The Empire Offices system question.

Reprotoxic

With "The Empire Undivided Update" the old Empire offices has been removed. So my question is: does Balthasar Gelt lose access to his "Supreme Patriarch" title and effects? For example before he is given the office he is just Balthasar Gelt, but afterwards Supreme Patriarch is added to his name. Is that gone?

yolordmcswag

The effects of the office is gone, but he is still the supreme patriarch, and he should still have his trait and normal lord effects. I don't think he will get the name tag anymore, but most characters don't have their titles as part of their name anyway.

MalalTheRenegade

I guess so. But you don't really need that to know that he is the Supreme Patriarch (there isn't any title next to KF name and he is still the Emperor).

About the effects : His faction effects probably includes them.

eomat

I really hope they add his title to his name. Same for Markus Wulfhart. Empire Titles are just too cool.

Reprotoxic

eomat said:

I really hope they add his title to his name. Same for Markus Wulfhart. Empire Titles are just too cool.

Yeah seeing his title is always cool.

Vember

Wait, so the offices are just removed instead of being reworked? That sucks, I really enjoyed that mechanic.

sandercohen

Vember said:

Wait, so the offices are just removed instead of being reworked? That sucks, I really enjoyed that mechanic.

Really? It was one of the blandest and most unimaginative mechanics in the entire game. Hope it will get reworked for VP and WE as well.

Ilyandir

sandercohen said:

Vember said:

Wait, so the offices are just removed instead of being reworked? That sucks, I really enjoyed that mechanic.

Really? It was one of the blandest and most unimaginative mechanics in the entire game. Hope it will get reworked for VP and WE as well.

I agree that on it's own it was bland as the only unique Empire mechanic. Actually, yes, in practice it was close to awful given a lot of the buffs were naff.

That said, I'd still prefer they kept it, just tweaked the buffs. In coordination with the new Empire changes it's nothing to sniff at, provided some tweaks were made. Nonetheless, I'm very glad about the new additions and look forward to playing the Empire.

BrightestLight

yeah i agree, i wish they'd keep it and tweak it IN ADDITION to adding the elector counts/provinces system

Vember

sandercohen said:

Vember said:

Wait, so the offices are just removed instead of being reworked? That sucks, I really enjoyed that mechanic.

Really? It was one of the blandest and most unimaginative mechanics in the entire game. Hope it will get reworked for VP and WE as well.

Yes, but there was a fantastic mod that reworked it into multiple offices with different effects and I really enjoyed that moreso than the vanilla implementation, but to just completely do away with it...