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How can you hit a unit behind your unit in front in the first place?
You can't.
It's what I don't get about this whole idea. There's no situation where it's useful. Even on the TT you could only do it as Skaven on slaves and then it was 50/50, so it's got no basis in the TT either.
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How can you hit a unit behind your unit in front in the first place?
You can't.
It's what I don't get about this whole idea. There's no situation where it's useful. Even on the TT you could only do it as Skaven on slaves and then it was 50/50, so it's got no basis in the TT either.
But there is, again, you pin down units, and it takes a while for all your units to die
If they can only pin them for 20 seconds, you have 20 seconds of raining doom on them, so yes, there are situations where it is useful. You are wrong.
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How can you hit a unit behind your unit in front in the first place?
You can't.
It's what I don't get about this whole idea. There's no situation where it's useful. Even on the TT you could only do it as Skaven on slaves and then it was 50/50, so it's got no basis in the TT either.
You just gave the example of the basis and then said there is no basis.
The OP even references Skaven in his first post.
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If they pin down enemy, of course they are sacrificing themselves also.
Yes, so ? thats what this is all about? what are you trying to say ?
Thats the whole thing, they are meatshield units, so no one cares about them. They could be super useful if you can have a full fleshed out friendly fire option, where you kill own units, but also enemy.
If only there job is to pin them down for just a few sec, that its worth it. Weapons like warp fire thrower are really strong against infantry, just a few shots can decimate low tier units. I gladly kill my own units for it, if there only job is to pin them down. They are only meatshield units after all
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I believe OP mean "force fire", or order a unit to fire despite friendlies in the vicinity.
Which I believe already exists in the game? Hell sometimes the unit just fires poorly and spear your own men without any specific instructions. (manual fire excluded!)
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How can you hit a unit behind your unit in front in the first place?
You can't.
It's what I don't get about this whole idea. There's no situation where it's useful. Even on the TT you could only do it as Skaven on slaves and then it was 50/50, so it's got no basis in the TT either.
But there is, again, you pin down units, and it takes a while for all your units to die
If they can only pin them for 20 seconds, you have 20 seconds of raining doom on them, so yes, there are situations where it is useful. You are wrong.
That's not how the game works.
Right now if you're hitting the enemy you can fire on them. So your scenario would be allowed right now. The only time you can't friendly fire is when you'd purely be hitting your own troops. When would you want to do that? You wouldn't.
I can't make it any clearer. The only time the game stops you firing is when you'd hit only your own troops. The game is perfectly happy with you damaging your own troops, as long as they aren't the only thing being hit.
Load up the game and see for yourself. I'm perplexed at how you don't know you're allowed to hit your own units as long as you're hitting enemy units.
The key word in what I said was "only" as in "not the enemy". TWW as is currently allows far more friendly fire than was ever allowed in the TT.
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Wouldn't change a thing. Warpfirethrowers don't pierce units, if you blast an engaged unit of Skavenslaves from behind you only hit the Skavenslaves and practically remove your own meatshield. From the flanks you can already hose down engaged enemy units freely. There's pointless evil and then there's just pointless.
Skaven artillery, Globadiers and Bombardiers already don't give a damn about hitting your own units.
Wouldn't change a thing. Warpfirethrowers don't pierce units, if you blast an engaged unit of Skavenslaves from behind you only hit the Skavenslaves and practically remove your own meatshield. From the flanks you can already hose down engaged enemy units freely. There's pointless evil and then there's just pointless.
Skaven artillery, Globadiers and Bombardiers already don't give a damn about hitting your own units.
We agree on this.
We must be super right.
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How can you hit a unit behind your unit in front in the first place?
You can't.
It's what I don't get about this whole idea. There's no situation where it's useful. Even on the TT you could only do it as Skaven on slaves and then it was 50/50, so it's got no basis in the TT either.
Also a 50/50 trade off where you are hitting your units (slaves - both in TT and the game costing nothing) and hitting Chaos warriors/saurus/Swordmasters etc (both in TT and the game costing a fortune) is absolutely worth doing. You just need to turn on your skaven brain.
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Right now if you're hitting the enemy you can fire on them. So your scenario would be allowed right now. The only time you can't friendly fire is when you'd purely be hitting your own troops. When would you want to do that? You wouldn't.
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It's what I don't get about this whole idea. There's no situation where it's useful. Even on the TT you could only do it as Skaven on slaves and then it was 50/50, so it's got no basis in the TT either.
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0 · Disagree AgreeIf they can only pin them for 20 seconds, you have 20 seconds of raining doom on them, so yes, there are situations where it is useful. You are wrong.
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0 · Disagree AgreeThe OP even references Skaven in his first post.
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0 · Disagree AgreeThats the whole thing, they are meatshield units, so no one cares about them. They could be super useful if you can have a full fleshed out friendly fire option, where you kill own units, but also enemy.
If only there job is to pin them down for just a few sec, that its worth it. Weapons like warp fire thrower are really strong against infantry, just a few shots can decimate low tier units. I gladly kill my own units for it, if there only job is to pin them down. They are only meatshield units after all
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0 · Disagree AgreeWhich I believe already exists in the game? Hell sometimes the unit just fires poorly and spear your own men without any specific instructions. (manual fire excluded!)
Corrected action is the most sincere form of apology.
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1 · Disagree AgreeRight now if you're hitting the enemy you can fire on them. So your scenario would be allowed right now. The only time you can't friendly fire is when you'd purely be hitting your own troops. When would you want to do that? You wouldn't.
I can't make it any clearer. The only time the game stops you firing is when you'd hit only your own troops. The game is perfectly happy with you damaging your own troops, as long as they aren't the only thing being hit.
Load up the game and see for yourself. I'm perplexed at how you don't know you're allowed to hit your own units as long as you're hitting enemy units.
@Commissar_G This applies to you too.
The key word in what I said was "only" as in "not the enemy". TWW as is currently allows far more friendly fire than was ever allowed in the TT.
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0 · Disagree AgreeSkaven artillery, Globadiers and Bombardiers already don't give a damn about hitting your own units.
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1 · Disagree AgreeRight now if you're hitting the enemy you can fire on them. So your scenario would be allowed right now. The only time you can't friendly fire is when you'd purely be hitting your own troops. When would you want to do that? You wouldn't.
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