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I am dissapointed with new Empire and Dwarf red skill trees. They were perfect. Empire had one skill for infantry, one for knights horse cavalry, one for arty and one for top tier beasts like demigryphs and tanks. And what now?! I do not see any logic. Dwarfs had good stamina skill, one skill for most of the infantry, one for arty and one for choppers. And now there is no logic aswell. Vampire Counts got the best red skill tree now in my taste. Greens are good aswell.
So... that stamina loss reduction is now a 1 point skill available right off the bat if memory serves, instead of a three point skill that you had to unlock first. A lot of skills were consolidated and even reduced in cost. I don't think any were actually removed (except for a few lord specific bugs)?
I am dissapointed with new Empire and Dwarf red skill trees. They were perfect. Empire had one skill for infantry, one for knights horse cavalry, one for arty and one for top tier beasts like demigryphs and tanks. And what now?! I do not see any logic. Dwarfs had good stamina skill, one skill for most of the infantry, one for arty and one for choppers. And now there is no logic aswell. Vampire Counts got the best red skill tree now in my taste. Greens are good aswell.
So... that stamina loss reduction is now a 1 point skill available right off the bat if memory serves, instead of a three point skill that you had to unlock first. A lot of skills were consolidated and even reduced in cost. I don't think any were actually removed (except for a few lord specific bugs)?
Its the inability to focus on a type of unit. Greatswords mixed with Demigryphs is especially annoying. For some LL's like Volkmar it also removed an ability (his cooldown reduction).
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I have problem with downloading patch after I change to coast_beta. Steam just can't finish downloading. Any ideas?
Mine stopped too, wasnt enough room on HDD needed 30ish GB to update.
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I am dissapointed with new Empire and Dwarf red skill trees. They were perfect. Empire had one skill for infantry, one for knights horse cavalry, one for arty and one for top tier beasts like demigryphs and tanks. And what now?! I do not see any logic. Dwarfs had good stamina skill, one skill for most of the infantry, one for arty and one for choppers. And now there is no logic aswell. Vampire Counts got the best red skill tree now in my taste. Greens are good aswell.
So... that stamina loss reduction is now a 1 point skill available right off the bat if memory serves, instead of a three point skill that you had to unlock first. A lot of skills were consolidated and even reduced in cost. I don't think any were actually removed (except for a few lord specific bugs)?
Its the inability to focus on a type of unit. Greatswords mixed with Demigryphs is especially annoying. For some LL's like Volkmar it also removed an ability (his cooldown reduction).
I get the Volkmar thing, pretty sure that's a bug.
I'm not sure I follow the other part though? Now you spend the same points for more skills or less points for higher skills... how's this bad?
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I got an annoying bug whenever I open the Diplomacy Screen: the game doesn't let me scroll the map by moving the cursor to the edges of the screen. I can still zoom in and out, but moving the screen around is not possible .
CA really needs to go through all the old world lords/heroes and make sure they do not remove unique skills or in some other way nerf characters with this change.
Some factions like the Empire really can not take any accidental nerfs, they are already garbage.
Check out the Community Bug Fix Mod on the Steam Workshop.
Its the inability to focus on a type of unit. Greatswords mixed with Demigryphs is especially annoying. For some LL's like Volkmar it also removed an ability (his cooldown reduction).
Yeah it does bug me that if I plan to transition from Halberdiers to Demigryphs with Halberds I’ll end up either having weak swordsmen, spearmen, and halberdiers, or having invested in a skill that buffs nothing in late game.
I got an annoying bug whenever I open the Diplomacy Screen: the game doesn't let me scroll the map by moving the cursor to the edges of the screen. I can still zoom in and out, but moving the screen around is not possible .
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
Do you have a picture of the HE changes?
As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes
I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
Do you have a picture of the HE changes?
As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes
I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
To quote the changelog itself
"Old World character skills update Red Skill Tree Update This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
Is it any an Alith Anar campaign fix? The marked targets for assassination due to the pirate patch are now Sea only lords 2/3 of the time. You cant assassinate or interact with Lords at sea.
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
Do you have a picture of the HE changes?
As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes
I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
To quote the changelog itself
"Old World character skills update Red Skill Tree Update This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
That only references old world lords. Not new world ones. Is the change log wrong then and new world ones were updated too?
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So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
Do you have a picture of the HE changes?
As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes
I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
To quote the changelog itself
"Old World character skills update Red Skill Tree Update This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
That only references old world lords. Not new world ones. Is the change log wrong then and new world ones were updated too?
Yeah I see where the confusion comes from now, it's not worded the clearest, but to clarify:
All lords (both old and new world) have had the red skill trees changed so most are 2-point skills instead of 3-point. If your lord has any points in any of the old 3-point skills they do not transfer over to the new 2-point version of the skill when you switch to the beta.
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
Do you have a picture of the HE changes?
As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes
I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
To quote the changelog itself
"Old World character skills update Red Skill Tree Update This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
That only references old world lords. Not new world ones. Is the change log wrong then and new world ones were updated too?
Yeah I see where the confusion comes from now, it's not worded the clearest, but to clarify:
All lords (both old and new world) have had the red skill trees changed so most are 2-point skills instead of 3-point. If your lord has any points in any of the old 3-point skills they do not transfer over to the new 2-point version of the skill when you switch to the beta.
well nuts.
In that case im not going to use beta untill current campaign finished.
Have to grit my teeth re agents dropping like flies and hope Aranessa doesnt get wiped out
So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.
I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
Do you have a picture of the HE changes?
As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes
I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
To quote the changelog itself
"Old World character skills update Red Skill Tree Update This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
That only references old world lords. Not new world ones. Is the change log wrong then and new world ones were updated too?
Yeah I see where the confusion comes from now, it's not worded the clearest, but to clarify:
All lords (both old and new world) have had the red skill trees changed so most are 2-point skills instead of 3-point. If your lord has any points in any of the old 3-point skills they do not transfer over to the new 2-point version of the skill when you switch to the beta.
just confirming this is red tree (buffs to troops)? another thread is sayign its yellow (personal lord combat stats)
Still doesn't work for my legendary save, now it just won't let me start it. It just crashes when my **** loads. Like come on this update did not fix my problem, well gg
I don't think that most players consider a mere save more important than a skill trees update.
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Have to grit my teeth re agents dropping like flies and hope Aranessa doesnt get wiped out
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