About the Upcoming Beta Patch

TheShiroOfDalton

In the AMA it was said there'd be a beta patch released soon to specifically deal with the reinforcement bug. However, do they really think that's the only pressing issue?

I want at the very least for this beta-patch to restore those goddamn Skaven/DE loyalty events, too. You released content for a faction TWICE without bothering to actually have all their campaign features functioning, this was a quite literal slap in the face you need to make up for, CA! And the best way would be to actually fix it before you release more paid content.

That's the minimum of effort I want to see.

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Literal slap in the face? You mean metaphorical. Unless you're saying a member of CA staff came up and slapped the taste out of your mouth when the content dropped.

Hopefully they'll fix all of the rather annoying bugs. I'll laugh if they just fix the one.

TheShiroOfDalton

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Literal slap in the face? You mean metaphorical. Unless you're saying a member of CA staff came up and slapped the taste out of your mouth when the content dropped.

Hopefully they'll fix all of the rather annoying bugs. I'll laugh if they just fix the one.

Yeah, I was wrong to say it like that, it actually felt more like a haymaker than a slap.

Commissar_G#7535

I'm glad they're doing it. It is the most annoying bug to me. People play TW for the big battles, people play co-op and head to head campaigns to increase the size of battles. Reinforcements not working directly impedes the single greatest thing in the TW franchise.

It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

TheShiroOfDalton

They could also implement all the minor fixes from the Community Bugfix mod. Low-hanging fruit, CA!

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Commissar_G said:

I'm glad they're doing it. It is the most annoying bug to me. People play TW for the big battles, people play co-op and head to head campaigns to increase the size of battles. Reinforcements not working directly impedes the single greatest thing in the TW franchise.

It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

Hasn't it been a perpetual state of semi-broken for a while but only recently flared up into full on inferno of broken?

Ephraim_Dalton said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Literal slap in the face? You mean metaphorical. Unless you're saying a member of CA staff came up and slapped the taste out of your mouth when the content dropped.

Hopefully they'll fix all of the rather annoying bugs. I'll laugh if they just fix the one.

Yeah, I was wrong to say it like that, it actually felt more like a haymaker than a slap.

Correct, you were wrong. Haymaker's also a really dated term, the cool term is now "bomb".

TheShiroOfDalton

Dave the intern swapped certain map's X and Y coordinates in the TK patch which results in the upside down reinforcements. That's what you get for not paying them!

Commissar_G#7535

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Commissar_G said:

I'm glad they're doing it. It is the most annoying bug to me. People play TW for the big battles, people play co-op and head to head campaigns to increase the size of battles. Reinforcements not working directly impedes the single greatest thing in the TW franchise.

It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

Hasn't it been a perpetual state of semi-broken for a while but only recently flared up into full on inferno of broken?

I believe the discrepancy is because it's much less prevalent on the Vortex map. So when WH:2 launched and so many people were still playing the Vortex is went under the radar for a few months.

#57875

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Commissar_G said:

It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

Hasn't it been a perpetual state of semi-broken for a while but only recently flared up into full on inferno of broken?

weird how come i can play with no issues whatsoever?

FrostPaw#5051

I don't see a problem. They are doing something they said is against their work process. Clearly it's a bug that has become a prominent enough issue across everybodies game, that they acknowledge it needs special attention.

FrostPaw#5051

wunderb0r said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Commissar_G said:

It should have happened 9 months ago, but I'll take it I guess.

Hasn't it been a perpetual state of semi-broken for a while but only recently flared up into full on inferno of broken?

weird how come i can play with no issues whatsoever?

Auto resolve will do that.

Draxynnic#3149

Honestly, I could understand the reinforcement bug having higher priority:

First, it's apparently a bug that was fixed previously, and popped back up again. That might mean they have a better idea of what caused it and how to fix it without creating more problems.

Second, the loyalty events bug only applies to two races (and, arguably, the blessed spawning mission bug applies to a third). The reinforcements bug potentially applies to any campaign that is played. People for whom the loyalty event (and blessed spawning) bugs are enough to put them off can play other campaigns until they're fixed, as sucky as it is that it's happening to three of the five races that CA is pushing right now. You can't avoid the reinforcements bug, except possibly by going full elitehammer with lightning strike so you never need more than one stack... and not every race can pull that off.

TheShiroOfDalton

Draxynnic said:

Honestly, I could understand the reinforcement bug having higher priority:

First, it's apparently a bug that was fixed previously, and popped back up again. That might mean they have a better idea of what caused it and how to fix it without creating more problems.

Second, the loyalty events bug only applies to two races (and, arguably, the blessed spawning mission bug applies to a third). The reinforcements bug potentially applies to any campaign that is played. People for whom the loyalty event (and blessed spawning) bugs are enough to put them off can play other campaigns until they're fixed, as sucky as it is that it's happening to three of the five races that CA is pushing right now. You can't avoid the reinforcements bug, except possibly by going full elitehammer with lightning strike so you never need more than one stack... and not every race can pull that off.

Did I say "either-or"? I want them to fix both.

Draxynnic#3149

Ephraim_Dalton said:

Draxynnic said:

Honestly, I could understand the reinforcement bug having higher priority:

First, it's apparently a bug that was fixed previously, and popped back up again. That might mean they have a better idea of what caused it and how to fix it without creating more problems.

Second, the loyalty events bug only applies to two races (and, arguably, the blessed spawning mission bug applies to a third). The reinforcements bug potentially applies to any campaign that is played. People for whom the loyalty event (and blessed spawning) bugs are enough to put them off can play other campaigns until they're fixed, as sucky as it is that it's happening to three of the five races that CA is pushing right now. You can't avoid the reinforcements bug, except possibly by going full elitehammer with lightning strike so you never need more than one stack... and not every race can pull that off.

Did I say "either-or"? I want them to fix both.

Oh, it'd be great if they could fix all three.

But I can understand the reinforcements bug having priority. Heck, there are probably players who don't realise that loyalty events were a thing in the first place, so when they are made to work again, it'll be more like a new feature than a fixed bug to them. But the reinforcement bug is hard to miss.

TheShiroOfDalton

Draxynnic said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

Draxynnic said:

Honestly, I could understand the reinforcement bug having higher priority:

First, it's apparently a bug that was fixed previously, and popped back up again. That might mean they have a better idea of what caused it and how to fix it without creating more problems.

Second, the loyalty events bug only applies to two races (and, arguably, the blessed spawning mission bug applies to a third). The reinforcements bug potentially applies to any campaign that is played. People for whom the loyalty event (and blessed spawning) bugs are enough to put them off can play other campaigns until they're fixed, as sucky as it is that it's happening to three of the five races that CA is pushing right now. You can't avoid the reinforcements bug, except possibly by going full elitehammer with lightning strike so you never need more than one stack... and not every race can pull that off.

Did I say "either-or"? I want them to fix both.

Oh, it'd be great if they could fix all three.

But I can understand the reinforcements bug having priority. Heck, there are probably players who don't realise that loyalty events were a thing in the first place, so when they are made to work again, it'll be more like a new feature than a fixed bug to them. But the reinforcement bug is hard to miss.

They need to fix it because they sold content for a race that isn't working properly since January. I don't buy switching them back on being such a hard and complicated matter that they can't possibly fix it in time and have to wait until the next drop of paid content.

Fraxinus#9211

If I could chime in about the Blessed Spawning quest bug here, I feel like that one should have higher priority than loyalty quests.

Having played both DE and Lizardmen, here's why.

Loyalty is something you can get through other means. You can equip characters with items, recruit units for them, win battles with them... there are plenty of other ways built into the system to increase the loyalty of your lords. Loyalty quests just make it easier.

But Blessed Spawnings... I'm currently doing the final ritual on a Last Defenders Vortex campaign. I got a single Blessed Spawnings quest on like turn 10 (for which I got 3 units of Blessed Saurus Spears) and haven't gotten a single one since. And then there's the Mortal Empires campaign I was doing where I got past turn 150 without getting a single quest. And the Hexoatl campaign where I...

You get the picture. This is supposed to be a major component of the race, and it might as well be completely missing. There is no other way for Lizardmen to get Blessed Spawnings, and it puts them at a not-insignificant disadvantage when going up against the other major factions who have their RoRs. And this on top of having no DLC / FLC lords or units. FML

I'm not saying they shouldn't fix all the bugs. Like Draxynnic said, it'd be great if they could fix all three. But my order of priority would be: Reinforcement bug -> Blessed Spawnings -> Loyalty Quests.

dge1

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Thanks.

NeverBackDown#9942

It's the only bug I have come across so I'm happy there's a beta patch..

TheShiroOfDalton

This reaction tells me the beta patch will only deal with this one issue.

Disappointing.

LuciusCornelius#7004

Ephraim_Dalton said:

This reaction tells me the beta patch will only deal with this one issue.

Disappointing.

I'm not sure what the forum moderator has to do with the CA developers.

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Ephraim_Dalton said:

This reaction tells me the beta patch will only deal with this one issue.

Disappointing.

The reaction? One where a non CA employee moved your thread where you claimed to have been punched in the face by a CA employee to this section of a forum?

Lol.

TheShiroOfDalton

It's amazing that people are so insistent that there should be less patching, simply amazing.

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

It's amazing that people are so insistent on Strawman arguments, simply amazing.

Itharus#3127

Vanilla, Eph... you two are THE most argumentative couple I've ever seen. Go have the make up sex already!

FinishingLast#1402

"A forum moderator with no access to company information or development schedules moved my post. This means we're only getting one fix!"

"That statement doesn't make sense."

"Everyone here hates patches!!"

It's like every statement refuses to acknowledge the ones that came before it and instead of accepting reality just adds in a new false statement.

The actions of a moderator hold no clues to the beta patch.

That all being said, of course it's probably just going to be the reinforcement bug. It's CA. And when the new campaign pack drops it could very well break it again.

harngerstein#5553

Itharus said:

Vanilla, Eph... you two are THE most argumentative couple I've ever seen. Go have the make up sex already!

And take a long honeymoon while you're at it!

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