The easiest LL in the game is ...?

Thomassini

Noctilus! Can’t lose with that guy even if you tried.

Honorable mentions go to:
1. Gor-Rok: I’m on my ME Legendary run with that guy (without Proving Grounds) and Lustria is all but united by turn 85 (only Wulfhart waiting for execution because I want him to take MY settlements for me from Hexoatl - my only trading partners in game).
Honestly, Kroak should be forbidden.

2. Karl Franz after the rework. It was fun before but now your electors do the dirty job for you and you only have to confederate them.

3. WE on current patch. You can win the game without fighting a single battle, AR or not.

ardeathwing#3935

I don't think anyone can beat Tyrion in this ranking. He was/is/will continue to be the most broken lord due to his skills/HE economy/allies etc.
For someone to take over, we need to see severe nerf of ranged units/HE economy and agents...which won't happen.

Beast_of_Guanyin#8747

Fortress Ulthuan of course.

RikRiorik#9890

I think Grombrindal is hella easy too. Free extra ranks, extra trade income in one of, if not THE most trade goods heavy region in game. Army is powerful on the offence, but even more powerful on the defence. Extra movement range on all characters.

I like mopping up a good part of the early game with an army of mostly lowly Miners. Because with Grombrindal, those guys are cheap and they mop the floor with anyone.

Captain_Rex#1635

Yeah its impossible to loose with Noctilus but loosing a campaign is actually never a thing in TWWH.

But if you play him with the 1 settlement challenge, he’s still interesting.

Easiest LLs are by far Tyrion and Gor-Rok.

davedave1124#4773

I always found Ikit and Snikch pretty easy, especially on ME

DeathsDayOff

Easiest campaign in the game is Belegar ironhammer

TheShiroOfDalton

davedave1124 said:

I always found Ikit and Snikch pretty easy, especially on ME

You mean the two factions that have OP extra mechanics with no real balancing element to them? You don't say...

davedave1124#4773

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

I always found Ikit and Snikch pretty easy, especially on ME

You mean the two factions that have OP extra mechanics with no real balancing element to them? You don't say...

Hey.. you should try to get a job with CA, if I didn't know better I'd say you know more about game design than they do.

Neodeinos#5871

Ikit Claw is the easiest imo, even after he got nerfed he's stupidly OP.

Captain_Rex#1635

DeathsDayOff said:

Easiest campaign in the game is Belegar ironhammer

Haha what? He’s literally the only Dwarf that is still challenging.

One of the hardest campaigns.

TheShiroOfDalton

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

I always found Ikit and Snikch pretty easy, especially on ME

You mean the two factions that have OP extra mechanics with no real balancing element to them? You don't say...

Hey.. you should try to get a job with CA, if I didn't know better I'd say you know more about game design than they do.

You think only game designers can recognize imbalanced and OP mechanics? I guess you are unaware that most gamers aren't as totally clueless as you think.

I would even say game designers are less likely to recognize imbalances in their games since they will by default not play them as much as the gamers.

davedave1124#4773

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

I always found Ikit and Snikch pretty easy, especially on ME

You mean the two factions that have OP extra mechanics with no real balancing element to them? You don't say...

Hey.. you should try to get a job with CA, if I didn't know better I'd say you know more about game design than they do.

You think only game designers can recognize imbalanced and OP mechanics? I guess you are unaware that most gamers aren't as totally clueless as you think.

I would even say game designers are less likely to recognize imbalances in their games since they will by default not play them as much as the gamers.

No, I'm saying with the amount of complaints you have and how easy CA could sort them out I'm sure you'd be a major help to the team. Send them your CV and ideas, I'm sure they'll be impressed with your can do attitude.

TheShiroOfDalton

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

I always found Ikit and Snikch pretty easy, especially on ME

You mean the two factions that have OP extra mechanics with no real balancing element to them? You don't say...

Hey.. you should try to get a job with CA, if I didn't know better I'd say you know more about game design than they do.

You think only game designers can recognize imbalanced and OP mechanics? I guess you are unaware that most gamers aren't as totally clueless as you think.

I would even say game designers are less likely to recognize imbalances in their games since they will by default not play them as much as the gamers.

No, I'm saying with the amount of complaints you have and how easy CA could sort them out I'm sure you'd be a major help to the team. Send them your CV and ideas, I'm sure they'll be impressed with your can do attitude.

Ah so, you are making it personal because you have actual on-topic reply to my points. That just shows the weakness of your position.

Funny thing, I used to work in software QA. GAMING related software QA, albeit mostly related to translation and localisation. So I guess from now on you can no longer question anything I say, huh?

davedave1124#4773

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

I always found Ikit and Snikch pretty easy, especially on ME

You mean the two factions that have OP extra mechanics with no real balancing element to them? You don't say...

Hey.. you should try to get a job with CA, if I didn't know better I'd say you know more about game design than they do.

You think only game designers can recognize imbalanced and OP mechanics? I guess you are unaware that most gamers aren't as totally clueless as you think.

I would even say game designers are less likely to recognize imbalances in their games since they will by default not play them as much as the gamers.

No, I'm saying with the amount of complaints you have and how easy CA could sort them out I'm sure you'd be a major help to the team. Send them your CV and ideas, I'm sure they'll be impressed with your can do attitude.

Ah so, you are making it personal because you have actual on-topic reply to my points. That just shows the weakness of your position.

Funny thing, I used to work in software QA. GAMING related software QA, albeit mostly related to translation and localisation. So I guess from now on you can no longer question anything I say, huh?

I don't believe you., if you did you wouldn't consistently say "Wuh, CA are stoopid, they should do this or that" (paraphrasing) as if it's that simple, as if they aren't getting evidence from infinitely more sources than you. No.. you do not understand complex systems. Your use of absolutes just doesn't say a guy who knows the score to me, your points come out like an angry teenager not getting their own way.

Otters007#7127

Gor-Rok, Kroq-Gar, Tyrion and Noctilus are easy mode.

Easiest is probably Gor-Rok imo. Kroak is ridiculously strong to have from the start of the game, and Saurus chew through everything.

davedave1124#4773

Otters007 said:

Gor-Rok, Kroq-Gar, Tyrion and Noctilus are easy mode.

Easiest is probably Gor-Rok imo. Kroak is ridiculously strong to have from the start of the game, and Saurus chew through everything.

Gor Rok was the first LM I finished their campaign with and I don't usually use the LM.. like knife through butter.

kelembribor#4603

Sigvald or Malekith's mum.

beegee84

Tyrion settra mazdamundi malekith ikit claw nakai kroq gar equally the easiest.......... To be honest lizardmen in general are extremely easy campaigns as autoresolve loves them

LordCommander#3741

Snikch was the latest campaign I played and was a cake walk. Eshin shadowy dealings mechanics were fine, it was the fact there are no dedicated natural enemies until the Lothern/Avelorn steamroller, that one victory condition is to defeat Hag Greif (confederated very early) and the too easy build up to the final battle. It needs a harsher victory condition.

Theo91#7431

i find Isabella and Vlad two of the easiest campaigns.

After that I’d say ikit and Tyrian

On a separate note, I hope that CA leaves the game unbalanced. I like that some campaigns are very challenging like skarsnik and belegar and some are fairly straightforward. My only complaint would be I’d like to see a couple more of the Uber challenging campaigns

davedave1124#4773

LordCommander said:

Snikch was the latest campaign I played and was a cake walk. Eshin shadowy dealings mechanics were fine, it was the fact there are no dedicated natural enemies until the Lothern/Avelorn steamroller, that one victory condition is to defeat Hag Greif (confederated very early) and the too easy build up to the final battle. It needs a harsher victory condition.

For me it was because you start in that protected area on the edge of the map.. it's so easy to build up your strength. That horn of land is so easy to protect once you have it.

TheShiroOfDalton

Theo91 said:

i find Isabella and Vlad two of the easiest campaigns.

After that I’d say ikit and Tyrian

On a separate note, I hope that CA leaves the game unbalanced. I like that some campaigns are very challenging like skarsnik and belegar and some are fairly straightforward. My only complaint would be I’d like to see a couple more of the Uber challenging campaigns

You can play all campaigns on easy and have them all be straightforward as much as you want.

There should be no campaigns that are broken-easy by design at all. They all need to throw you curveballs. Why play a strategy game if you need no strategy?

davedave1124#4773

Ephraim_Dalton said:

Theo91 said:

i find Isabella and Vlad two of the easiest campaigns.

After that I’d say ikit and Tyrian

On a separate note, I hope that CA leaves the game unbalanced. I like that some campaigns are very challenging like skarsnik and belegar and some are fairly straightforward. My only complaint would be I’d like to see a couple more of the Uber challenging campaigns

You can play all campaigns on easy and have them all be straightforward as much as you want.

There should be no campaigns that are broken-easy by design at all. They all need to throw you curveballs. Why play a strategy game if you need no strategy?

Are they broken easy because you find them easy? What about those who are new to Total War or WH? It's not all about you or any individual on this forum. CA are designing the game with all players in mind - as they should.

TheShiroOfDalton

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

Theo91 said:

i find Isabella and Vlad two of the easiest campaigns.

After that I’d say ikit and Tyrian

On a separate note, I hope that CA leaves the game unbalanced. I like that some campaigns are very challenging like skarsnik and belegar and some are fairly straightforward. My only complaint would be I’d like to see a couple more of the Uber challenging campaigns

You can play all campaigns on easy and have them all be straightforward as much as you want.

There should be no campaigns that are broken-easy by design at all. They all need to throw you curveballs. Why play a strategy game if you need no strategy?

Are they broken easy because you find them easy? What about those who are new to Total War or WH? It's not all about you or any individual on this forum. CA are designing the game with all players in mind - as they should.

Buddy, those people can play on easy. They even renamed it to "New to TW" in PG. Whoa, there goes your argument up in flames!

davedave1124#4773

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

Theo91 said:

i find Isabella and Vlad two of the easiest campaigns.

After that I’d say ikit and Tyrian

On a separate note, I hope that CA leaves the game unbalanced. I like that some campaigns are very challenging like skarsnik and belegar and some are fairly straightforward. My only complaint would be I’d like to see a couple more of the Uber challenging campaigns

You can play all campaigns on easy and have them all be straightforward as much as you want.

There should be no campaigns that are broken-easy by design at all. They all need to throw you curveballs. Why play a strategy game if you need no strategy?

Are they broken easy because you find them easy? What about those who are new to Total War or WH? It's not all about you or any individual on this forum. CA are designing the game with all players in mind - as they should.

Buddy, those people can play on easy. They even renamed it to "New to TW" in PG. Whoa, there goes your argument up in flames!

Most people play on normal, an Ikit campaign could be considered doable by someone new to Skaven on normal. LLs do not have to be perfectly balanced (whatever that means).

So no, as usual you've jumped in with both feet and got it wrong again. CA work from constant feedback from Steam software to build arguments.. what evidence do you use, apart from personal experience?

TheShiroOfDalton

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

Theo91 said:

i find Isabella and Vlad two of the easiest campaigns.

After that I’d say ikit and Tyrian

On a separate note, I hope that CA leaves the game unbalanced. I like that some campaigns are very challenging like skarsnik and belegar and some are fairly straightforward. My only complaint would be I’d like to see a couple more of the Uber challenging campaigns

You can play all campaigns on easy and have them all be straightforward as much as you want.

There should be no campaigns that are broken-easy by design at all. They all need to throw you curveballs. Why play a strategy game if you need no strategy?

Are they broken easy because you find them easy? What about those who are new to Total War or WH? It's not all about you or any individual on this forum. CA are designing the game with all players in mind - as they should.

Buddy, those people can play on easy. They even renamed it to "New to TW" in PG. Whoa, there goes your argument up in flames!

Most people play on normal, an Ikit campaign could be considered doable by someone new to Skaven on normal. LLs do not have to be perfectly balanced (whatever that means).

So no, as usual you've jumped in with both feet and got it wrong again. CA work from constant feedback from Steam software to build arguments.. what evidence do you use, apart from personal experience?

LoL, I thought it was all about those poor first-timers? Now it's suddenly about "most people"?

DLC content must always be more challenging than base content. People who buy DLC can be expected to know how the game works, so a second tutorial makes no sense whatsoever. Ikit is however much easier than Queek or Skrolk and that's idiotic.

Also, sorry, but wrong again. That's normal content progression. Additional content is always a step ahead of base content because what's the point of making it easier again when the expectation is that the player got better by playing those campaigns? I guess you really have a low opinion of gamers, huh?

Is the Orphan of Kos easier than the Cleric Beast? 'course not. Because From Software don't take advice from casuals and gaming journalists who are offended by even the slightest form of challenge.

Darksyde Phil is an outlier, not the base, buddy.

davedave1124#4773

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

Theo91 said:

i find Isabella and Vlad two of the easiest campaigns.

After that I’d say ikit and Tyrian

On a separate note, I hope that CA leaves the game unbalanced. I like that some campaigns are very challenging like skarsnik and belegar and some are fairly straightforward. My only complaint would be I’d like to see a couple more of the Uber challenging campaigns

You can play all campaigns on easy and have them all be straightforward as much as you want.

There should be no campaigns that are broken-easy by design at all. They all need to throw you curveballs. Why play a strategy game if you need no strategy?

Are they broken easy because you find them easy? What about those who are new to Total War or WH? It's not all about you or any individual on this forum. CA are designing the game with all players in mind - as they should.

Buddy, those people can play on easy. They even renamed it to "New to TW" in PG. Whoa, there goes your argument up in flames!

Most people play on normal, an Ikit campaign could be considered doable by someone new to Skaven on normal. LLs do not have to be perfectly balanced (whatever that means).

So no, as usual you've jumped in with both feet and got it wrong again. CA work from constant feedback from Steam software to build arguments.. what evidence do you use, apart from personal experience?

LoL, I thought it was all about those poor first-timers? Now it's suddenly about "most people"?

DLC content must always be more challenging than base content. People who buy DLC can be expected to know how the game works, so a second tutorial makes no sense whatsoever. Ikit is however much easier than Queek or Skrolk and that's idiotic.

Also, sorry, but wrong again. That's normal content progression. Additional content is always a step ahead of base content because what's the point of making it easier again when the expectation is that the player got better by playing those campaigns? I guess you really have a low opinion of gamers, huh?

Is the Orphan of Kos easier than the Cleric Beast? 'course not. Because From Software don't take advice from casuals and gaming journalists who are offended by even the slightest form of challenge.

Darksyde Phil is an outlier, not the base, buddy.

Yes.. most players who don't play the game constantly or who have other games. The people in this forum are part of the a tiny minority and if you think CA need to prioritise those who constantly play on v.hard or legendary then you really don't understand business do you?

DLC must always be more challenging than the base game? You make things up in your bedroom and attach so much more importance to it than the rest of us.. and especially CA employees. It's a known pattern that CA produce OP unit rosters for DLC.. but wait.. that contradicts what you claim.. how strange.

Oh no.. apparently CA have a low opinion of gamers.. or maybe they're going off actual evidence? As opposed to listening to the little goblin that lives in your mind?

Ah right.. and From Software should be listened to and all their ideas should be applied to everyone else no matter the game.. oh dear.

SakuraHeinz

Tyrion and Gor-rok

Mogwai_Man#4978

All of them, because the AI is dumber than a bucket of pickles.

General_Hijalti#1213

davedave1124 said:

Ephraim_Dalton said:

davedave1124 said:

I always found Ikit and Snikch pretty easy, especially on ME

You mean the two factions that have OP extra mechanics with no real balancing element to them? You don't say...

Hey.. you should try to get a job with CA, if I didn't know better I'd say you know more about game design than they do.

You don't need to be like that, it is commonly accepted that ikit and snikch are broke and not balanced at all.