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My predictions/wishlist for the upcoming WH2 DLC's

Ferestor#5771Ferestor#5771 Registered Users Posts: 1,313
Hey guys,

i made a similar post a few weeks ago, so with the new Information’s I want to update my predications and expectations for WH2 DLC’s and FLC’s. I will talk a lot about LP so if you don’t like these than maybe you should not read further, so with that said let’s begin.

First off, my predictions are based on my opinion that CA will make every race from WH1 playable in Vortex, also they have said that they wish to bring every race at WH2 standard. (in the stream from Feb.) Also I think that all core races from WH2 should get 6 lords. The Names of the units I take from the Warhammer Wiki (warhammerfantasy.fandom.com) side. So with that said here a my DLC prediction/Wishlist. ^^


1. DLC LP HE vs. GS FLC HE

The first DLC I will talk about is the DLC we all are expecting. Eltharion the Grim for the HE and Grom the Paunch.
The new units for the HE, i expect the griffons and the lion chariots, maybe also the lothern skycutters. The new Lord type would be the Archmage (mount option Horse and Eagle or Griffon) and the new hero could be the Lothern sea helms (mount option Skycutter).
The starting position should be Yvresse in Vortex and ME. There main enemy’s in Vortex at the beginning would be Norsca (Skaeling), VP (Sartosa) and the GS (Grom’s Waagh).

For the GS the new units should be new variants of Black Orc’s (Halberd, Sword and Shield) Giant Squig and maybe the wyvern, maybe also the Spear Chukkas. The new hero would be the Orc Great Shaman (mount option boar and wyvern) The new hero would be the Orc big Boss (mount option Boar, maybe wyvern)
The starting position in Vortex should be in my opinion be selectable by the player. You can choose between 3 different invasion points of Ulthuan. One from the east near Cothique, on in the north near Charce and one in the south-west near Caledor. I think that could be an interesting concept and is lore friendly with the invasion of Ulthuan. In ME you should start near Ulthuan as an invasion with two choices (east or west), so the HE have a harder time at the beginning. With the DLC comes the update to the GS. I hope for a better Waagh! Mechanic. Also I think that Grimgor will be moved to a new location and Azhag will be left in Black Crag.

The FLC in my opinion will be Prince Imrik.
He starts in Caledor. His mount options are a Dragon Prince Horse and a Dragon. He has a special hero unit like Alith and Alarielle the Dragon Mages.

With this DLC and FLC the HE have 6 Lords

For the release we know that news was planned late April or the beginning of May. Know they say May. So I think the teaser will come at the 12th of May and the trailer at the 13th of May. The release Date would than be the 28th of May.


2. DLC LP SK vs. DW FLC VC

The second DLC this year in my opinion will be the Skaven vs Dwarfs LP with Throt the Unclean vs. Joseph Bugman or Thorek Ironbrow.
The choice for Clan Moulder is obvious in my opinion if you look at the game now. They have a unique start location in ME and they are one of the four Clans for Eshin. The new units i expect are giant rats or rat packs, new variants of Rat Ogre and maybe a new Hell-pit Abomination (maybe with a warpstone canon?) The new lord could be the Master Moulder and the hero would be the moulder. The mount option could be a rat ogre and a Hell-pit Abomination for the Master. The verminlords i think will come in WH3 with Thanquol who will not come in WH2 according to the stream.
The start position in ME is clear in Hellpit, but in Vortex they could start either near Ulthan to give the HE a harder time or in the wastelands north of Naggarond or north of the Deadwood Sentinels.

The Dwarfs new unit for Bugman could be the rune golem, an infantry variant of the rangers (stealth and forward deployment). The new lord type could be a ranger lord and the hero a ranger captain. With the new lord the Dwarfs will get a range lord who they are missing in the moment. His campaign should focus on exterminating the GS and he should have a higher chance to ambush an army.
His start position on Vortex is limited, because all the dwarf’s factions are in the densest areas of the map. Spine of Sortek in Lustria or Greybeard’s Prospectors are the two choices I think are the best of the three. I would choose the Spine of Sortek and would name the faction Bugsman’s Company, or the faction could start in the north of Lustria to exterminate the Blue Vipers. In ME he should start in Zufbar. With the DLC Grombindal will be moved to Karak Drak to fight Norsca and Clan Moulder.

Another option for the dwarfs could be Thorek Ironbrow. He would give us a Runelord as an LL and would start in Karak Azul there he would make Eshins and the GS campaigns harder. The problem with him is that I don’t know what knew units except the Rune golem could come. As a new lord could come a Master Engineer but for a new hero I have no ideas. He is an ultra-traditional so new units like thunders and Gyrocopters would cost more in upkeep and recruitment. Both could be interesting to play. From a starting position point of view (ME) Thorek is more interesting than Bugman. What are you guys thinking?

For the FLC I chose here the VC. This could be unlikely because Repanse and Bretonnia were a FLC Race and VC belong to the core races of WH1, but for my future assumption i need the FLC to be VC. The Lord i would choose is Neferata. As a Vampire she is the best choice, because Khalida speaks of her and she would fit in well in the current map. In ME she could be placed in the new territory of Nagash. (I don’t think Nagash will come as an extra Race so that’s why this is my choice) Or maybe in the south in Lahmia. In Vortex she would play in the southlands and as an objective she would need to exterminate all the TK. Especially Kahlida, maybe even in an End battle. As a special mount I could imagine a Coven Throne for her and her Lahmian vampires.

With this DLC the Skaven have 6 LL and Dwarfs and VC can be played in Vortex. Also these two WH1 races don’t need an overhaul so CA don’t need to invest as much time as in the first DLC.
For the release Date I think here by Sep. 2020.

3. DLC WE vs. BM FLC DE

This would be my last DLC for WH2 (Preorder not included). With the new information’s from the stream and the highly popular demand of an WE and BM overhaul and expansion I think CA will give us this DLC.
This will not be an DLC for an DLC, because you can play as the new Lords but not the WH1 lords if you didn’t buy the DLC for WH1. If you own the DLC for WH1 you can still play as the original factions but without the new lords and units only the mechanic changes are the same. This DLC need more work than the second and maybe even more then the GS DLC so the time frame could be huge here. So that in mind I think this DLC is more in the direction of a race pack than an LP so I think here could be 4 LL. So here are my LL wishes.

The Wood elves have only two LL so I think if we get a new DLC we will get 2 new LL. My hope is here that one LL will be the twilight sisters Naestra and Arahan and the other LL should be Drycha. For new units I hope for more variation of Dryads, Tree Kin and Treemen. (Different Tree types) And maybe as new “monster” a great Stag and a venom Dragon. As a new Lord unit would fit a Spellweaver as lord or a Dryad Lord. For a new hero maybe a captain from the wild riders but this is only an idea of mine. As for the starting positions in ME i think the Twilight sister should start in Laurelorn Forest. This would make an Empire and a Norsca campaign harder. For Drycha she should in the north-east of Naggarond near the Deadwood Sentinels. For Vortex the Twilight Sister should start in Oreons Camp and Drycha should have the same start position.

For the Beastmen I think one more Lord is enough for now. This Lord would be Taurox. As new Lords they need the Doombulls and the Great Bray-Shaman. As new hero the Wargor could come. For new units Tuskgor Chariots, Ghorgons and Jabberslythe. A rework of the horde mechanic would be needed in this DLC. As starting position Taurox should start in the new World to represent the BM there in Vortex and ME.

The last Lord I think should go to Boris Todbringer and Middenland. CA said that Boris will eventually come. New units could be the Cult of Ulric, but that I think should come in WH3 as an extra DLC. Also I think Boris should not be playable in the vortex campaign. I really don’t have an idea where he should fight.

The FLC most be in this case a WH2 race because this DLC is mostly for WH1 fans. So for WH2 the last race to have a 6 Lord is the DE. My choice here is Rakarth. With the last DLC we got the Beastmasters so it would make sense to include the best Beastmaster ever. His starting position in Vortex could be in the new World were all the other DE Lords are or the more interesting choice would be in the north of the southland. In ME he could start in the new regions of the Darklands.

This would be my choices/wishes for this DLC. As for a release Date I think because here would be needed much more time that this could be released Jan/Feb 2021.


4. Pre-Order race

The Pre-Order is a though one. I still think we will get the Southern Realms (as they are called in the game at the moment) as a Pre-Order. The problem here is that I don’t think we will get 4 LL. I think there will only be 2 LL like Norsca. These 2 would be in my opinion Borgio the Besieger for Tilea and Lucrezzia Belladonna for Estalia. They would have an Empire/Bretonnia style main army with Mercenary’s from other Races as filler units, like for monsters etc.
There starting position in ME world be clear and for Vortex CA must expand the map a little to make them playable. Even if its only for one lord and the other could fight in Araby or take control of the new Colonies in north Lustria.

This would be a good Pre-Order, but I think or more I wish there should be also a new Norsca Lord. Norsca as a faction doesn’t need a huge overhaul maybe a little but not a huge like GS or WE/BM. So an additional Norsca Lord would be nice to have. For the Lord I would Egil Styrbjorn and Skaeling as the faction. He could start in Albion in Vortex and in ME he could start north of Naggarond to make have another enemy then Empire for Norsca.

With this we have all WH1 races except the WoC playable in Vortex and all WH2 core races have 6 Lords. If CA is generous with us, they could at for the Pre-Order an WoC-Lord. But this option I think is first unlikely and second needs an overhaul of the race. But this also could give us a first impression of the Chaos playstyle in WH3. For the Lord I would take Valkia the Bloody with a similar mechanic like Malus so that she can change in her “demon form”.

For the release date of the Pre-Order I think Jun/Jul 2021 is realistic. WH3 in my opinion will come next year but not in the first half of the year. I think more like Sep./Okt. 2021.
For WH3 these are my 4 core races:
Kislev
Ogre Kingdom
Chaos Dwarfs
Demons of Chaos

But I wont talk about WH3 here.

The last DLC or more of an FLC I would say is the Red Duke and Mousilion. The Red Duke I think will be a gift for us, maybe at Halloween this year as an FLC for ME. He will not be playable in Vortex.


So that’s my thoughts on the upcoming DLC for WH2. Sorry if there are spelling mistakes, I’m not an English native.

What are you guys thinking on this?

Stay safe and healthy guys.

Comments

  • Maedrethnir#1968Maedrethnir#1968 Registered Users Posts: 19,433
    I think that the HE side is pretty underwhelming. Prince Imrik should be DLC in Game3 where he fits perfectly.

    I have just made a post in similar thread so let me shamelessly copy and paste and little modify it:

    LL: Yvressian Princeling
    L: Archmage - the most important missing generic L option - dragon mount should be one of his options
    L2: Sea Helm - rides LSC - second generic L to compensate for awful QnC
    LH: Korhil
    H: Mistwalkerboss or Mist Mage

    Units:
    1. The Lothern Skycutter - 1 of 2 missing 8ed units
    2. The White Lion Chariot - 2 of 2 missing 8ed units
    3. War Lions - there is no reason to not include them if we get WLC
    4. Merwyrm - model is done and 1 year and 6 months is more than enough to make animations for it
    5. Mistwalkers filler - for flavour's sake

    The Knights of Tor Gaval should be RoR. The Dark Elves have the Raven Heralds

    FLC: considering that DLC's roster will be split between Chrace and Eataine, then I say that Korhil or Finubar/Aislinn make the most sense.

    All dragon and phoenix related things I reserve for His Majsty the Crown Prince Imrik of the House Caledoran the Lord of Dragons in Game3.
  • manuel88manuel88 Registered Users Posts: 501
    edited April 2020
    Hahaha. Asur blood unites us but imrik distances us. I think eltharion. no imrik, will arrive. But I wouldn't mind. Both are great
  • The_Radude#3776The_Radude#3776 Registered Users Posts: 424
    Nice Speculation.

    Although for the GE vs HE DLC I hope we get either Feral Wyverns or Rogure Idolz as new units.
    But I really hope we get Orc Great Shaman as new Lortd type and Orc Big Boss as new Hero type.
    If we don't get wyvern units then I hope the Orc Big Boss comes with the option to mount a wyvern cause I want wyvern units or Rogue Idolz in my Grimgor army with hopefully more black orc variations.
  • AJH1987AJH1987 Registered Users Posts: 216
    It would be sort of funny if it *wasn't* Eltharion vs Grom at this point, given that everyone seems absolutely certain that it definitely will be.
  • Maedrethnir#1968Maedrethnir#1968 Registered Users Posts: 19,433
    manuel88 said:

    Hahaha. Asur blood unites us but imrik distances us. I think eltharion. no imrik, will arrive. But I wouldn't mind. Both are great

    Imrik is great, Eltharion is good at best! But if we get Eltharion DLC then Imrik shouldn't come as FLC considering their quality. He would better fit in Game3 with his own DLC.
  • Djau#5149Djau#5149 Registered Users Posts: 13,296
    AJH1987 said:

    It would be sort of funny if it *wasn't* Eltharion vs Grom at this point, given that everyone seems absolutely certain that it definitely will be.

    The teases by CA in the AMA regarding 'Dirty Dancing' type hints seem to point more towards Eltharion vs Throt w/Greenskin rework.

  • Redknight#3373Redknight#3373 Registered Users Posts: 513
    If I had to pick 2 LPs for WH2 with FLC I would choose

    1: Eltharion the Grim (HE) vs Grom the Paunch (GS) : FLC Taurox the Brass Bull (BM)
    2: Throt the Unclean (SK) vs Thorek Ironbrow (DW) : FLC Naestra and Arahan (WE)
  • General_Hijalti#1213General_Hijalti#1213 Registered Users Posts: 6,119
    edited April 2020


    CA have stated we will only be getting two more dlcs (although this might end up being only 1 due to current circumstances)
  • Draxynnic#3149Draxynnic#3149 Registered Users Posts: 11,664

    Nice Speculation.

    Although for the GE vs HE DLC I hope we get either Feral Wyverns or Rogure Idolz as new units.
    But I really hope we get Orc Great Shaman as new Lortd type and Orc Big Boss as new Hero type.
    If we don't get wyvern units then I hope the Orc Big Boss comes with the option to mount a wyvern cause I want wyvern units or Rogue Idolz in my Grimgor army with hopefully more black orc variations.

    I'm personally against greenskins getting feral wyverns as a general thing for the same reason as I'm opposed to High Elves getting Merwyrms (or, for that matter, Treemen and Treekin) - racial distinctiveness. Air power is not supposed to be a Greenskin trait. If it is something they ever get, it should be a faction speciality (maybe if Gorbad is resurrected, maybe added to an existing greenskin LL like Azhag) rather than available to all - force players to have to give up some other options to include them.

    I do think they should be more available as character mounts, though. Orc Shamans or Great Shamans with wyvern mounts I consider a must, as well as the Orc Big Boss.
  • General_Hijalti#1213General_Hijalti#1213 Registered Users Posts: 6,119
    Amonkhet said:

    AJH1987 said:

    It would be sort of funny if it *wasn't* Eltharion vs Grom at this point, given that everyone seems absolutely certain that it definitely will be.

    The teases by CA in the AMA regarding 'Dirty Dancing' type hints seem to point more towards Eltharion vs Throt w/Greenskin rework.
    That was a joke
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