Slaan Rework confirmed on stream

Goatforce#6625

You can get them earlier now. Rite of awakening gives dilemma for which lore they have.

When it spawns it gets a "Generation Trait", 4th, 3rd or 2nd Gen. Unique trait for each. Seems like they get bonus experience at beginning when armt raised too.

ASyrian#2378

Goatforce said:

You can get them earlier now. Rite of awakening gives dilemma for which lore they have.

When it spawns it gets a "Generation Trait", 4th, 3rd or 2nd Gen. Unique trait for each. Seems like they get bonus experience at beginning when armt raised too.

Hell yeah

Ungolf#4587

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Nexter3CZ

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

but now u can get life and fire

Goatforce#6625

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Yeah that's sad, but they did say they would listen to feedback so hopefully will be reintroduced.

Draculasaurus

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

That's a little weird.

Draxynnic#3149

Goatforce said:

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Yeah that's sad, but they did say they would listen to feedback so hopefully will be reintroduced.

They probably figure that since Skinks have the Lore of Heavens, people wouldn't want it on the Slann too.

However, if the Slann characteristics make it worthwhile, then there's no reason why Celestial Slann shouldn't be a thing.

Xpelled#4301

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

I don't really mind. It makes Mazdamundi more unique and gives you a reason to bring a Skink Priest with Heavens magic.

eomat#7953

Please don’t take away my Blueberry Slann!

Noisy_Cricket#8021

eomat said:

Please don’t take away my Blueberry Slann!

Hopefully they will recycle the colour, I love that blue!

Lord_Distamorfin#1941

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Two steps forward, one step back. It's progress, but at some point the Slann need to have access to all 8 classical lores. At least now they probably won't be useless as lords.

EarthDragon

BitsToByteOn said:

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

I don't really mind. It makes Mazdamundi more unique and gives you a reason to bring a Skink Priest with Heavens magic.

Truth!! If you want Heavens, just take Mazdumundi. Not a loss at all!! The other options are very welcome

Bugmansxxx

Life slann is pretty stronk for LM. Lots of units with big health pools and single entity dinos.

Rolf1989

Lord_Distamorfin said:

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Two steps forward, one step back. It's progress, but at some point the Slann need to have access to all 8 classical lores. At least now they probably won't be useless as lords.

They really don't.

I think it's a fine idea to separate lores between Slann and Skinks. I'm also glad that they finally changed Slann.
Any comments on the Geomatic Web? That's my last gripe with LM.

Steppelord

Rolf1989 said:

Lord_Distamorfin said:

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Two steps forward, one step back. It's progress, but at some point the Slann need to have access to all 8 classical lores. At least now they probably won't be useless as lords.

They really don't.

I think it's a fine idea to separate lores between Slann and Skinks. I'm also glad that they finally changed Slann.
Any comments on the Geomatic Web? That's my last gripe with LM.

Lol no. Slann should be the one unit in the game that has access to any lore (basics plus high.) Skinks with magic should only be last resorts or when its too early in the game for Slann.

Goatforce#6625

Steppelord said:

Rolf1989 said:

Lord_Distamorfin said:

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Two steps forward, one step back. It's progress, but at some point the Slann need to have access to all 8 classical lores. At least now they probably won't be useless as lords.

They really don't.

I think it's a fine idea to separate lores between Slann and Skinks. I'm also glad that they finally changed Slann.
Any comments on the Geomatic Web? That's my last gripe with LM.

Lol no. Slann should be the one unit in the game that has access to any lore (basics plus high.) Skinks with magic should only be last resorts or when its too early in the game for Slann.

Tbh Elven mages, or at least Lord variants of them (hopefully WE and HE will get that soon) should get access to all base Lores too, but yeah Slaan should get all normal Lores.

Magicspook

Steppelord said:

Rolf1989 said:

Lord_Distamorfin said:

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Two steps forward, one step back. It's progress, but at some point the Slann need to have access to all 8 classical lores. At least now they probably won't be useless as lords.

They really don't.

I think it's a fine idea to separate lores between Slann and Skinks. I'm also glad that they finally changed Slann.
Any comments on the Geomatic Web? That's my last gripe with LM.

Lol no. Slann should be the one unit in the game that has access to any lore (basics plus high.) Skinks with magic should only be last resorts or when its too early in the game for Slann.

No they shouldn't.

Goatforce#6625

Magicspook said:

Steppelord said:

Rolf1989 said:

Lord_Distamorfin said:

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Two steps forward, one step back. It's progress, but at some point the Slann need to have access to all 8 classical lores. At least now they probably won't be useless as lords.

They really don't.

I think it's a fine idea to separate lores between Slann and Skinks. I'm also glad that they finally changed Slann.
Any comments on the Geomatic Web? That's my last gripe with LM.

Lol no. Slann should be the one unit in the game that has access to any lore (basics plus high.) Skinks with magic should only be last resorts or when its too early in the game for Slann.

No they shouldn't.

Why, they had access to everything in TT, just like Elves and Empire

The_Radude#3776

I think removing Slann with lore of heaven was a bad move.

I get the whole "what if I have a skink with that lore why do I need a slann?" but what if I wantr an army with just a slann and no skink.

Options. The more options the better. I still think there should be a kroxigor ancient hero version, not just lord.

Lord_Distamorfin#1941

Rolf1989 said:

Lord_Distamorfin said:

Ungolf said:

They Also Just said in stream you cant get Lore of Heavens anymore on SLAAN

Two steps forward, one step back. It's progress, but at some point the Slann need to have access to all 8 classical lores. At least now they probably won't be useless as lords.

They really don't.

I think it's a fine idea to separate lores between Slann and Skinks. I'm also glad that they finally changed Slann.
Any comments on the Geomatic Web? That's my last gripe with LM.

Why shouldn't the greatest mages in the world have access to all of their lores? The only faction in the game that surpasses the Slann in number of usable lores of magic is the Wood Elves (all 8, High and Dark). Right now Slann are sitting at about half strength magic wise, and the faction as a whole is still missing Metal and Shadow.
Plus this decision literally takes away an option players had. It's a net gain, but we've still lost something.

steam_164191850448yoMgfCp

@Grace_CA

can you please pass on to the devs the folliwing thing for slann

giove them and madza and kroak greater arcane conduit please only the necharch lords have it in SP and that not how it is in lore

I cannot imagine this being much work since the slann have it in MP already AFAIK

either way thanks for the slann rework

Goatforce#6625

Ah, CA said on reddit that taking away Lore of Heavens:

"Rich_A_CA
Creative Assembly14 points ·
41 minutes ago

It's purely a technical limitation of our dilemma system, we can only support 4 options.

All 5 lores including Heavens will be present within custom and multiplayer battles for you to play with.

With each Slann having its own unique colour variation."

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/czlugp/slann_rework_information_from_the_lizardmen_stream/

Hopefully this will be fixed so we get Slann in their full glory.

StarGazer#4874

Goatforce said:

Ah, CA said on reddit that taking away Lore of Heavens:

"Rich_A_CA
Creative Assembly14 points ·
41 minutes ago

It's purely a technical limitation of our dilemma system, we can only support 4 options.

All 5 lores including Heavens will be present within custom and multiplayer battles for you to play with.

With each Slann having its own unique colour variation."

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/czlugp/slann_rework_information_from_the_lizardmen_stream/

Hopefully this will be fixed so we get Slann in their full glory.

Maybe they could give them High Magic by default and then add a second lore/tree via the dilemma.

For Mazdamundi they could just give him a second tree with the remaining high spells and select fire and life spells mixed in, just like how he has heavens and light mixed into his first tree now.

Lord_Distamorfin#1941

Star Weaver said:

Goatforce said:

Ah, CA said on reddit that taking away Lore of Heavens:

"Rich_A_CA
Creative Assembly14 points ·
41 minutes ago

It's purely a technical limitation of our dilemma system, we can only support 4 options.

All 5 lores including Heavens will be present within custom and multiplayer battles for you to play with.

With each Slann having its own unique colour variation."

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/czlugp/slann_rework_information_from_the_lizardmen_stream/

Hopefully this will be fixed so we get Slann in their full glory.

Maybe they could give them High Magic by default and then add a second lore/tree via the dilemma.

For Mazdamundi they could just give him a second tree with the remaining high spells and select fire and life spells mixed in, just like how he has heavens and light mixed into his first tree now.

That would definitely be a decent compromise to get around the dilemma limit.

I would suggest that the dilemma just give you 4 randomly picked lores out of the 5 Slann can currently have. That would be a decent bandaid until game 3, when I assume CA will fix that limit and actually give the Slann metal, shadows, and death.

Draxynnic#3149

Lord_Distamorfin said:

Star Weaver said:

Goatforce said:

Ah, CA said on reddit that taking away Lore of Heavens:

"Rich_A_CA
Creative Assembly14 points ·
41 minutes ago

It's purely a technical limitation of our dilemma system, we can only support 4 options.

All 5 lores including Heavens will be present within custom and multiplayer battles for you to play with.

With each Slann having its own unique colour variation."

https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/czlugp/slann_rework_information_from_the_lizardmen_stream/

Hopefully this will be fixed so we get Slann in their full glory.

Maybe they could give them High Magic by default and then add a second lore/tree via the dilemma.

For Mazdamundi they could just give him a second tree with the remaining high spells and select fire and life spells mixed in, just like how he has heavens and light mixed into his first tree now.

That would definitely be a decent compromise to get around the dilemma limit.

I would suggest that the dilemma just give you 4 randomly picked lores out of the 5 Slann can currently have. That would be a decent bandaid until game 3, when I assume CA will fix that limit and actually give the Slann metal, shadows, and death.

Pretty much what I was thinking. Some people might not like the RNG aspect, but it would make sense that they wouldn't have perfect control over which Slann is awakened.

SaurianDruid#4682

We're getting a Lore of Fire Slann? My Chotec army just became perfect.Soon the enemies of the Old Ones will burn! The stench of charred rat will fill all of Lustria!

Also really excited for the Lore of Life Slann. Just imagine how much of a solid wall Saurus will be when supported by a real healer. I hope it is a lovely shade of green.

psychoak

Knocking out a lord type over this, is one of those stupid decisions that should have gotten internal feedback, and never made it to the public.

People are always stupid some of the time. Designers need QA to go WTF over ideas like this, like writers need editors to point out the five line sentence with ten comma's and fifty typo's.