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Why Ungrim DIDNT get mass buff like grimgor?

BjornBjorn Posts: 46Registered Users
Grimgor now is better option for killing monsters and cav than Ungrim, what the heck?
I see no point in it at all.
Ungrim suffers the same problem, but made a buff only to the Grimgor. No sense at all.

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  • MakoTheMakoMakoTheMako Posts: 1,150Registered Users
    Here's a controversial statement: Grimgor is a better fighter than Ungrim.

    die about it

  • Cukie251Cukie251 Posts: 244Registered Users
    edited November 8
    Edit: See below
    Post edited by Cukie251 on
  • PocmanPocman Posts: 1,649Registered Users
    Cukie251 said:

    I seem to recall Ungrim got a pretty big buff to mass last patch. Could be wrong, but if this was the case maybe CA is a little less worried about him in comparison.

    i don't think that is right...
  • Cukie251Cukie251 Posts: 244Registered Users
    Pocman said:

    Cukie251 said:

    I seem to recall Ungrim got a pretty big buff to mass last patch. Could be wrong, but if this was the case maybe CA is a little less worried about him in comparison.

    i don't think that is right...
    You're right I just went back and checked. He only got red ruin. Yeah thats kinda silly then, Ungrim needs to put up more of a fight against monsters than someone like Grimgor.
  • MakoTheMakoMakoTheMako Posts: 1,150Registered Users
    Ungrim is good but Grimgor is "kill every hell pit abomination in hell pit" good. I DO think they both need buffs but this isn't a fair comparison because Grimgor SHOULD be outright better at killing basically anything than basically anyone.

    die about it

  • mightygloinmightygloin Posts: 79Registered Users
    Ungrim is still the king with his mighty 35 MD, paper mass and relatively low hp.

    Mind you i meant the meme king, not slayer king :D
  • PocmanPocman Posts: 1,649Registered Users

    Ungrim is good but Grimgor is "kill every hell pit abomination in hell pit" good. I DO think they both need buffs but this isn't a fair comparison because Grimgor SHOULD be outright better at killing basically anything than basically anyone.

    No.

  • BjornBjorn Posts: 46Registered Users

    Here's a controversial statement: Grimgor is a better fighter than Ungrim.

    speak only in the context of balance, otherwise it is not of particular use

    I know the lore of the universe, but this is a game where balance must be maintained, that's all.

    In fact, these characters were contrasted from the first part and were to some extent clones in the context of their race, but now the difference is obvious and not at all in favor of common sense and balance.
  • Cukie251Cukie251 Posts: 244Registered Users
    Also Ungrims an anti large lord and Grimgor isn't, so really Ungrim needs the mass even more seeing as he should be fighting larger targets.
  • ElectorOfWurttembergElectorOfWurttemberg Posts: 1,345Registered Users
    I'm pretty sure Grimgor beats Ungrim already.
  • eumaieseumaies Senior Member Posts: 2,125Registered Users
    Since infantry never get to actually attack large things in practice, Ungrim has issues in terms of what he’s supposed to be good at it.

    But he’s pretty cheap, making him a less terrible choice than all the other also terrible dwarf legendary lords.
  • AerocrasticAerocrastic Posts: 191Registered Users
    Naked Ungrim costs 1350, and sometimes you might want to take him against Vampirates or Lizardmen, possibly others. Grimgor is still not something you want to take versus anyone really when Wurrzag and Azhag exist. Maybe what Grimgor and Ungrim both need is an -ag at the end of their name to be viable.
  • MTechMTech Posts: 232Registered Users

    Naked Ungrim costs 1350, and sometimes you might want to take him against Vampirates or Lizardmen, possibly others. Grimgor is still not something you want to take versus anyone really when Wurrzag and Azhag exist. Maybe what Grimgor and Ungrim both need is an -ag at the end of their name to be viable.

    Naked Grimgor is also 1350, its not the dwarfs fault that the other melee lords are either overpriced (Thorgrim, Grombrindal) or just useless despite the low cost.
  • ElectorOfWurttembergElectorOfWurttemberg Posts: 1,345Registered Users
    Don't even think the comparison is fair. Ungrim is an AL specialist, Grimgor is a generalist.
  • TennisgolfbollTennisgolfboll Posts: 5,358Registered Users
    Which is why Ungrim needs to be immune to knockdown.
    Read all my replies as if we are having a pint and a good old time. I will always read your reply like that.
  • eumaieseumaies Senior Member Posts: 2,125Registered Users

    Which is why Ungrim needs to be immune to knockdown.

    Pretty much this. And apparently they already have a stat in th game do this?

    You should b able to run from ungrim, but not to cycle charge him to death with large monsters.
  • ystyst Posts: 3,561Registered Users
    edited November 9

    Which is why Ungrim needs to be immune to knockdown.

    CA should stop ignoring foot char and start making them viable.

    What is so frikking hard about giving ALL foot melee characters 80% knockdown/back immunity and charge def vs large.

    Been complained to death since 2016

    +200 mass, +5% hit reaction ignore chance, +5% knock interrupt ignore chance.
    ^ those r from the patch notes, anyway we know long before that they have tools to fix it. And a VERY easy one on top of it. I not a programmer but i know its as easy as +75% to whatever value they have in store for foot characters.

    I mean sure in campaign u want to see ur star dragon throwing a lord 100m away, theres plenty of way to do that, charge at rear, or charge when they r moving and not bracing etc.

    Even in campaign it **** MAJORITY OF THE PLAYERS to frikking see their ungrim, so call slayer lord get bashed by trolls to death just because he can strike back at all
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  • stratigostratigo Junior Member Posts: 263Registered Users
    because dwarves have to suck. They have never made the dwarf lords good except the one they keep nerfing (the runelord) for being the only good one.
  • Louis_1Louis_1 Posts: 280Registered Users
    Ungrim should be at least as fast as slayers as well.
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