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This really was the answer. Could have just /thread after that one.
The idea to remember about the Slaanesh vs. Khorne thing, is that one of them represents martial pride and fervor. The other represents obsession and self interest. The key here is that they both represent radically different aspects of pride. Khorne doesn't care how much you enjoy the killing, he just needs you to seek out glorious combat. FIght the best, win or lose, spread violence and bloodshed but get up and do something.
It's not enough to act with Slaanesh. You gotta enjoy it. A Slaanesh warrior isn't trying to necessarily kill you, he wants you to know he's better than you. He wants to believe it himself. It dilutes the purpose of seeking glory in the first place to Khorne's view. Muddles up what could otherwise be a wonderful day of maiming, burning, and killing.
Hi everyone. I have a question for our loremasters.
Since, if I understand correctly, in the lore each Chaos God has a faction or group of factions who he hates MORE THAN OTHERS (they are Chaos Gods after all...), we get more or less this conclusion:
Nurgle hates Undead in general and Nagash and Vampires in particular for being the antithesis of life, which he tries to preserve in absolutely any form;
Slaanesh hates Elves in general and High Elves in particular for, well, being Elves? As if we needed any other reason to hate them;
Tzeentch hates Order races in general and Lizardmen in particular for being the epitome of stagnation and lack of change;
And Khorne... Who does Khorne hate? Being lover of blood spilling and war, it comes to me as natural that he would hate any pacifist nation with passion; do we have anything even remotely close to this in Warhammer setting? Halflings maybe?
Anyway, what does lore have to say on this?
Nurgle hating undead...Zombie Plague "The plague was a necrotic microorganism that physically degenerated those it infected, causing their skin and internal organs to rapidly rot until the moment of "death" at which time the Chaos energy within the virus reanimated the victim's corpse as a "zombie" whose only remaining drive was to feed on living flesh and so spread the infection."
He who must not be named "hates Elves"..." Slaanesh was not content with the souls he had harvested in the moment of his birth. He continued to seek out the remaining Aeldari, savouring the succulent taste of each soul he claimed."
Tzeentch hating order and lizard men..."Tzeentch is aware of the visions and plans of all mortals in the galaxy. He takes great delight in the plotting and politicking of others and favours the cunning over the strong. When the inner voice in a man's head speaks, when the desperate whisper their prayers into the night, it is the Architect of Fate that listens. He perceives every event and intention, and from this information, his mighty mind can work out how each will influence the future. The intertwining latticework of probability, hope and change is Tzeentch's meat and drink -- without it he would eventually fade away."
Khorne..."He is wrath incarnate, the embodiment of a never-ending lust to dominate and destroy. It is his sole desire to drown the galaxy in a tide of slaughter, to conquer and kill every living thing until there is nothing left but spilt blood and shattered bone."
But this must also be known as well..."Khorne is said to have inherited a martial nobility and honour, and considers the weak and helpless to be unworthy of his wrath."
Let us see how far your sanity can blind you...
This is 40k heresy, isn't it?
The universes are very similar, the races are similar, but technically the two universes are separate, I should think.
Pretty much. 8E shoehorned an unexplained link between the Elves and Slaanesh that meant that Slaanesh still got any unprotected Elven souls despite the Elven pantheon still being around (unlike 40K), but they are separate.
This really was the answer. Could have just /thread after that one.
The idea to remember about the Slaanesh vs. Khorne thing, is that one of them represents martial pride and fervor. The other represents obsession and self interest. The key here is that they both represent radically different aspects of pride. Khorne doesn't care how much you enjoy the killing, he just needs you to seek out glorious combat. FIght the best, win or lose, spread violence and bloodshed but get up and do something.
It's not enough to act with Slaanesh. You gotta enjoy it. A Slaanesh warrior isn't trying to necessarily kill you, he wants you to know he's better than you. He wants to believe it himself. It dilutes the purpose of seeking glory in the first place to Khorne's view. Muddles up what could otherwise be a wonderful day of maiming, burning, and killing.
Khorne want his followers to kill and move to the next target, Slaanesh followers like to torture.
Hi everyone. I have a question for our loremasters.
Since, if I understand correctly, in the lore each Chaos God has a faction or group of factions who he hates MORE THAN OTHERS (they are Chaos Gods after all...), we get more or less this conclusion:
Nurgle hates Undead in general and Nagash and Vampires in particular for being the antithesis of life, which he tries to preserve in absolutely any form;
Slaanesh hates Elves in general and High Elves in particular for, well, being Elves? As if we needed any other reason to hate them;
Tzeentch hates Order races in general and Lizardmen in particular for being the epitome of stagnation and lack of change;
And Khorne... Who does Khorne hate? Being lover of blood spilling and war, it comes to me as natural that he would hate any pacifist nation with passion; do we have anything even remotely close to this in Warhammer setting? Halflings maybe?
Anyway, what does lore have to say on this?
Nurgle hating undead...Zombie Plague "The plague was a necrotic microorganism that physically degenerated those it infected, causing their skin and internal organs to rapidly rot until the moment of "death" at which time the Chaos energy within the virus reanimated the victim's corpse as a "zombie" whose only remaining drive was to feed on living flesh and so spread the infection."
He who must not be named "hates Elves"..." Slaanesh was not content with the souls he had harvested in the moment of his birth. He continued to seek out the remaining Aeldari, savouring the succulent taste of each soul he claimed."
Tzeentch hating order and lizard men..."Tzeentch is aware of the visions and plans of all mortals in the galaxy. He takes great delight in the plotting and politicking of others and favours the cunning over the strong. When the inner voice in a man's head speaks, when the desperate whisper their prayers into the night, it is the Architect of Fate that listens. He perceives every event and intention, and from this information, his mighty mind can work out how each will influence the future. The intertwining latticework of probability, hope and change is Tzeentch's meat and drink -- without it he would eventually fade away."
Khorne..."He is wrath incarnate, the embodiment of a never-ending lust to dominate and destroy. It is his sole desire to drown the galaxy in a tide of slaughter, to conquer and kill every living thing until there is nothing left but spilt blood and shattered bone."
But this must also be known as well..."Khorne is said to have inherited a martial nobility and honour, and considers the weak and helpless to be unworthy of his wrath."
Let us see how far your sanity can blind you...
This is 40k heresy, isn't it?
The universes are very similar, the races are similar, but technically the two universes are separate, I should think.
Hi everyone. I have a question for our loremasters.
Since, if I understand correctly, in the lore each Chaos God has a faction or group of factions who he hates MORE THAN OTHERS (they are Chaos Gods after all...), we get more or less this conclusion:
Nurgle hates Undead in general and Nagash and Vampires in particular for being the antithesis of life, which he tries to preserve in absolutely any form;
Slaanesh hates Elves in general and High Elves in particular for, well, being Elves? As if we needed any other reason to hate them;
Tzeentch hates Order races in general and Lizardmen in particular for being the epitome of stagnation and lack of change;
And Khorne... Who does Khorne hate? Being lover of blood spilling and war, it comes to me as natural that he would hate any pacifist nation with passion; do we have anything even remotely close to this in Warhammer setting? Halflings maybe?
Anyway, what does lore have to say on this?
Nurgle hating undead...Zombie Plague "The plague was a necrotic microorganism that physically degenerated those it infected, causing their skin and internal organs to rapidly rot until the moment of "death" at which time the Chaos energy within the virus reanimated the victim's corpse as a "zombie" whose only remaining drive was to feed on living flesh and so spread the infection."
He who must not be named "hates Elves"..." Slaanesh was not content with the souls he had harvested in the moment of his birth. He continued to seek out the remaining Aeldari, savouring the succulent taste of each soul he claimed."
Tzeentch hating order and lizard men..."Tzeentch is aware of the visions and plans of all mortals in the galaxy. He takes great delight in the plotting and politicking of others and favours the cunning over the strong. When the inner voice in a man's head speaks, when the desperate whisper their prayers into the night, it is the Architect of Fate that listens. He perceives every event and intention, and from this information, his mighty mind can work out how each will influence the future. The intertwining latticework of probability, hope and change is Tzeentch's meat and drink -- without it he would eventually fade away."
Khorne..."He is wrath incarnate, the embodiment of a never-ending lust to dominate and destroy. It is his sole desire to drown the galaxy in a tide of slaughter, to conquer and kill every living thing until there is nothing left but spilt blood and shattered bone."
But this must also be known as well..."Khorne is said to have inherited a martial nobility and honour, and considers the weak and helpless to be unworthy of his wrath."
Let us see how far your sanity can blind you...
This is 40k heresy, isn't it?
The universes are very similar, the races are similar, but technically the two universes are separate, I should think.
Were they really separate?..
There are several things that makes them seperate. The main link between the two is chaos, but there are differences in how chaos is portrayed in the two. For example, chaos has clear origin in 40k, while in fantasy it is seen as eternal/timeless.
Hi everyone. I have a question for our loremasters.
Since, if I understand correctly, in the lore each Chaos God has a faction or group of factions who he hates MORE THAN OTHERS (they are Chaos Gods after all...), we get more or less this conclusion:
Nurgle hates Undead in general and Nagash and Vampires in particular for being the antithesis of life, which he tries to preserve in absolutely any form;
Slaanesh hates Elves in general and High Elves in particular for, well, being Elves? As if we needed any other reason to hate them;
Tzeentch hates Order races in general and Lizardmen in particular for being the epitome of stagnation and lack of change;
And Khorne... Who does Khorne hate? Being lover of blood spilling and war, it comes to me as natural that he would hate any pacifist nation with passion; do we have anything even remotely close to this in Warhammer setting? Halflings maybe?
Anyway, what does lore have to say on this?
Nurgle hating undead...Zombie Plague "The plague was a necrotic microorganism that physically degenerated those it infected, causing their skin and internal organs to rapidly rot until the moment of "death" at which time the Chaos energy within the virus reanimated the victim's corpse as a "zombie" whose only remaining drive was to feed on living flesh and so spread the infection."
He who must not be named "hates Elves"..." Slaanesh was not content with the souls he had harvested in the moment of his birth. He continued to seek out the remaining Aeldari, savouring the succulent taste of each soul he claimed."
Tzeentch hating order and lizard men..."Tzeentch is aware of the visions and plans of all mortals in the galaxy. He takes great delight in the plotting and politicking of others and favours the cunning over the strong. When the inner voice in a man's head speaks, when the desperate whisper their prayers into the night, it is the Architect of Fate that listens. He perceives every event and intention, and from this information, his mighty mind can work out how each will influence the future. The intertwining latticework of probability, hope and change is Tzeentch's meat and drink -- without it he would eventually fade away."
Khorne..."He is wrath incarnate, the embodiment of a never-ending lust to dominate and destroy. It is his sole desire to drown the galaxy in a tide of slaughter, to conquer and kill every living thing until there is nothing left but spilt blood and shattered bone."
But this must also be known as well..."Khorne is said to have inherited a martial nobility and honour, and considers the weak and helpless to be unworthy of his wrath."
Let us see how far your sanity can blind you...
This is 40k heresy, isn't it?
The universes are very similar, the races are similar, but technically the two universes are separate, I should think.
Were they really separate?..
There are several things that makes them seperate. The main link between the two is chaos, but there are differences in how chaos is portrayed in the two. For example, chaos has clear origin in 40k, while in fantasy it is seen as eternal/timeless.
Not just chaos...but enough threads have been created based upon what is being argued now...
Plus I doubt Tzeentch would allow me to type any further towards mortals who clearly "don't know"...
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The idea to remember about the Slaanesh vs. Khorne thing, is that one of them represents martial pride and fervor. The other represents obsession and self interest. The key here is that they both represent radically different aspects of pride. Khorne doesn't care how much you enjoy the killing, he just needs you to seek out glorious combat. FIght the best, win or lose, spread violence and bloodshed but get up and do something.
It's not enough to act with Slaanesh. You gotta enjoy it. A Slaanesh warrior isn't trying to necessarily kill you, he wants you to know he's better than you. He wants to believe it himself. It dilutes the purpose of seeking glory in the first place to Khorne's view. Muddles up what could otherwise be a wonderful day of maiming, burning, and killing.
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