CTD When loading Mortal Empires campaign on specific save files

FiftyTifty

As this issue has come up quite often, there's been little in the way of constructive information on narrowing the problem down. So I've gone through all 59 of my current saves, as I've had this bug several times now.

Google Drive folder for my Warhammer II appdata folder (everything but the save files are in a .7z archive): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dOvEjvvuL2YwB8dOwYUKzCkdjPTd1DO4

Installed mods: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1921803189

As for which saves show this bug, here they are listed by their turn number: 22, 24, 25, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, & 59

To note is that this occurs for manual saves on the same turn as the autosave. So it's not the save file itself that is the problem, but the data being saved to it. These saves crash no matter how they're loaded; either from the main menu, after loading a save into the campaign, and after starting a new campaign.

I launch the game through Warhammer 2 Mod Manager, which can be obtained here: https://github.com/Kaedrin/warhammer-mod-manager/releases

The mods are sorted by their name. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/oO8YUCf.png

Warhammer II Build: V1.8.1 13089.1833768

My specs are:

CPU - i7 6700k @ 4Ghz
RAM - 2x16GB DDR4 3000Mhz
GPU - Vega 56
OS - Windows 10 LTSC 2019 x64 (Windows build 1809)
GPU Driver - 19.12.2

Csmrcc

Same for me man, everything was right and suddently with the empire campaign, 20% loading screen with savegames or sometimes loading campaign map from manual battles CTD issue

Also tried reinstalling steam and the game, deleting replays, deleting a lot of savegames, not selecting memory cpu etc, now im trying version 1.7.2 of the game and reinstalling graphic card drivers
Did you fixed it?

FiftyTifty

Unfortunately not. The issue is rampant, and there's no solution; reverting back to 1.7.2 breaks compatibility with mods updated since early December, as well as the recently released DLC.

I've submitted a ticket to CA, and there was a bit of back and forth, but they didn't reply after I sent them the requested user files. Submit one to CA as well, as the more people that do it, the better the odds of this getting fixed soon.

BillyRuffian

Could it relate to having two different versions of GCCM mods - the separate ones that are now also included in the main mod and the main mod itself? What about possible conflicts with the other out-of-date mods?

FiftyTifty

The exact same crash occurs with completely vanilla installs, as has been found in other threads. I've also fixed the load order concerning GCMM since, started a new campaign, and the campaign eventually corrupts.

BillyRuffian

I don't know where this quote came from but it seems to imply that the vanilla issue is a separate matter. https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/comment/2570826/#Comment_2570826 What CA really needs I expect is some vanilla save files to reprooduce from without the added complication of possible mod conflicts. I tried one here https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/comment/2571480#Comment_2571480 but could not reporduce so there may be several underlying causes to create the same error which won't necessarily show without more context.

FiftyTifty

That thread (https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/comment/2571480#Comment_2571480) is a completely different issue. The game isn't crashing, his whole computer shuts down.

BillyRuffian

It was just tthat I noticed you were asking for dump files.

Unfortunately I can't use your saves because they are modded, I suspect, so we'll just have to wait for CA to look at them, and I can't find any vanilla saves with the same issue although I've only looked through a few pages so far.

FiftyTifty

These users said the crash happens in campaigns without any mods:

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/256728/crashes-on-20-loading/p1

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/257128/saves-keep-corrupting-since-the-last-patch/p1

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/256734/random-crash-then-unable-to-load-saves#latest

I'll start a new campaign, and see how long I can go before it gets corrupted. I'll post the saves and crash files when it occurs.

BillyRuffian

Great, thanks. The only two saves in those three threads are modded, so I doubt I can load them.

Edit: I should have said, make sure it's pure vanilla with no mod remnants in your game files or elsewhere.

Edit2: it seems CA is also looking for vanilla saves https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/comment/2571625/#Comment_2571625