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charlemagne excuses dropped into "Bullsh*t "level the moment when TK DLC was released...now it's just CA lazy and people that believe that creating a model would mean bankrupt for CA even if Warhammer 2 is like the richest game CA has ever made
It was nonsense way before that, when the Wood Elves hit the market if you ask me.
I was expecting another funny but bitter meme thread campaigning for the Jabberslythe. I'm very surprised, happy, sad and exasperated all at once. I wasn't really interested in Chaosbane, but now however I think I might get it when it releases, cannot help but wonder if some of its developers are sad TW Warhammer fans themselves.
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CA is really good at 'make cheap and sell expensive' stuff. Charlemagnes for the Charlemagne throne. Much Joyeuse.
I want this beautiful Jabba thing and flying Malagor. Also I'll take Stone, River and Chaos trolls for Throgg. I don't mind Chaos ones getting new textures or remodel to set them apart from WoC bunch. In fact I think I need to make a thread about it. More trolls for the king of trolls.
I bet all of you people complaining about the Charlemange excuse don't even know that CA didn't say that developing the Jabberslythe would cost as much as developing the Charlemange campaign pack.
I bet all of you people complaining about the Charlemange excuse don't even know that CA didn't say that developing the Jabberslythe would cost as much as developing the Charlemange campaign pack.
Direct quote:
"For example, adding the Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne. "
Now go back to r/iamverysmart.
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I bet all of you people complaining about the Charlemange excuse don't even know that CA didn't say that developing the Jabberslythe would cost as much as developing the Charlemange campaign pack.
Direct quote:
"For example, adding the Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne. "
"Many players cannot help approaching a game as an optimization puzzle. What gives the most reward for the least risk? What strategy provides the highest chance – or even a guaranteed chance – of success? Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."
I bet all of you people complaining about the Charlemange excuse don't even know that CA didn't say that developing the Jabberslythe would cost as much as developing the Charlemange campaign pack.
Direct quote:
"For example, adding the Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne. "
Now go back to r/iamverysmart.
yes. But others have misquoted that as the Jabberslythe costing as much as Age of Charlemagne. And the meme is used doesn't help in anyway to not increase the believe that this is meant.
Also, DLC have a budget... unfortunate, yes, but it wouldnt be hard to believe that Beastmen had the smallest Campaign pack Budget.
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Don't think anyone in this thread actually said "whole Charlemange DLC". People just use "Charlemange" as a new merit because everyone knows the context.
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Don't think anyone in this thread actually said "whole Charlemange DLC". People just use "Charlemange" as a new merit because everyone knows the context.
no. 've seen, not in this thread but other places, this forum as well, enough people who just latched on the "Charlemagne" without actually knowing the whole context. even when the meme was still RELATIVELY young i've seen somebody claiming that "CA claims the Jabberslythe would be as expensive as Age of Charlemagne!"
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It doesn't have very good animations. No tongue attack. I guess it is fine, though.
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Don't think anyone in this thread actually said "whole Charlemange DLC". People just use "Charlemange" as a new merit because everyone knows the context.
no. 've seen, not in this thread but other places, this forum as well, enough people who just latched on the "Charlemagne" without actually knowing the whole context. even when the meme was still RELATIVELY young i've seen somebody claiming that "CA claims the Jabberslythe would be as expensive as Age of Charlemagne!"
Well, that doesn't make CA's excuse better in any way though.
Demand more love for Empire, Greenskins and Beastmen! Playable Middenland with Cult of Ulric! Expanded Beastmen roster with Ghorgon and Jabberslythe! Bring back Black Orcs variants and Orc Big Boss heroes!
Don't think anyone in this thread actually said "whole Charlemange DLC". People just use "Charlemange" as a new merit because everyone knows the context.
It's an old meme. Like all old meme's its original purpose has slowly been eroded till it is nothing but a husk.
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C'mon CA! This small team created over 70 monsters and units for their game. Jabber included. That's right, the charlemagnes thing apparently more expensive than all the Tomb Kings and Coast monsters... Open your eyes and give some love to the Beastmen, the most neglected race of the game!
Don't think anyone in this thread actually said "whole Charlemange DLC". People just use "Charlemange" as a new merit because everyone knows the context.
It's an old meme. Like all old meme's its original purpose has slowly been eroded till it is nothing but a husk.
Would you pay on a micro-transaction basis? $1 for a jabber, $1 for ghorgon and wargor?
Might be tough getting everyone’s games to match for multiplayer tho...
I would. I actually said day one on the Steam boards that we would never, ever have had decently complete rosters and factions without at least some kind of microtransaction model (not necessarily single units, but multiple packs). And here we are, I was right.
Now, I understand why people reach for their gun when they hear the very word, but a sensible store-like approach would have resulted in a far more interesting game.
charlemagne excuses dropped into "Bullsh*t "level the moment when TK DLC was released...now it's just CA lazy and people that believe that creating a model would mean bankrupt for CA even if Warhammer 2 is like the richest game CA has ever made
This was already clear with the Hell Pit abomination and the CA staff even make free great animation can be seen at the fights. LIke (Malekith vs Tyrion)
charlemagne excuses dropped into "Bullsh*t "level the moment when TK DLC was released...now it's just CA lazy and people that believe that creating a model would mean bankrupt for CA even if Warhammer 2 is like the richest game CA has ever made
Well, they said that it would have costed as much as the whole *art budget* of Charlemagne. Which is quite believable, as every single Charlemagne unit was a reskin of something already existing in Attila. It actually points out how cheap to make is historical content.
Would you pay on a micro-transaction basis? $1 for a jabber, $1 for ghorgon and wargor?
Might be tough getting everyone’s games to match for multiplayer tho...
No.
Because it's bad enough I paid full price for that cack Race Pack in the first place, without asking me to pay extra to give it a roster that's actually worth the price.
I bet all of you people complaining about the Charlemange excuse don't even know that CA didn't say that developing the Jabberslythe would cost as much as developing the Charlemange campaign pack.
Direct quote:
"For example, adding the Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne. "
Now go back to r/iamverysmart.
Thank you for posting a quote to explicitly prove my point.
I have never posted on or visited reddit, so I don’t get the significance of what I assume is some sort of slight against me.
It doesn't have very good animations. No tongue attack. I guess it is fine, though.
its alpha version
That is good then, because it would be very disappointing.
The modelling and animating is also probably quite a bit different between the two games.
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It's pretty easy to laud the Jabberslythe when the game will probably only include units from WoC, DoC and BM and a pinch of Empire not much more beyond that at all. Wouldn't trade the TWWH rosters for that.
Don't think anyone in this thread actually said "whole Charlemange DLC". People just use "Charlemange" as a new merit because everyone knows the context.
no. 've seen, not in this thread but other places, this forum as well, enough people who just latched on the "Charlemagne" without actually knowing the whole context. even when the meme was still RELATIVELY young i've seen somebody claiming that "CA claims the Jabberslythe would be as expensive as Age of Charlemagne!"
Well, that doesn't make CA's excuse better in any way though.
It wasn’t CA’s excuse. The excuse was that it wasn’t within their budget to make the Jadderslythe in the Beastmen DLC, as the DLC was already expensive to make. The Jadderslythe remark was simply CA providing an example of how much more expensive these units are to make than the content of their previous games. I "Regarding the pricing of the DLC ($19 when the pre-order discount goes away), CA state that “Call of the Beastmen required around three times more content and effort than previous large DLCs we’ve done”. They cite the number of new creature models, and animations, plus the creation of the separate campaign as costly endeavours. In fact, cost is also the reason given for the lack of Ghorgons/Jabbers/Harpies in the Beastman roster. “The Jabberslythe alone would have been as costly as all the artwork that went into Charlemagne,” they suggest."
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C'mon CA! This small team created over 70 monsters and units for their game. Jabber included. That's right, the charlemagnes thing apparently more expensive than all the Tomb Kings and Coast monsters...
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