The new beta patch, THANK YOU !

DarkLordD

Absolute LOVE the new beta patch that is out now.

Finally not using skill points more on OW lord on skills that benefit low tier units I won't use in the end. This is something I really wanted and I think I am not alone in this. Now I can finally save some very valuable skill points for my own (roleplay/effective) build I want for my lords. This means a LOT in terms of fun in gameplay for me personally.


C.A. You are doing a fine job lately. a FINE job indeed thank you very much for doing all the things you have done the last 2 months.

Greatly appreciated. Just started a new campaign as the Barrow Legion, and it already feels more complete then the previous old world campaigns I have been doing. Really happy about this one.

Hope everyone enjoys it, its a great stap in the right direction when it comes to the old world factions in Warhammer.

Grom_the_Paunch#8146

It looks good on the notes. Can't bring myself to play the game lately. Tried to play a Harkon campaign just after Vampire Coast launched and was disappointed to find I was too bored to continue after 40 turns or so.

That's an issue with me, not the game. I've put in thousands of hours over the two games and I guess I have burnout. It doesn't help that vampire pirates were never on my radar when I was a table-topper. There was no nostalgia or affection for the faction to keep me playing.

The skill trees update is a big deal to me as they were something that always had a big impact on my playstyle with every faction. (If units didn't get good boosters, they often didn't get used)

Glad the devs are continuing to re-vamp (pun intended) the old world factions. One day I may return and it would be great to have even more wrinkles ironed out.

Tayvar

It was starting to looks like there would never be a proper fix for the skill trees power creep, so it was a pleasant surprise to see that CA is finally starting to make some serious work to fix that.

Theo91#7431

Agreed it’s a nice patch.

Throw in a big updates for grenskins, empire and beastmen (in that order) and the game will be a very fun play indeed.

Aramora1#9111

I also really, really like it. The new talent trees are a cool rework. So many new considerations; and so many saved levels!

And thanks for making the vigor loss talent only a single level. That was extremely helpful.

DarkLordD

Grom_the_Paunch said:

It looks good on the notes. Can't bring myself to play the game lately. Tried to play a Harkon campaign just after Vampire Coast launched and was disappointed to find I was too bored to continue after 40 turns or so.

That's an issue with me, not the game. I've put in thousands of hours over the two games and I guess I have burnout. It doesn't help that vampire pirates were never on my radar when I was a table-topper. There was no nostalgia or affection for the faction to keep me playing.

The skill trees update is a big deal to me as they were something that always had a big impact on my playstyle with every faction. (If units didn't get good boosters, they often didn't get used)

Glad the devs are continuing to re-vamp (pun intended) the old world factions. One day I may return and it would be great to have even more wrinkles ironed out.

I do see your point. The burn out feeling feels very familiar.

May I suggest something ? Best cure for me was ; before VC came out, I didn't play the game for a month anymore after playing it daily for years. I picked up some other games I really wanted to play like assassins creed origins and now red dead redemption 2. It worked wonders.

I hope you find your inspiration back for the game !

DarkLordD

Tayvar said:

It was starting to looks like there would never be a proper fix for the skill trees power creep, so it was a pleasant surprise to see that CA is finally starting to make some serious work to fix that.

Yes ! I felt the same way friend. I think the community kind of pushed trough to CA the last few months perhaps this is a good thing indeed !

DarkLordD

Theo91 said:

Agreed it’s a nice patch.

Throw in a big updates for grenskins, empire and beastmen (in that order) and the game will be a very fun play indeed.

Thats a very fair order of updates. Let's hope they come soon and will be satisfying

steam_164191850448yoMgfCp

I am very happy with this too

now if blue trees could get updated too that would be great for the next patch after this one goes out of beta

DarkLordD

blaat said:

I am very happy with this too

now if blue trees could get updated too that would be great for the next patch after this one goes out of beta

Good to hear your happy too.

We shall have to see:) for how this is a great thing. Something I personally waiting for a long time. I started a borrow legion campaign yesterday wish crashed and deleted the saves. Maybe it was a blessing because today I started over with the new beta patch and I am really hope it fixed the crash problem for me to. If so, an problem turned into a blessing because now I play my new campaign with nice new skills and have a lot of fun with It:)

Kemmler is really cool by the way in his own , new campaign. Love it. Never really realized he has 3 quest items too!! With add a ton of fun in my opinion. It's a very interesting and intriguing campaign so far.

steam_164191850448yoMgfCp

DarkLordD said:

blaat said:

I am very happy with this too

now if blue trees could get updated too that would be great for the next patch after this one goes out of beta

Good to hear your happy too.

We shall have to see:) for how this is a great thing. Something I personally waiting for a long time. I started a borrow legion campaign yesterday wish crashed and deleted the saves. Maybe it was a blessing because today I started over with the new beta patch and I am really hope it fixed the crash problem for me to. If so, an problem turned into a blessing because now I play my new campaign with nice new skills and have a lot of fun with It:)

Kemmler is really cool by the way in his own , new campaign. Love it. Never really realized he has 3 quest items too!! With add a ton of fun in my opinion. It's a very interesting and intriguing campaign so far.

indeed we shall see if CA buffes the blue ones too for now this is really good

Grom_the_Paunch#8146

DarkLordD said:

Grom_the_Paunch said:

It looks good on the notes. Can't bring myself to play the game lately. Tried to play a Harkon campaign just after Vampire Coast launched and was disappointed to find I was too bored to continue after 40 turns or so.

That's an issue with me, not the game. I've put in thousands of hours over the two games and I guess I have burnout. It doesn't help that vampire pirates were never on my radar when I was a table-topper. There was no nostalgia or affection for the faction to keep me playing.

The skill trees update is a big deal to me as they were something that always had a big impact on my playstyle with every faction. (If units didn't get good boosters, they often didn't get used)

Glad the devs are continuing to re-vamp (pun intended) the old world factions. One day I may return and it would be great to have even more wrinkles ironed out.

I do see your point. The burn out feeling feels very familiar.

May I suggest something ? Best cure for me was ; before VC came out, I didn't play the game for a month anymore after playing it daily for years. I picked up some other games I really wanted to play like assassins creed origins and now red dead redemption 2. It worked wonders.

I hope you find your inspiration back for the game !

Thanks Dark Lord. I've been getting back into Dominions, myself. Love that game so much.

I'm sure I'll be back on my chariot one day. Hopefully with further Empire and Greenskin updates to play with.

Selakah#1254

Yup, CA did a great job here and Game 1 races have made a huge leap forward in closing the power creep gap. We are almost there, now if we could get:

• Rites/Army Abilities
  
• Blue Line Parity
  
• Post-Battle Loot Options Parity
  

I think we would be there. On the topic of post-battle loot options, it kind of boggles the mind we are not still there, given how simple this change would be. For example, the Skaven eat captives option restores far more HP than the Greenskin and Beastmen eat captives option. High Elves can enslave captives of any race for replenishment, but Humans and Dwarfs can't? How come the Vampire Coast's dominate captives option heals for more than the Vampire Count's option? Also, don't get me started with the no penalty-ransom captives option for Game 2 races, whereas Game 1 races get hit with a 5% replenishment penalty for doing that.

RikRiorik#9890

Nice patch indeed. Almost made me replay a Malagor campaign even. That’s mighty praise indeed!

But alas I am suffering burnout. Haven’t played anything meaningful after the Vampire Coast update bar a Noctilus Vortex campaign and a Arkhan ME campaign. The last of which was three weeks ago or more.

Foefirelord

Can someone elaborate on what exactly is changing about the skill trees?

I couldn't make heads or tales of the chart image in the patch notes.

RikRiorik#9890

Foefirelord said:

Can someone elaborate on what exactly is changing about the skill trees?

I couldn't make heads or tales of the chart image in the patch notes.

Start up a campaign to see what it means. Most important change is that the personal combat lines (the yellow) change from 3 points needed for most skills to only 2 points. Also that Old World races now have red lines that look like New World races.

DarkLordD

Foefirelord said:

Can someone elaborate on what exactly is changing about the skill trees?

I couldn't make heads or tales of the chart image in the patch notes.

You know how wh2 races have the red skill tree that you don't have to unlock tier 2 to spend 4 in tier 1 ? So you don't have to waste skills on the first tier on units you might not want to spend it on ? Like that, with tier 2 now being a 1 skill point buff for a selection of units like wh2. You know, those really good ones that give a whole range of buffs (good ones too) for a few units at once and only cost 1 skill point.

That's for me the best part. No more spending 4 skill points on swordsman (example) in order to unlock the next tier so you can take the great sword skill buff skill.

SakuraHeinz

I have a awesome crooked moon campaign right now, and the new skill trees really really help.

Boombastek91

Dont forget norska lord can now buff all units. And some red uniq skill compressed in 1 point, or like Ungrim had uniq yellow skills 3 tier compresed in 1 tier but now requir high lvl.
So example Ungrim now had (if conf as grombrindal) at 1 rank units giant slayers 88 attack (include all bonuses and 7 rank too) and 68 dmg vs HE plus 30 anti large. Star dragon just die in seconds.

Almost same situation for dwarfs Hammerers and their arty. Dwarf very strong in campaing.

DarkLordD

SakuraHeinz said:

I have a awesome crooked moon campaign right now, and the new skill trees really really help.

Happy to read that

IT does really help ! it gives some great new opportunities to make the lord different then before. Lovely !

DarkLordD

Boombastek91 said:

Dont forget norska lord cant buff all units. And some red uniq skill compressed in 1 point, or like Ungrim had uniq yellow skills 3 tier compresed in 1 tier but now requir high lvl.
So example Ungrim now had (if conf as grombrindal) at 1 rank units giant slayers 88 attack (include all bonuses and 7 rank too) and 68 dmg vs HE plus 30 anti large. Star dragon just die in seconds.

Almost same situation for dwarfs Hammerers and their arty. Dwarf very strong in campaing.

Nice, haven't seen all the changes. just skimmed trough them.

Sounds good !