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Angels in Bretonnia

Subr1185Subr1185 Posts: 13Registered Users
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Since we have demons in the game, it would be pretty awesome if a faction like Bretonnia can have a unit like the angels. They already have Paladins, priests, knights and all that Christian stuff, so angels would fit quite nicely in their roster. I know they are not in the lore, but there is no need to follow lore to the letter. What do you guys think?
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  • Ol_NessieOl_Nessie Posts: 2,914Registered Users
    No
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  • WyvaxWyvax Posts: 1,642Registered Users
    You're doing it wrong, it's Estalia that should have the angels. ;)
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  • Arthas_MenethilArthas_Menethil Senior Member Posts: 4,911Registered Users
    edited June 23
    The only angels in Warhammer came from Imperial Engineers and they were mechanical.

    Edit: Even then actual Angels would be the work of Slannesh and that a Daemon of Slannesh has Angel like wings.
    So...the Light's vaunted justice has finally arrived. Shall I lay down Frostmourne and throw myself at your mercy, Fordring?

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  • NyxilisNyxilis Posts: 2,790Registered Users
    It's not about following lore to the letter, it would be a hard turn away from the lore. Because all the gods that actually help humanity works directly through humanity. There is no great savors to come down and save you from the daemonic hordes. You have nothing but faith and your own steel.

    So I say emphatically, no.
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  • DraculasaurusDraculasaurus Posts: 1,983Registered Users
    If you actually wanted to give Bretonnia more fantastical units that'd be fine, but there are plenty of far better and more setting-appropriate choices for it than angels.
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  • TheGuardianOfMetalTheGuardianOfMetal Senior Member Posts: 9,143Registered Users
    Subr1185 said:

    Since we have demons in the game, it would be pretty awesome if a faction like Bretonnia can have a unit like the angels. They already have Paladins, priests, knights and all that Christian stuff, so angels would fit quite nicely in their roster. I know they are not in the lore, but there is no need to follow lore to the letter. What do you guys think?

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  • CrossilCrossil Posts: 3,514Registered Users
    Daemons are angels.

    To me, at least.
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  • Arthas_MenethilArthas_Menethil Senior Member Posts: 4,911Registered Users
    Crossil said:

    Daemons are angels.

    To me, at least.

    I mean look at Azazels wings pure Slanneshi Daemon.
    So...the Light's vaunted justice has finally arrived. Shall I lay down Frostmourne and throw myself at your mercy, Fordring?

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  • ErminazErminaz Senior Member Las Vegas, Nevada, USAPosts: 5,559Registered Users
    edited June 23
    I demand that Sigvald be given wings so that we can have an angel. :wink:
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  • goliath55goliath55 Posts: 290Registered Users
    Pegasus Knights are angels to mere peasants ! Pray tell, have you paid your tenthshare this season serf?!
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  • AbmongAbmong Posts: 791Registered Users
    They already have the Green Knight. He's basically the Bretonnia Archangel. The lost sons could be added as a summoned unit for the Fay Enchantress like how Cylostra summons damned knights.

    That being said, there is one character I would be OK with being made into an angel. Repanse de Lyonesse could be brought back as an ethereal/angel LH. She could just look like her TT model or CA could give her wings, then she would somewhat resemble the 40K living saints but with medieval Bretonnian armour. But to have anyone other than Repanse, let alone units of angels flying around would just break the feel of Bretonnia. This isn't AoS.
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  • SephlockSephlock Posts: 932Registered Users
    Knowing CA, they'd all be ugly anyway.

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  • Ol_NessieOl_Nessie Posts: 2,914Registered Users
    Sephlock said:

    Knowing CA, they'd all be ugly anyway.

    "... because, you know, people come in all shapes and sizes..." :D
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  • SephlockSephlock Posts: 932Registered Users
    Ol_Nessie said:

    Sephlock said:

    Knowing CA, they'd all be ugly anyway.

    "... because, you know, people come in all shapes and sizes..." :D
    All of them ugly, apparently.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .
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  • Unknown6203Unknown6203 Posts: 516Registered Users
    I could care less for lore, since GW destroyed the world anyway. but i must say even angels are a bit much.

    I would love to see Foot Knights thought....
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  • ReeksReeks Posts: 1,609Registered Users
    We need "He Who Shall Not Be Named" to set things straight!

    I will Summon him....Mortals avert your eyes or be blinded by the splendor!


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  • Ol_NessieOl_Nessie Posts: 2,914Registered Users
    Reeks said:

    We need "He Who Shall Not Be Named" to set things straight!

    I will Summon him....Mortals avert your eyes or be blinded by the splendor!



    Keep Grombrindal in KaK, K8P should be 10 slots, Dogs of War should be a horde, DoC should be one race- Change my mind

    Give us a Slayer Hero!
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  • BringtehBloodBringtehBlood Posts: 97Registered Users
    All angels are in estalia.

    Close thread
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  • Godefroy_de_BouillonGodefroy_de_Bouillon Posts: 1,719Registered Users
    Give Bretonnia Angels, yes!
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  • CaesarSahlertzCaesarSahlertz Posts: 1,633Registered Users

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  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 19,081Registered Users
    Subr1185 said:

    Since we have demons in the game, it would be pretty awesome if a faction like Bretonnia can have a unit like the angels. They already have Paladins, priests, knights and all that Christian stuff, so angels would fit quite nicely in their roster. I know they are not in the lore, but there is no need to follow lore to the letter. What do you guys think?

    Christian stuff? They prey to a disguised Elf goddess which doesn't employ angels.

    Also, hi Equix!


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  • uriakuriak Posts: 3,390Registered Users
    You're thinking more about the HoMM serie. It is a warhammer trope that there are few supernatural "good" entities, and the only actual gods doing stuff are the chaos ones (the roles of all others is debatable and maybe more aking to belief given substance )

    Bretonnia in particular, is a faction exemplar in having normal troops given supernatural abilities. Chaos warriors could be the same if they weren't accompagned by many monsters. (I feel chaos factions in general have a bit of a sprawling roster problem but that's something different)
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  • Infinite_MawInfinite_Maw Posts: 1,220Registered Users
    There is no harm in adding Bretonnian angels. As long as we get Nurgle jesters, theatrical plaguebearers and maybe mutant seals.
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  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Posts: 19,081Registered Users
    Infinite_Maw said:

    There is no harm in adding Bretonnian angels. As long as we get Nurgle jesters, theatrical plaguebearers and maybe mutant seals.

    There already are Nurgle Jesters:



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  • TalmoreanTalmorean Posts: 1,418Registered Users
    Somebody's been play Kings of War:


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  • FloppingerFloppinger Posts: 332Registered Users
    Ephraim_Dalton said:

    Infinite_Maw said:

    There is no harm in adding Bretonnian angels. As long as we get Nurgle jesters, theatrical plaguebearers and maybe mutant seals.

    There already are Nurgle Jesters:


    There was even a Mordheim warband called The Carnival of Chaos, which was basically a Nurgle themed carnival troupe.
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  • Ol_NessieOl_Nessie Posts: 2,914Registered Users
    Floppinger said:

    Ephraim_Dalton said:

    Infinite_Maw said:

    There is no harm in adding Bretonnian angels. As long as we get Nurgle jesters, theatrical plaguebearers and maybe mutant seals.

    There already are Nurgle Jesters:


    There was even a Mordheim warband called The Carnival of Chaos, which was basically a Nurgle themed carnival troupe.
    That's what @Infinite_Maw was referring to originally. He's got a link to his Carnival of Chaos thread in his signature. Check it out, it's fairly dope.
    Keep Grombrindal in KaK, K8P should be 10 slots, Dogs of War should be a horde, DoC should be one race- Change my mind

    Give us a Slayer Hero!
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  • Fear_The_WolfFear_The_Wolf Posts: 2,810Registered Users
    Arthas_Menethil said:

    The only angels in Warhammer came from Imperial Engineers and they were mechanical.

    Edit: Even then actual Angels would be the work of Slannesh and that a Daemon of Slannesh has Angel like wings.

    The Slaneeshi thing is true, at least in the context that the OP wanted. The warp isn't hell, it's raw emotion made manifest. The Daemons perceived represent various aspects of reality at their most extreme.
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  • Arthas_MenethilArthas_Menethil Senior Member Posts: 4,911Registered Users
    Reeks said:

    We need "He Who Shall Not Be Named" to set things straight!

    I will Summon him....Mortals avert your eyes or be blinded by the splendor!



    So...the Light's vaunted justice has finally arrived. Shall I lay down Frostmourne and throw myself at your mercy, Fordring?

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  • psychoakpsychoak Posts: 2,149Registered Users
    I actually checked this thread just to see how many heretic pictures there were.
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