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The Total War: WARHAMMER II Festag Update Beta

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  • ItharusItharus Senior Member Posts: 6,612Registered Users
    Fedor said:

    I am dissapointed with new Empire and Dwarf red skill trees. They were perfect. Empire had one skill for infantry, one for knights horse cavalry, one for arty and one for top tier beasts like demigryphs and tanks. And what now?! I do not see any logic. Dwarfs had good stamina skill, one skill for most of the infantry, one for arty and one for choppers. And now there is no logic aswell. Vampire Counts got the best red skill tree now in my taste. Greens are good aswell.

    So... that stamina loss reduction is now a 1 point skill available right off the bat if memory serves, instead of a three point skill that you had to unlock first. A lot of skills were consolidated and even reduced in cost. I don't think any were actually removed (except for a few lord specific bugs)?
  • ArionuqArionuq Posts: 23Registered Users
    Itharus said:

    Fedor said:

    I am dissapointed with new Empire and Dwarf red skill trees. They were perfect. Empire had one skill for infantry, one for knights horse cavalry, one for arty and one for top tier beasts like demigryphs and tanks. And what now?! I do not see any logic. Dwarfs had good stamina skill, one skill for most of the infantry, one for arty and one for choppers. And now there is no logic aswell. Vampire Counts got the best red skill tree now in my taste. Greens are good aswell.

    So... that stamina loss reduction is now a 1 point skill available right off the bat if memory serves, instead of a three point skill that you had to unlock first. A lot of skills were consolidated and even reduced in cost. I don't think any were actually removed (except for a few lord specific bugs)?
    Its the inability to focus on a type of unit. Greatswords mixed with Demigryphs is especially annoying. For some LL's like Volkmar it also removed an ability (his cooldown reduction).
  • warhammerwarlordwarhammerwarlord Posts: 142Registered Users
    Vampirates get another lord only when their main LL is wounded.

    But when replacement lord is killed and LL is back, they are not making additional lords.
  • kactomordercakactomorderca Posts: 1Registered Users
    I have problem with downloading patch after I change to coast_beta. Steam just can't finish downloading. Any ideas?
  • karge068karge068 Senior Member Posts: 1,162Registered Users

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
  • SagrandaSagranda Posts: 1,556Registered Users

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1588424293

    This might be able help you.
    "Many players cannot help approaching a game as an optimization puzzle. What gives the most reward for the least risk? What strategy provides the highest chance – or even a guaranteed chance – of success? Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."

    - Soren Johnson
  • CelebareCelebare Posts: 40Registered Users
    Sagranda said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1588424293

    This might be able help you.
    If he already lost his points it won't help him. I asked to Drunk Flamingo :-(
  • DaGangsterDaGangster Junior Member Posts: 740Registered Users

    I have problem with downloading patch after I change to coast_beta. Steam just can't finish downloading. Any ideas?

    Mine stopped too, wasnt enough room on HDD needed 30ish GB to update.

    Team Vampire Counts

    "Many players cannot help approaching a game as an optimization puzzle. What gives the most reward for the least risk? What strategy provides the highest chance – or even a guaranteed chance – of success? Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."

    - Soren Johnson
  • ItharusItharus Senior Member Posts: 6,612Registered Users
    Arionuq said:

    Itharus said:

    Fedor said:

    I am dissapointed with new Empire and Dwarf red skill trees. They were perfect. Empire had one skill for infantry, one for knights horse cavalry, one for arty and one for top tier beasts like demigryphs and tanks. And what now?! I do not see any logic. Dwarfs had good stamina skill, one skill for most of the infantry, one for arty and one for choppers. And now there is no logic aswell. Vampire Counts got the best red skill tree now in my taste. Greens are good aswell.

    So... that stamina loss reduction is now a 1 point skill available right off the bat if memory serves, instead of a three point skill that you had to unlock first. A lot of skills were consolidated and even reduced in cost. I don't think any were actually removed (except for a few lord specific bugs)?
    Its the inability to focus on a type of unit. Greatswords mixed with Demigryphs is especially annoying. For some LL's like Volkmar it also removed an ability (his cooldown reduction).
    I get the Volkmar thing, pretty sure that's a bug.

    I'm not sure I follow the other part though? Now you spend the same points for more skills or less points for higher skills... how's this bad?
  • JSJolley12JSJolley12 Posts: 17Registered Users
    karge068 said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
    The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
  • JSJolley12JSJolley12 Posts: 17Registered Users
    Sagranda said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1588424293

    This might be able help you.
    Thank you very much, this worked great.
  • michaeltranmichaeltran Posts: 16Registered Users
    I got an annoying bug whenever I open the Diplomacy Screen: the game doesn't let me scroll the map by moving the cursor to the edges of the screen. I can still zoom in and out, but moving the screen around is not possible .

    Does anyone else have the same problem?
  • Bogdanov89Bogdanov89 Posts: 535Registered Users
    CA really needs to go through all the old world lords/heroes and make sure they do not remove unique skills or in some other way nerf characters with this change.

    Some factions like the Empire really can not take any accidental nerfs, they are already garbage.
    Check out the Community Bug Fix Mod on the Steam Workshop.
  • SephlockSephlock Posts: 1,013Registered Users
    Arionuq said:


    Its the inability to focus on a type of unit. Greatswords mixed with Demigryphs is especially annoying. For some LL's like Volkmar it also removed an ability (his cooldown reduction).

    Yeah it does bug me that if I plan to transition from Halberdiers to Demigryphs with Halberds I’ll end up either having weak swordsmen, spearmen, and halberdiers, or having invested in a skill that buffs nothing in late game.
  • ItharusItharus Senior Member Posts: 6,612Registered Users

    I got an annoying bug whenever I open the Diplomacy Screen: the game doesn't let me scroll the map by moving the cursor to the edges of the screen. I can still zoom in and out, but moving the screen around is not possible .

    Does anyone else have the same problem?

    Yep! And I can't designate war targets.
  • karge068karge068 Senior Member Posts: 1,162Registered Users
    edited December 2018

    karge068 said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
    The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
    Do you have a picture of the HE changes?

    As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes

    I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
  • zmey_gorinichzmey_gorinich Senior Member Posts: 222Registered Users
    Wreck of Shtellhammer: cannot build it even though all pre-conditions have been satisfied. Says, I already have it. i don't.
  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USAPosts: 18,323Registered Users, Moderators, Knights
    Announcement thread folks. Posting bugs and game play questions/discussion will not go anywhere here. Put it in the appropriate area.

    Thanks.
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  • ArionuqArionuq Posts: 23Registered Users
    which is where exactly?
  • CanuoveaCanuovea Posts: 12,753Registered Users, Moderators
    edited December 2018
    Bugs can be reported in the Support Forums. Note the instructions.
    https://forums.totalwar.com/categories/support-area

    Gameplay questions and discussion can go in the General Discussion for Total War Warhammer, but they merit a topic of their won.
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    -Using all caps is the equivalent of shouting. Please don't.
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  • JadawinKhanidiJadawinKhanidi Posts: 674Registered Users
    But don't bother, nobody will read your bug report. Doesn't matter here or in the support forum. Best bet is to post it on Reddit.
  • JSJolley12JSJolley12 Posts: 17Registered Users
    karge068 said:

    karge068 said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
    The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
    Do you have a picture of the HE changes?

    As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes

    I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
    To quote the changelog itself

    "Old World character skills update
    Red Skill Tree Update
    This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
  • CelurinCelurin Posts: 2Registered Users
    Is it any an Alith Anar campaign fix? The marked targets for assassination due to the pirate patch are now Sea only lords 2/3 of the time. You cant assassinate or interact with Lords at sea.
  • FinishingLastFinishingLast Posts: 4,110Registered Users

    karge068 said:

    karge068 said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
    The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
    Do you have a picture of the HE changes?

    As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes

    I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
    To quote the changelog itself

    "Old World character skills update
    Red Skill Tree Update
    This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
    That only references old world lords. Not new world ones. Is the change log wrong then and new world ones were updated too?
    I am incredibly mad and angry at whatever someone insinuated could possibly, but not likely, happen in the WH series today and CA must answer for this with an explanation of why they might possibly, but didn't do this!!!
  • TayvarTayvar Posts: 10,453Registered Users
    CA is finally fixing the skill trees power creep, it's a good news, next the techs will need a fix as well.
  • JSJolley12JSJolley12 Posts: 17Registered Users

    karge068 said:

    karge068 said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
    The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
    Do you have a picture of the HE changes?

    As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes

    I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
    To quote the changelog itself

    "Old World character skills update
    Red Skill Tree Update
    This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
    That only references old world lords. Not new world ones. Is the change log wrong then and new world ones were updated too?
    Yeah I see where the confusion comes from now, it's not worded the clearest, but to clarify:

    All lords (both old and new world) have had the red skill trees changed so most are 2-point skills instead of 3-point. If your lord has any points in any of the old 3-point skills they do not transfer over to the new 2-point version of the skill when you switch to the beta.
  • karge068karge068 Senior Member Posts: 1,162Registered Users

    karge068 said:

    karge068 said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
    The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
    Do you have a picture of the HE changes?

    As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes

    I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
    To quote the changelog itself

    "Old World character skills update
    Red Skill Tree Update
    This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
    That only references old world lords. Not new world ones. Is the change log wrong then and new world ones were updated too?
    Yeah I see where the confusion comes from now, it's not worded the clearest, but to clarify:

    All lords (both old and new world) have had the red skill trees changed so most are 2-point skills instead of 3-point. If your lord has any points in any of the old 3-point skills they do not transfer over to the new 2-point version of the skill when you switch to the beta.
    well nuts.

    In that case im not going to use beta untill current campaign finished.

    Have to grit my teeth re agents dropping like flies and hope Aranessa doesnt get wiped out

    Thanks for the answer
  • karge068karge068 Senior Member Posts: 1,162Registered Users

    karge068 said:

    karge068 said:

    So I got hit with the bug where the game crashes if a VC faction is wiped, so I switched to the beta and that's now fixed (thank you CA) However due to the changes to the red skill tree Kroq-gar has lost all of his points in said tree, and since he's max level, can't get any more. I was wondering if there is something in the works to make it so points would transfer over to the new style of trees, I don't mind if it's a messy fix, I just want Kroq-gar to be good again.

    I thought new skill tress were only for old world factions?
    The blue tree was only changed for old world factions, however the red tree for every faction lord was changed aswell.
    Do you have a picture of the HE changes?

    As far as I can see there is nothing in the patch notes

    I want to know if I should rush and finish current campaign as Im hesitant to wipe my red skill lines
    To quote the changelog itself

    "Old World character skills update
    Red Skill Tree Update
    This major update revamps the Red Skill Trees of the Old World Lords and Legendary Lords in Mortal Empires, adding a host of new skills and updating existing ones to be on par with their New World counterparts. Certain legacy Red Skills have been moved up to the Lords’ Yellow (character) Skill Tree, or have been compressed down into single or double-tier skills now, giving players more bang-for-buck with their skill point expenditure."
    That only references old world lords. Not new world ones. Is the change log wrong then and new world ones were updated too?
    Yeah I see where the confusion comes from now, it's not worded the clearest, but to clarify:

    All lords (both old and new world) have had the red skill trees changed so most are 2-point skills instead of 3-point. If your lord has any points in any of the old 3-point skills they do not transfer over to the new 2-point version of the skill when you switch to the beta.
    just confirming this is red tree (buffs to troops)?
    another thread is sayign its yellow (personal lord combat stats)
  • TayvarTayvar Posts: 10,453Registered Users
    Aizu said:

    Still doesn't work for my legendary save, now it just won't let me start it. It just crashes when my **** loads. Like come on this update did not fix my problem, well gg

    I don't think that most players consider a mere save more important than a skill trees update. :)
  • TayvarTayvar Posts: 10,453Registered Users
    Rikis said:

    Stephince said:

    Unlinking mount requirements will also free up some skill points which is good.

    Missed that part, good to know! Always hated wasting points on unwanted mount.
    Mounts should worked more like items and/or be based on currency only, but it was a improvement.
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