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Future Lord Packs - all the possible units, heroes, lords, LLs and LHs (merged #3)

Gotrek_BeastslayerGotrek_Beastslayer Registered Users Posts: 1,569
Good day, mortals!

Recently CA amazed us with the confirmations of muuuuuuch more new contents are coming, oh oh like a lot of goodies. :#

We all know that CA can use all the GW material they want in order to add stuff like units, LLs (White Dwarf, Forge World, Older Army-Books...) ...so...let's see what the future holds, bois!

Game Director, Rich_A_CA statement:

  • WARNING: I'd like to advice ya all that this thread is a *work-in-progress* . I'm running out of time, so i'll add all the rest ASAP. ;)

UPDATED THREAD N.4 - LIST

Dark Elves
  • added Manflayers
  • added Devoted of Slaanesh
  • added Slaanesh Marked Dark Elves
High Elves
  • added War Lions of Chrace
Skaven
  • added Rotten Rodents
  • added Armoured Rat Ogres
  • added Mutant Rat Ogres
  • added Stormfiends: Shock Gauntlets - Doom Flayer Gauntlets
Beastmen
  • added Marked Minotaurs
Empire
  • removed Amethyst Wizard
WoC & Norsca
  • added Styrkaar of the Sortsvinaer
Tomb Kings
  • List of units - heroes - lords
  • List of LLs and LHs

LIZARDMEN - units, lords, heroes

LIZARDMEN LLS - very important

  • Surprise! With the strategic move to implement Lord Kroak as LH (Legendary Hero) CA opened a hell of a door for the addition of new LLs (Legendary Lords).
  • Why? Ehehe, i'd like to remember you that Kroak is a Lord in the TT Game. That means...Heroes in the TT Game could be LLs in WH2 and vice versa. Amazing!
  • And the same goes for Tiktaq'to. The living Millennium Falcon-boi is a Hero in the TT Game...buuuuut he's a LL in WH2 ;)

Here are the possible LIzzy's LLs and LHs:

  • Gor-Rok

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gor-Rok
  • Nakai
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Nakai
  • Oxyotl
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Oxyotl
  • Tetto'eko
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tetto'eko
  • Chakax The Eternity Warden
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Chakax

Dark Elves - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Druchii's LLs and LHs:

  • Malus Darkblade
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Malus_Darkblade
  • Shadowblade
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Shadowblade
  • Kouran Darkhand
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Kouran_Darkhand
  • Tullaris Deadbringer
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tullaris_Dreadbringer
  • Beastlord Rakhart
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Raka
  • Urian Poisonblade
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Urian_Poisonblade

Skaven - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Skaven's LLs and LHs:

  • Thanquol & Boneripper
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Thanquol
  • Throt The Unclean
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Throt_the_Unclean
  • Ghoritch
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ghoritch
  • Skweel Gnawtooth
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Skweel_Gnawtooth
  • Skreech Verminking
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Skreech_Verminking
  • Deathmaster Snikch
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Snikch

High Elves - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible High Elves' LLs and LHs:

  • Eltharion The Grim
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Eltharion
  • Caradryan
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Caradryan
  • Prince Imrik
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Imrik
  • Belannaer The Wise
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Belannaer
  • Korhil
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Korhil

The Case for the Cross-Game LPs and the Old World Races

  • That's right, mortals! The chances to see Cross-Game LPs, also known as WH1 vs WH2, are increased thanks to recent holy news. Ex. Skaven vs Empire - Beastmen vs Dark Elves.
Cross-Game Lord Pack ----> The Tyrant & The Sire (list and pics):

  • Let's start with mah favorite race >:)

Beastmen - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Beasties' LLs and LHs:

  • Ghorros Warhoof
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ghorros_Warhoof
  • Moonclaw
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Moonclaw
  • Taurox The Brass Bull
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Taurox
  • Gorthor The Cruel
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gorthor
  • Molokh Slugtongue
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Slugtongue

Greenskin - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Greenskin's LLs and LHs:

  • Grom the Paunch
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Grom_the_Paunch
  • Gorbad Ironclaw
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gorbad_Ironclaw
  • Gorfang Rotgut
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gorfang_Rotgut
  • Borgut Facebeater
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Borgut_Facebeater
  • Snagla Grobspit
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Snagla_Grobspit

The Empire - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Empire's LLs and LHs:

  • Kurt Helborg
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Kurt_Helborg
  • Ludwig Schwarzhelm
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ludwig_Schwarzhelm
  • Markus Wulfhart
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Markus_Wulfhart
  • Marius Leitdorf
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Marius_Leitdorf
  • Elspeth von Draken
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Elspeth_von_Draken

Wood Elves - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Wood Elves' LLs and LHs:

  • Ariel
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ariel
  • Araloth the Bold
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Araloth
  • Naestra and Arahan, the Sisters of Twilight
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Naestra_and_Arahan
  • Drycha
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Drycha

Warriors of Chaos United & Norsca - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Warriors of Chaos United & Norsca's LLs and LHs:

Many of these LLs and LHs are Monogods related and others are not listed, like ---> Gutrot Spume, Glottkin, Maggotkins, Valkia, Haargroth, Melekh, Egrimm, Styrkaar etc. etc. too many! :D
  • Vardek Crom the Conqueror
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Vardek_Crom_the_Conqueror
  • Egil Styrbjorn
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Egil_Styrbjorn
  • Arbaal the Undefeated
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Arbaal_the_Undefeated
  • Tamurkhan the Maggot Lord
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tamurkhan
  • Vilitch the Curseling
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Vilitch_the_Curseling
  • Sayl the Faithless & Nightmaw
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Sayl_the_Faithless

https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/877297-Night Maw.html
  • Styrkaar of the Sortsvinaer
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Styrkaar_of_the_Sortsvinaer
  • Be'lakor the Dark Master
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Be'lakor

Vampire Counts - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Vampire Counts LLs and LHs:

  • Konrad von Carstein
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Konrad_von_Carstein
  • Neferata (Mortarch of Blood - could also be a LL of the Legion of Nagash)
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Neferata
  • W'soran
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/W'soran
  • Zacharias the Everliving
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Zacharias_the_Everliving

Dwarfs - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Dwarfs' LLs and LHs:

  • Josef Bugman
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Josef_Bugman
  • Thorek Ironbrow
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Thorek_Ironbrow
  • Grimm Burloksson
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Grimm_Burloksson
  • Also Me
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gotrek_and_Felix

Tomb Kings - units, lords, heroes


Here are the possible Tomb Kings' LLs and LHs:

  • Herald Nekaph
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Nekaph
  • Apophas
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Apophas
  • Ramhotep The Visionary
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ramhotep

That's all for today, folks!

Please, feel free to post or cite all the units, heroes, lords and LLs etc. that i've missed. :) I'll continue this thread with Vamp Coast...ASAP!

Thank you again CA for this amazing news! Thanks a lot! Jeez- i'm in a party-mood for days :D
#JusticeForTzeentch #JusticeForMonogods



WH Novels:

- Vampire Wars: The Von Carstein Trilogy: 10/10
- Gilead's Blood: 8/10
- Riders of the Dead: 9/10
- Empire in Chaos: 9/10
- Mark of Damnation: 7.5/10
- Mark of Heresy: 7/10
- G&F: Trollslayer: 8/10 (re-read)
- G&F: Skavenslayer: 9.5/10
- G&F: Daemonslayer: 10/10
- G&F: Dragonslayer: 8/10
- G&F: Beastslayer: 7.5/10
- G&F: Vampireslayer: 7/10
- G&F: Giantslayer: 7.5/10
- The Chronicles of Malus Darkblade vol. one: 8.5/10
- Drachenfels: 6.5/10
- Genevìeve Undead: 7.5/10
- Silver Nails: 9.5/10
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Comments

  • vie_dragonvie_dragon Registered Users Posts: 168
    This thread is a lot better than the other one. Congratz on making it, just wanted to tell you that before actually reading your fuckhuge post.

    I shall edit this when I actually read it to further discuss the topic.
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 30,130
    It really shows how little TWW2 races have left. The Skaven have the most then it's HE 2nd and sweet not much after that.

    I'm really hoping for a HE/Orc LP. That'd be sweet.
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  • Gotrek_BeastslayerGotrek_Beastslayer Registered Users Posts: 1,569

    This thread is a lot better than the other one. Congratz on making it, just wanted to tell you that before actually reading your fuckhuge post.

    I shall edit this when I actually read it to further discuss the topic.

    And this isn't even his final form - cit.



    Thank ya' i'll try to complete everything ASAP...prolly tomorrow. But there's a lot of stuff...if i've missed some units, a LL etc, please, feel free to say it and post it...if possible o:)
    #JusticeForTzeentch #JusticeForMonogods



    WH Novels:

    - Vampire Wars: The Von Carstein Trilogy: 10/10
    - Gilead's Blood: 8/10
    - Riders of the Dead: 9/10
    - Empire in Chaos: 9/10
    - Mark of Damnation: 7.5/10
    - Mark of Heresy: 7/10
    - G&F: Trollslayer: 8/10 (re-read)
    - G&F: Skavenslayer: 9.5/10
    - G&F: Daemonslayer: 10/10
    - G&F: Dragonslayer: 8/10
    - G&F: Beastslayer: 7.5/10
    - G&F: Vampireslayer: 7/10
    - G&F: Giantslayer: 7.5/10
    - The Chronicles of Malus Darkblade vol. one: 8.5/10
    - Drachenfels: 6.5/10
    - Genevìeve Undead: 7.5/10
    - Silver Nails: 9.5/10
  • YrellianYrellian Registered Users Posts: 1,899
    Urian Poisonblade is long dead I think, but you missed the most probable (IMHO) lord pack LL, Beastlord Rakarth. Why would they go for someone with rules from 4th edition? Well he does fit perfectly with the missing units. He can bring High Beastmasters as Lord option, Scourgerunner Chariots and Medusa + her chariot. Malus would make perfect sence as a FLC lord.

    His Royal Highness, Phoenix King Finubar!

    "It has been too long since I drew a blade in anger, Tyrion. You have been my sword, and Teclis has been my shield. But now it is time I fought my own battles!"

    I used to be crazycrix, then Epic happened and I became Dubinekdubajs, which I had to change again😀
  • BrightestLightBrightestLight Registered Users Posts: 548
    Excellent list, comprehensive. I can't wait to see the rest. As a tt fan it was great to be reminded of some really cool and fun units
  • Gotrek_BeastslayerGotrek_Beastslayer Registered Users Posts: 1,569
    edited April 2019
    crazycrix said:

    Urian Poisonblade is long dead I think, but you missed the most probable (IMHO) lord pack LL, Beastlord Rakarth. Why would they go for someone with rules from 4th edition? Well he does fit perfectly with the missing units. He can bring High Beastmasters as Lord option, Scourgerunner Chariots and Medusa + her chariot. Malus would make perfect sence as a FLC lord.

    Thanks! I'll add Rakarth to the list ASAP.

    Excellent list, comprehensive. I can't wait to see the rest. As a tt fan it was great to be reminded of some really cool and fun units

    Thanks! If you have any other unit, LL etc. in mind, please, tell me. ;)
    #JusticeForTzeentch #JusticeForMonogods



    WH Novels:

    - Vampire Wars: The Von Carstein Trilogy: 10/10
    - Gilead's Blood: 8/10
    - Riders of the Dead: 9/10
    - Empire in Chaos: 9/10
    - Mark of Damnation: 7.5/10
    - Mark of Heresy: 7/10
    - G&F: Trollslayer: 8/10 (re-read)
    - G&F: Skavenslayer: 9.5/10
    - G&F: Daemonslayer: 10/10
    - G&F: Dragonslayer: 8/10
    - G&F: Beastslayer: 7.5/10
    - G&F: Vampireslayer: 7/10
    - G&F: Giantslayer: 7.5/10
    - The Chronicles of Malus Darkblade vol. one: 8.5/10
    - Drachenfels: 6.5/10
    - Genevìeve Undead: 7.5/10
    - Silver Nails: 9.5/10
  • MaedrethnirMaedrethnir Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 13,071
    Add Arcane Phoenix and White Lion Pack for sizzle and pure rawr.

    Also Prince Imrik of Caledor should be the first on the list, gilded on the Caledor's heraldry background!!! Smallfolk need to know what they should like if by any chance lesser taste struck their palates!

    With an announcement of LP all my hopes have intensified ten thousandfold. Finally High Elves have a chance to get a Legendary Lord on a dragon. Chance for CA to atone for its crimes against Ulthuan.
  • Gotrek_BeastslayerGotrek_Beastslayer Registered Users Posts: 1,569
    @Maedrethnir Thanks! Me too. My hype is over 9000!

    Before i go (gotta rest) ...can someone please tell me how to merged threads? This will help me a lot for dah tomorrow-update. :)
    #JusticeForTzeentch #JusticeForMonogods



    WH Novels:

    - Vampire Wars: The Von Carstein Trilogy: 10/10
    - Gilead's Blood: 8/10
    - Riders of the Dead: 9/10
    - Empire in Chaos: 9/10
    - Mark of Damnation: 7.5/10
    - Mark of Heresy: 7/10
    - G&F: Trollslayer: 8/10 (re-read)
    - G&F: Skavenslayer: 9.5/10
    - G&F: Daemonslayer: 10/10
    - G&F: Dragonslayer: 8/10
    - G&F: Beastslayer: 7.5/10
    - G&F: Vampireslayer: 7/10
    - G&F: Giantslayer: 7.5/10
    - The Chronicles of Malus Darkblade vol. one: 8.5/10
    - Drachenfels: 6.5/10
    - Genevìeve Undead: 7.5/10
    - Silver Nails: 9.5/10
  • xXF1aKOXxxXF1aKOXx Registered Users Posts: 987
    I loved this list am hoping at least one of the staff from CA sees this
  • ScreamimgEnvyScreamimgEnvy Registered Users Posts: 741
    Excellent work! Rich was serious when he said there is still a game yet to be added in WH2.

    This hypes me!
    Team Monogods - #JusticeForTzeentch


  • DrownedHoundDrownedHound Registered Users Posts: 7,081
    Squig Gobba!
  • NyxilisNyxilis Registered Users Posts: 5,414
    One thing I wonder about is if they will use the FLC lord as reason to add to game 1 races, or to DLC packs in general be they game one or two.
  • henfrida2012henfrida2012 Registered Users Posts: 78
    edited April 2019

    Good day, mortals!


    awesome list.

    you list all that is missing.
    thank ypu for not forgetting the generic Lord and Heroes

    well, tomb king still need High Priest Lord
    Post edited by henfrida2012 on
  • SaurianDruidSaurianDruid Registered Users Posts: 1,561
    Very good list. Lots of options spread across the Warhammer world left to be added.

    One point about Kroak. Him being a hero actually tells us a lot about how CA sees the lord status. Kroak was a lord on the tabletop, but because his lore doesn't fit the lord role as envisioned in Total War he was made a hero.

    This means that CA factors in lore appropriateness more than they do the hard rules on the tabletop. It is safe to assume characters who don't lead armies in the lore, like Nakai or Oxyotl, aren't as likely to be chosen for the lord position. However Kroak also opens the door for more legendary heroes to be added, which would be a fantastic role for either.

    As much as I want Oxyotl in it would be a shame to not have him able to perform assassinations on the campaign map. He would make an amazing legendary hero.
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 30,130

    Very good list. Lots of options spread across the Warhammer world left to be added.

    One point about Kroak. Him being a hero actually tells us a lot about how CA sees the lord status. Kroak was a lord on the tabletop, but because his lore doesn't fit the lord role as envisioned in Total War he was made a hero.

    This means that CA factors in lore appropriateness more than they do the hard rules on the tabletop. It is safe to assume characters who don't lead armies in the lore, like Nakai or Oxyotl, aren't as likely to be chosen for the lord position. However Kroak also opens the door for more legendary heroes to be added, which would be a fantastic role for either.

    As much as I want Oxyotl in it would be a shame to not have him able to perform assassinations on the campaign map. He would make an amazing legendary hero.

    Not really. A lot of this stuff is forgeworld and a lot of the units remaining are heroes and the like, especially for TWW2 races. It's only really Skaven left that have a significant chunk of content left to go. The rest have lower tier characters and a couple of TT units plus heroes and stuff from outside the army books.

    CA have said before that LL's give them more bang for their buck than LH's do, and this is still true. I wouldn't expect too much more in the way of LH's.
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  • SaurianDruidSaurianDruid Registered Users Posts: 1,561

    Not really. A lot of this stuff is forgeworld and a lot of the units remaining are heroes and the like, especially for TWW2 races. It's only really Skaven left that have a significant chunk of content left to go. The rest have lower tier characters and a couple of TT units plus heroes and stuff from outside the army books.

    CA have said before that LL's give them more bang for their buck than LH's do, and this is still true. I wouldn't expect too much more in the way of LH's.

    I would hardly consider Forgeworld units an impossibility at this point. Not with shenanigans like Norsca and the Vampire Coast running around. If CA is intent on lord packs with new units they'll pull unit ideas from anywhere they can get them. I don't expect things like the Dread Saurian or Thunderlizard, but I also don't see them as completely impossible now that we know more lord packs are on the way.

    CA has said that before, true. But they opted to make Kroak a hero rather than a lord. Kroak is one of the biggest named Lizardmen characters there is, I am sure they could've sold him as a proper DLC lord if they wanted to go that route.
  • forthekey67forthekey67 Registered Users Posts: 149
    Great list, shows how much more content there is possible from the official army books. Then there's the possibility of CA creating unit champions or other stuff they might pull from the lore. Lizardmen could get relic priests using Kroak as a template, dark elves might get the manflayers as an actual unit and as you've listed skaven could get stuff from the hell-pit list.

    Since we first heard about the possibility of second lord packs from the (unjustified) backlash over TTT, I would guess that Gor-Rok will be the lizard lord - and I bet he'll be riding a troglodon.
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 30,130

    Not really. A lot of this stuff is forgeworld and a lot of the units remaining are heroes and the like, especially for TWW2 races. It's only really Skaven left that have a significant chunk of content left to go. The rest have lower tier characters and a couple of TT units plus heroes and stuff from outside the army books.

    CA have said before that LL's give them more bang for their buck than LH's do, and this is still true. I wouldn't expect too much more in the way of LH's.

    I would hardly consider Forgeworld units an impossibility at this point. Not with shenanigans like Norsca and the Vampire Coast running around. If CA is intent on lord packs with new units they'll pull unit ideas from anywhere they can get them. I don't expect things like the Dread Saurian or Thunderlizard, but I also don't see them as completely impossible now that we know more lord packs are on the way.

    CA has said that before, true. But they opted to make Kroak a hero rather than a lord. Kroak is one of the biggest named Lizardmen characters there is, I am sure they could've sold him as a proper DLC lord if they wanted to go that route.
    They're not an impossibility, but they're not really important and in cases like the DS or Thunderlizard not really feasible. That model for example is a childrens toy, and both would be way beyond tier 5. Mind you there's stuff like the Idol which would be really cool, but even then there's a long list of actual Orc units I'd rather see first.

    Kroak is also a one spell character who was relatively easy to do an 8th ed version of. Awesome that they did him, and he does open the door for more LH's. Oxotyl would be a pretty sweet LL or hero in game 3. Even then as a LL he's better because he can be placed right in game 3's map.
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  • Lexen_RapierLexen_Rapier Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 262
    You've gotta think;

    Throt + Moulder, and Grom + Trolls are inevitable at some point.

    The only reason Grom isn't definite, is that it's cross-over dlc. (Grom vs High elves was always bound to be his deal).
  • NyxilisNyxilis Registered Users Posts: 5,414

    Not really. A lot of this stuff is forgeworld and a lot of the units remaining are heroes and the like, especially for TWW2 races. It's only really Skaven left that have a significant chunk of content left to go. The rest have lower tier characters and a couple of TT units plus heroes and stuff from outside the army books.

    CA have said before that LL's give them more bang for their buck than LH's do, and this is still true. I wouldn't expect too much more in the way of LH's.

    I would hardly consider Forgeworld units an impossibility at this point. Not with shenanigans like Norsca and the Vampire Coast running around. If CA is intent on lord packs with new units they'll pull unit ideas from anywhere they can get them. I don't expect things like the Dread Saurian or Thunderlizard, but I also don't see them as completely impossible now that we know more lord packs are on the way.

    CA has said that before, true. But they opted to make Kroak a hero rather than a lord. Kroak is one of the biggest named Lizardmen characters there is, I am sure they could've sold him as a proper DLC lord if they wanted to go that route.
    They're not an impossibility, but they're not really important and in cases like the DS or Thunderlizard not really feasible. That model for example is a childrens toy, and both would be way beyond tier 5. Mind you there's stuff like the Idol which would be really cool, but even then there's a long list of actual Orc units I'd rather see first.

    Kroak is also a one spell character who was relatively easy to do an 8th ed version of. Awesome that they did him, and he does open the door for more LH's. Oxotyl would be a pretty sweet LL or hero in game 3. Even then as a LL he's better because he can be placed right in game 3's map.
    I think some LH's are easier than is given credit. If you add Nakai, really he's just a big ol beat stick. Since he didn't really do anything than show up and hit things. Then leave. An if you look at Kroak he's exceptionally well animated with his spellcasting and the like despite being inanimate. I think part of it is how much effort they're now putting into them.

    If they put as much into the incoming ones as they did this one I imagine we'd see more of those. As well as mechanics for the individual factions or as a whole for the races.
  • Vanilla_GorillaVanilla_Gorilla Registered Users Posts: 30,130
    @Nyxilis Fair point. I don't mean to discredit the work put in. Kroak was done really well. Hopefully we do see more like him, but at the same time LL's give more bang for the buck.
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  • GoatforceGoatforce Registered Users Posts: 7,207

    Good day, mortals!

    Recently CA amazed us with the confirmations of muuuuuuch more new contents are coming, oh oh like a lot of goodies. :#

    We all know that CA can use all the GW material they want in order to add stuff like units, LLs (White Dwarf, Forge World, Older Army-Books...) ...so...let's see what the future holds, bois!

    • WARNING: I'd like to advice ya all that this thread is a *work-in-progress* . I'm running out of time, so i'll add all the rest ASAP. ;)

    LIZARDMEN - units, lords, heroes

    LIZARDMEN LLS - very important

    • Surprise! With the strategic move to implement Lord Kroak as LH (Legendary Hero) CA opened a hell of a door for the addition of new LLs (Legendary Lords).
    • Why? Ehehe, i'd like to remember you that Kroak is a Lord in the TT Game. That means...Heroes in the TT Game could be LLs in WH2 and vice versa. Amazing!
    • And the same goes for Tiktaq'to. The living Millennium Falcon-boi is a Hero in the TT Game...buuuuut he's a LL in WH2 ;)

    Here are the possible LIzzy's LLs and LHs:

    • Gor-Rok

    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gor-Rok
    • Nakai
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Nakai
    • Oxyotl
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Oxyotl
    • Tetto'eko
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tetto'eko
    • Chakax The Eternity Warden
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Chakax

    Dark Elves - units, lords, heroes

    Here are the possible Druchii's LLs and LHs:

    • Malus Darkblade
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Malus_Darkblade
    • Shadowblade
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Shadowblade
    • Kouran Darkhand
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Kouran_Darkhand
    • Tullaris Deadbringer
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tullaris_Dreadbringer
    • Urian Poisonblade
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Urian_Poisonblade

    Skaven - units, lords, heroes

    Here are the possible Skaven's LLs and LHs:

    • Thanquol & Boneripper
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Thanquol
    • Throt The Unclean & Ghoritch
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Throt_the_Unclean

    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ghoritch
    • Skweel Gnawtooth
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Skweel_Gnawtooth
    • Skreech Verminking
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Skreech_Verminking
    • Deathmaster Snikch
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Snikch

    High Elves - units, lords, heroes

    Here are the possible High Elves' LLs and LHs:

    • Eltharion The Grim
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Eltharion
    • Caradryan
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Caradryan
    • Prince Imrik
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Imrik
    • Belannaer The Wise
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Belannaer

    The Case for the Cross-Game LPs and the Old World Races

    • That's right, mortals! The chances to see Cross-Game LPs, also known as WH1 vs WH2, are increased thanks to recent holy news. Ex. Skaven vs Empire - Beastmen vs Dark Elves.
      Let's start with mah favorite race

    Beastmen - units, lords, heroes

    Here are the possible Beasties' LLs and LHs:

    • Ghorros Warhoof
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ghorros_Warhoof
    • Moonclaw
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Moonclaw
    • Taurox The Brass Bull
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Taurox
    • Gorthor The Cruel
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gorthor
    • Molokh Slugtongue
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Slugtongue

    Greenskin - units, lords, heroes


    Here are the possible Greenskin's LLs and LHs:

    • Grom the Paunch
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Grom_the_Paunch
    • Gorbad Ironclaw
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gorbad_Ironclaw
    • Gorfang Rotgut
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Gorfang_Rotgut
    • Borgut Facebeater
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Borgut_Facebeater
    • Snagla Grobspit
    https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Snagla_Grobspit

    That's all for today, folks!

    Please, feel free to post or cite all the units, heroes, lords and LLs etc. that i've missed. :) Tomorrow i'll continue this thread with The Empire, Warriors of Chaos/Norsca and Wood Elves

    Thank you again CA for this amazing news! Thanks a lot! Jeez- i'm in a party-mood for days :D

    awesome list.

    you list all that is missing.
    thank ypu for not forgetting the generic Lord and Heroes

    well, tomb king still need High Priest Lord
    TKs missing: Liche High Priest, Bone Giant Varients (though may be a bit redundant). LLs, Apophas (or maybe as a LH) would be cool
  • MrMecHMrMecH Registered Users Posts: 2,389
    edited April 2019
    Ghorgon and Preyton!!!! Beastboi need LP
    SHUT UP GIVE US GHORGON!!!!!

  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Registered Users Posts: 10,966
    A "dark horse" pick for the High Elves could be Sea Lord Aislinn. He'd probably be regarded as a C-rank pick while Imrik and Eltharion are A and B*, but Aislinn probably his the closest fit for a lot of the High Elven unit candidates.

    *I consider Imrik to be A-rank, despite not being in the most recent army book, less because of the importance of the character himself and more because he's a representative of the second most important genealogical line in Elven history.**

    **After that of Aenarion, keeping in mind that every Everqueen since has been a descendant of Aenarion.
  • RomeoRejectRomeoReject Registered Users Posts: 1,865
    Just as a heads up, mods cover quite a few of the units (And some of the Lords/Heroes) already, so I’m alright if CA doesn’t touch them. Now with that said:

    Nakai is neat, but short of making him either a Legendary Hero, or a Horde-based LL, I’m not sure how to weave him in. I actually feel like he’s the only real character I’d still be interested in seeing from the Lizardmen, the rest of them all feel like they’re already covered.

    Schreech absolutely, 100% needs to happen in my eyes. I know everyone is asking for Thanquol, but Schreech is way cooler in my eyes. A daemon would already be fairly unique as far as Lords go (Far more so than Thanquol could ever hope to be), and he would have a really cool focus on Verminlords that the other Lord choices wouldn’t.

    I’m also 100% on board with Throt, Skweel and Snikh. All three would have interesting focuses for their respective factions, and the latter two would be pretty unique in terms of battle mechanics.

    Shadowblade and Dreadbringer I could see as being unique Heroes exclusively for Hellebrond, and Darkhand being a unique Hero for Malekith.

    Ghorros would be my second-favourite option for a Beastmen LL (Excepting Moonclaw). He’d be massively unique in terms of battle mechanics, and campaign mechanics could be made somewhat interesting (Bonus to Centigors, bonus to Horde Growth, bonus to Replenishment).

    Moonclaw could be pretty unique, and would presumably have Immunity to Psychology, Causes Fear in battle, and give him a unique relationship to the Dark Moon even wherein he has bonuses or penalties depending on the phase. He’d obviously have Umbralok as a mount option, and either Wild Magic or Grey Magic options.

    There’s a couple Taurox mods out there that do a pretty good job with him, I’m not sure if CA even needs to cover him.

    Slugtongue would be cool. Although he’d be yet another caster lord for the Beastmen, he’s pretty cool. Could give him a huge Public Order penalty wherever he goes, as well as a bonus rank for recruits and reduced upkeep for all units in his army. In battle, an aura of penalty to melee attack/defense, possibly Causes Fear and obviously access to Wild Magic and Amethyst Magic.

    Grom the Paunch is the only real Greenskin I’m personally interested in, though I wouldn’t argue with Gorfang and Grobspit making an appearance. Borgut only makes sense as a Hero for Grimgor though.
  • AlchimistAlchimist Registered Users Posts: 291
    You missed the Squig Gobba.


  • DraxynnicDraxynnic Registered Users Posts: 10,966

    Just as a heads up, mods cover quite a few of the units (And some of the Lords/Heroes) already, so I’m alright if CA doesn’t touch them. Now with that said:

    I tend to bristle at "mods exist, so CA doesn't need to do it" type suggestions.

    First, because mods do make the game less stable. Every patch has a few "patch broke my campaign" threads where it was mostly the presence of mods that made that happen. For people who don't necessarily have the time to hurry to finish a campaign before a patch, relying on mods can be a PITA.

    Second, although this doesn't really apply to me, for multiplayer purposes mods are the TWW equivalent to "with your opponent's permission" rules. In any multiplayer situation, mods require all parties involved to download and agree to use the mods concerned.

    Third... in most of the non-character examples, I'm not sure they CAN just be modded in, due to the limitations on what can be added through a mod.

  • GodWillTellGodWillTell Registered Users Posts: 1,148
    Great list! Oh God there are so much more contents left.....so much! HYPE!!!

    And nice catch! Kroak and Tiktaktok means every other characters are still more than possible to be added as LL and LH!
    I can't wait to see the next LP, hopefuly it will also be a crossgame.
  • AbmongAbmong Registered Users Posts: 3,175
    I think from what Grace said, we're getting at least 2 more Lords Packs (3 if we're lucky)

    3 LP would be ideal to get everything worth getting into the game. With that said, I think the next LP we're going to get would likely be HE vs DE since we're just got LM vs Skaven.

    "The Prince & the Tyrant" or "The Dragon Prince & the Beastlord" would make sense with either Malus or Rakarth as the FLC LL. Even though I think "The Prince & the Tyrant" sounds better. Thematically, what makes more sense would be "The Dragon Prince & the Beastlord" because Malus isn't linked to any specifically types of units so to speak. Most of the units in the following lists is the same as what @Gotrek_Beastslayer posted, but here with some differences in LL choice of who I think will be included and who will be cut.

    "The (Dragon) Prince & the Beastlord"
    Imrik, Prince Imrik of Caledor vs (Hubris) Rakarth, Beastlord of Karond Kar

    FLC LL= Malus Darkblade, Tyrant of Hag Graef
    Legendary Hero = Caradryan, the Anointed of Asuryan (HE)

    HE Playable Subfactions = Caledor
    New Lord types = Archmage
    New Hero types = Dragon mage, Sea Helms
    New Mounts & Summons = Phoenix (Mount). Griffon (Mount)
    New Units = White Lion Chariots, Merwyrm, Lothern Skycutter
    New RoR = Probably a few, but I can't be bothered...

    DE Playable Subfactions = Karond Kar (Rakarth), Hag Graef (Malus)
    New Lord types = Black Ark Fleetmaster, High Beastmaster
    New Hero types = Master, Beastmaster
    New Mounts & Summons = N/A
    New Units = Bloodwrack Medusae, Bloodwrack Shrine, Scourgerunner Chariot
    New RoR = Knights of Burning Dark (Dread Knights), and probably more but I can't be bothered to look them all up...
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    As for the LM vs SK LP... I think they would need to be split into 2 more DLCs, LM has too many Characters and Skaven too many units to fill one DLC. Which probably means one of them will not make it in until after WH3...

    "The Unseen & the Unclean" (LM vs SK DLC option 1)
    Oxyotl, the vs Throt,
    FLC LL= Deathmaster Snikch
    Legendary Hero = Nakai, the Wanderer

    LM Playable Subfactions = Reclaimers of Pahuax (Oxyotl), First Defenders *NPC (Xltzhpctli)
    New Lord types = Inxi-Huinzi *NPC (Unique lord, like Boris Todbringer/Red Duke)
    New Hero types = Chameleon Hunter
    New Mounts & Summons = Xltzhpctli *NPC (Inxi-Huinzi's Horned-One), Cold-One (Skink Cheif Mount)
    New Units = Razordon Hunting pack, Ancient Razordon, Dread Surian,
    New RoR = (I Can't be bothered...)

    SK Playable Subfactions = Clan Moulder (Throt), Clan Eshin (Snikch)
    New Lord types = Master Moulder
    New Hero types = Packmaster
    New Mounts & Summons = Brood Horrors (Mount), Great Pox Rat (Mount), Ghoritch (Throt's Summon)
    New Units = Giant Rats, Wolf Rats, Armored Rat Ogre, Augmented Rat Ogre, Mutant Rat Ogres, Stormfiends, Chimaerat, Burrowing Behemoth, Throtlings
    New RoR = (I Can't be bothered...)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "The Astronomer & the Seer" (LM vs SK DLC option 2)
    Tetto'Eko, Cheif Astronomer vs Thanquol, the Grey Seer

    FLC LL= Gor-Rok
    Legendary Hero = Chakax, the Eternal Warden

    LM Playable Subfactions = Tlaxtlan (Tetto'Eko), Itza (Gor-Rok)
    New Lord types = Skink Astronomer
    New Hero types = Skink Oracle
    New Mounts & Summons = Troglodon (Oracle mount), Coatl (Tetto'Eko's Summon)
    New Units = Feral Troglodon, Arcanodon, Thunder Lizard
    New RoR (I Can't be bothered...)

    SK Playable Subfactions = Clan Mors (Queek will be moved there)
    New Lord types = Skweel Gnawtooth (Unique lord)
    New Hero types = Clan Chieftain
    New Mounts & Summons = War Litter (mount), Boneripper (Thanquol's mount or summon)
    New Units = Warp-Grinder, Poison Wind Mortar (and anything they couldn't fit into the other DLC)
    New RoR = Albino Stormvermin, (I Can't be bothered...)
    New Mechanic = Rituals to Summon: Verminlords, Exalted Verminlords and Skreech Verminking
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I would consider HE, DE, LM and SK completed factions if we get all the above (and hopefully before WH3).

    Doubt we'll be seeing any cross-game LP DLCs just yet, but the most obvious one would be:

    "The Warden & the Warboss"
    Eltharion, the Grim vs Grom, the Paunch
    (could go with "The Grim & the Paunch" but "The Grim" has already been used before in "The Grim and the Grave")
    Something tells me this comment will get a Disagree
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