Weird Vessalization logic

Evilbunni

so im playing liu bei, trying to rush Lu Bu into my faction, i take a boat and take over Chang An, I succeed in making Dong Min into my vassal but a few turns later he declare independence and went to war with me. At first im like okay, guess im taking you by force but then i went and check diplomacy and I am now Untrustworthy due to going war with Vassal soon after making them a vassal lolz.

pretty sure this is a bug right? i mean i didnt even start it.

romin_ronin

Yeah the whole vassal system seems weird. The only time a vassal didn't declare Independence was when i left them with only 1 town. Also when I got declared on by every neighbor i asked to get vassilised by another party and they all signed peach with me. I don't think that should work

kweassa1

Seems like an oversight or a bug.

Or did you do anything to prompt a declaration of independence? Like, if you grant autonomy to the vassal, and if you refuse any major request like request for help, or permission to go to war, that's gonna have negative effects and prompt the vassal to declare independence.

Evilbunni

kweassa1 said:

Seems like an oversight or a bug.

Or did you do anything to prompt a declaration of independence? Like, if you grant autonomy to the vassal, and if you refuse any major request like request for help, or permission to go to war, that's gonna have negative effects and prompt the vassal to declare independence.

Nope nothing at all lol, had this other campaign where a really friendly vassal backstabbed right after I move my army away from them lol, pretty cool part there