Daemons of Chaos Tabletop Roster

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Just updated this roster, its a bit crusty looking but figured it could prompt some discussion about the Daemons of Chaos and their implementation in TWWH.
This is as far as I know all the Daemons of Chaos from the tabletop, some are obviously debatable since they are from before the split into Warriors and Daemons. But those units are at least listed as "Daemons" in those books.


Edit: Every instance of Chariots was misspelled, and HoC was missing as a source, fixed now.
Edit 2: Added missing units and moved the Exalted Flamer.
Edit 3: Removed Unfettered Fury Bloodthirster.

It's a quick and dirty update to an old image I made years ago now.
A lot of the images are poorly cropped, but I didn't want to have to redo everything, because I'm lazy.

If I missed any Daemon units from the tabletop, tell me and I'll add them in.

Neodeinos#5871

Where's N'kari ?

WaaaghCheif#7753

neodeinos said:

Where's N'kari ?

Tabletop Roster

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neodeinos said:

Where's N'kari ?

Not on the tabletop.
N'kari is pretty much confirmed for TWWH3, but she wasn't playable on the tabletop, and as such isn't on this image detailing the tabletop roster.

Yitterbum

If you are going to include, Bloodbeasts and Firewyrms then you should also be including Plaguebeasts. That being said, all of these were considered chaos spawn back in 6th edition and didn't have unique models or rules associated with them.

Xenos777

Easily the biggest roster in the game.

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Yitterbum said:

If you are going to include, Bloodbeasts and Firewyrms then you should also be including Plaguebeasts. That being said, all of these were considered chaos spawn back in 6th edition and didn't have unique models or rules associated with them.

Bloodbeasts and Firewyrms were upgrades from Spawns alongside Beasts of Nurgle and Fiends of Slaanesh, and since those two are part of the Daemons I assume Bloodbeasts and Firewyrms should be considered Daemons as well. Like I said, its debatable.
Although they are from Hordes of Chaos not Storm of Chaos, I messed that up on the image. Updated it to reflex this.

OdTengri#8235

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Yitterbum said:

If you are going to include, Bloodbeasts and Firewyrms then you should also be including Plaguebeasts. That being said, all of these were considered chaos spawn back in 6th edition and didn't have unique models or rules associated with them.

Bloodbeats and Firewyrms were upgrades from Spawns alongside Beasts of Nurgle and Fiends of Slaanesh, and since those two are part of the Daemons I assume Bloodbeasts and Firewyrms should be considered Daemons as well. Like I said, its debatable.
Although they are from Hordes of Chaos not Storm of Chaos, I messed that up on the image. Gonna have to fix that.

Wait 2 God Specific versions of Chaos Spawn got upgraded to Daemons and the other two got dropped off the face of the earth.

So the idea is if they hadn't been dropped but instead had continued into 8th ed they'd be Daemons as well.

If so than I concur.

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OdTengri said:

Wait 2 God Specific versions of Chaos Spawn got upgraded to Daemons and the other two got dropped off the face of the earth.

So the idea is if they hadn't been dropped but instead had continued into 8th ed they'd be Daemons as well.

If so than I concur.

Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking, like I mentioned in the first post, some of these units are debatable since Daemons and Warriors weren't separated until 7th.

Wyvax#7456

I really like this list, though I sincerely doubt that Soulgrinders will be divided up into god-dedicated units and actively hope that Greater Daemons are limited to lords. But everything else is absolute gold. Perfect roster for the Ancient Enemy.

Red_Dox#2328

Hero.


Bloodbeast? Firewyrm?

"The (Horrible) Endtimes" had three different versions for the (new plastic) Bloodthirster.

As fourth variant we would have the already listed Exalted one from Forgeworld/"Storm of Magic"

Since the world exploded before the others got new plastic miniatures, they have of course no rules. But it is not hard to extrapolate they also could have gotten various stages.
The harder question is what CA might do in general with the differentiation, since normal ones as Lords is already pretty heavy. Exalted ones as high tier unit would be nice but could get out of hand without limitations.


Technically no Daemon, so a bit weird and I understand why leaving it out. But, when it came out by Forgeworld the rules allowed it for any Chaos army
http://kerlin.de/pic/oldhammer/warhammerchaosbeast.pdf
Same situation for Forgeworlds Giant Chaos Spawn
http://www.kerlin.de/pic/oldhammer/warhammerchaospawn.pdf
So don't know if you want to include them because they were available in TT or leave them out since no real Daemons.

By your Nurgle Chariots is a "C" missing and overall it should be "chariots"

-----Red Dox

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Red_Dox said:

Hero.

Crap, looking into it, I can't find Exalted Flamers in 8th, only as part of the Burning Chariot's crew. Gonna have to take it off then I guess.

Red_Dox said:

"The (Horrible) Endtimes" had three different versions for the (new plastic) Bloodthirster.

Forgot those, might have to put them in too.

Red_Dox said:

Technically no Daemon, so a bit weird and I understand why leaving it out. But, when it came out by Forgeworld the rules allowed it for any Chaos army
http://kerlin.de/pic/oldhammer/warhammerchaosbeast.pdf
Same situation for Forgeworlds Giant Chaos Spawn
http://www.kerlin.de/pic/oldhammer/warhammerchaospawn.pdf
So don't know if you want to include them because they were available in TT or leave them out since no real Daemons.

I've always treated them as WoC units, just because they are mutated mortal beasts and such and not magical constructs, but since they were technically available to both armies I can see the case for including them.

Red_Dox said:

By your Nurgle Chariots is a "C" missing and overall it should be "chariots"

Yeah I caught and fixed that. Also misspelled "Chariot", but those misstakes present at the old image I made years ago too, and yet no one ever pointed them out to me.

dodge33cymru#1936

I'd forgotten all about the absolute atrocity that is the khorne skull cannon bike - I hope to the gods that both that, the 'soul grinder' and any other 40k rubbish gets nowhere near TWW Game III

Red_Dox#2328

The Exalted Flamer Heroe came through a WD update (as pictured) for the armybook.

------Red Dox

Neodeinos#5871

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neodeinos said:

Where's N'kari ?

Not on the tabletop.
N'kari is pretty much confirmed for TWWH3, but she wasn't playable on the tabletop, and as such isn't on this image detailing the tabletop roster.

Right always thought she was on the Tabletop.

And I really hope we'll never get the soul grinders, looks too much like 40k.

WaaaghCheif#7753

neodeinos said:

And I really hope we'll never get the soul grinders, looks too much like 40k.

I believe they can be cool, if CA does a toning down on the sci fi aspect, as Fatshark did with the Stormfiends.

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Red_Dox said:

The Exalted Flamer Heroe came through a WD update (as pictured) for the armybook.

------Red Dox

Right you are, I can't find a good scan of that issue, but its obviously legit. I'll add it in as a hero.

Red_Dox#2328

Just saw it now, you are also missing the Nurgle Herald on Nurgle Beast chariot or Nurgle Beast mount, which was legit in the SoC list. Pictures could prove problematic, since that would be conversion work from way back then.

Maybe the Warmaster mini for the mount rider? ^^
http://www.solegends.com/citcat2006us/c2006usp0954-00.htm
I liked the slugs there.

------Red Dox

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Red_Dox said:

Just saw it now, you are also missing the Nurgle Herald on Nurgle Beast chariot or Nurgle Beast mount, which was legit in the SoC list. Pictures could prove problematic, since that would be conversion work from way back then.

You are right again, I must have missed that since all the other listed mounts are standard ones.
In my defense, this is a pretty hastily updated image that I originally made years ago, I blame past me.

OdTengri#8235

Red_Dox said:

Hero.

Red Dox with the obscure well referenced and relevant post... On speed dial.

Just found the "Ranged" hero for the Daemons of Chaos.... It's got a flamethrower attack and a Breath Weapon. How ridiculous, I love it.

Ludbone#5956

Put some Gods aligned Warriors and Beastmen for each roster, like Blightkings and Slaangors, and this would be perfect.

Ludbone#5956

Also the Gods aligned Chaos Spawn look promising:

Ludbone#5956

And thanks to Chaosbane we have an example of a possible in-game Daemon Prince of Tzeentch:

OdTengri#8235

Ludbone said:

Put some Gods aligned Warriors and Beastmen for each roster, like Blightkings and Slaangors, and this would be perfect.

Those aren't DAEMONS though are they.... Kinda hard for them to be in the DAEMONS of Chaos roster if they aren't DAEMONS

Ludbone said:

Also the Gods aligned Chaos Spawn look promising:

Looking good, would love to have those added to the WARRIORS of Chaos and Beastmen. Although the Tzeentch one doesn't look like a Firewyrm (Tzeentch Spawn), they had fire breath attacks.

doclumbago#6250

i never liked the idea of a Chaos Daemon only army.
Preferred it when they were elite parts of the Warriors Of Chaos.

but it´s 8th edition so probly going to happen


QUESTION:
could you field a mixed God Chaos army or did you have to stick to one God roster in TT ?

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

I'm calling it now; DoC get 2 LPs. Great list OP.

Red_Dox#2328

doclumbago said:

QUESTION:
could you field a mixed God Chaos army or did you have to stick to one God roster in TT ?

Undivided, aka you mix all 4 gods as you want, was the default playmode for DoC.
People who rather wanted to go monogod sticked just to what their god offered as troops and could still make it work, despite the more limited choices.

-----Red Dox

OdTengri#8235

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

I'm calling it now; DoC get 2 LPs. Great list OP.

I'm calling it NOW, ALL Base Game Factions are getting 2 LPs, some... more.

Aram_thehead

What about the bloodthirster variants like "insensate rage", "wrath of khorne" and "unfetted fury" ? Were they introduced in age of sigmar? I like to have options when it comes to units.

yolordmcswag#6132

Aram_thehead said:

What about the bloodthirster variants like "insensate rage", "wrath of khorne" and "unfetted fury" ? Were they introduced in age of sigmar? I like to have options when it comes to units.

They were all introduced in the end times, so there's a chance. However, they are essentially just different specializations of the same, so I doubt we get more than one. After all, there are no different melee weapon choices for any other lords in the game, so I'd be surprised if we got more than one kind of bloodthirster. They would propably pick unfettered fury, it was identical to the "default" bloodthirster from 8th edition.

We might see one of the other variants as a LL though. Ka'banha would be a decent alternative to Skarbrand, and he is a wrath of Khorne bloodthirster.

Draculasaurus

Why are the heroes' different mounts listed as if they're entirely different heroes?