions of a moderator hold no clues to the beta patch.

    That all being said, of course it's probably just going to be the reinforcement bug. It's CA. And when the new campaign pack drops it could very well break it again.
    RIP
  • harngersteinharngerstein Posts: 546Registered Users
    Itharus said:

    Vanilla, Eph... you two are THE most argumentative couple I've ever seen. Go have the make up sex already!

    And take a long honeymoon while you're at it!
  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USAPosts: 15,385Registered Users, Moderators, Knights
    Thread closed.
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    "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." - Hubert H. Humphrey
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  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USAPosts: 15,385Registered Users, Moderators, Knights
    Thread closed.
    "The two most common things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity." - Harlan Ellison
    "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." - Hubert H. Humphrey
    "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - George Carlin
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