Grom is probably the thickest villian around and we love him for that.
Theres a usual talk about GS update but not so much about Grom.
For example:
Will Grom be the first LL to come mounted from level 1? I personally think there's a chance he comes as footlord first.
Mazda is kinda mounted...
Will Grom count as large unit when on foot ?
Can he actually stand by himself?
Is Grom a reskin of a probably done Greesus for WH3?
Is there a flying unit that can carry Grom? Maybe CA can get creative.
Is Grom going to introduce some lore of the maw magic for WH2? He ate an ogre iirc
Grom is the only 8th LL left, chances of being replaced by another GS character? Low? Medium? High af?
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The final rose has faded,
The eaves will sing no more;
The waxen ground will keep you bound,
Death-pale until the thaw.
Then she placed the rest of Orion's ashes into the bowl and turned to face the Oak of Ages.
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0 · Disagree AgreeGrom can stand by himself.
No, he won’t have Maw magic.
I don’t think they’ll give him a wyvern mount, it would be silly.
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3 · Disagree AgreeHe somehow managed to defeat great many mon-keigh armies. Then he defeated a bunch of elves, mostly children and elders. When Eltharion came with regular forces then Grom lost in the first battle.
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2 · Disagree AgreeSome of the Brettonians are mounted from level 1, as is tic'taq'toe.
Why would a flying unit carry him, there is no basis for giving him a flying mount.
He isn't a mage and CA doesn't generally add lores of magic with lord packs.
He's not the only 8th edition greenskin lord left.
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1 · Disagree AgreeBefore leaving the mainland, he is mentioned to have had black orks in his waaagh. I didn’t see any mention of them coming with him to Ulthuan but there’s still hope for black ork variants coming with him in the DLC.
He could stand unsupported, he even had a great big axe and killed several princely elves personally during the invasion, so he’s no slouch. One of his magic items is a cape he got off one of them. He’s also got troll-like healing factors so he may come with regen.
Good lord, a chariot with regen, the potential there just struck me. He may well be an extremely mobile and durable lord.
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1 · Disagree AgreeBut i think he can walk but he kinda give it up quickly so, i think level one should be a normal chariot and then get his own personal.
He can’t do magic? He is not even a shaman.
But regen thanks to the troll meat
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0 · Disagree AgreeI not think soo.. so low
He literally have the strongest connection to the new world and the biggest impact of all orcs.
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0 · Disagree AgreeChopped into Steak Tartare and burned in a magical furnace after lengthy torture by Eltharion the Grim. Note he didn't reappear in The End Times in any way.
I'm assuming that'll be handwaved a la Repanse.
Am expecting in Campaign he'll encourage you to play an all-Goblin build like Skarsnik, but perhaps a more rush style and harder hitting by buffing them and giving them all Frenzy or something.
He himself I'm not expecting to be particularly overwhelming, a Large unit with Regen, and obviously with access to a Chariot being remarkably fast. As his model doesn't look very armoured I'd assume peppering him with arrows that do flaming damage to mitigate the Regen would be the way to deal with him.
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0 · Disagree AgreePointy ears say he drowned while running away, but goblins and some mature high elves tell that he ran to the mountains of Ulthuan to hide.
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0 · Disagree AgreeOption 2) He ran into the mountains, spent the rest of his days eating the beasties that live there, and lived happily ever after. After all, he never returned.
Option 3) Was tortured to death in a way so horrifying Eltharion was too ashamed to tell his fellow Helfs of it. Which makes you wonder what it must have been to elicit that reaction afterwards.
I'm assuming, if we get an explanation, it'll be something like Option 2, he'll have spent some time in the magic, saturated Mountains recovering his strength, and used the magic of the Waystones somehow to call other Goblins to him.
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0 · Disagree AgreeSome of the Brettonians are mounted from level 1, as is tic'taq'toe.
Why would a flying unit carry him, there is no basis for giving him a flying mount.
He isn't a mage and CA doesn't generally add lores of magic with lord packs.
He's not the only 8th edition greenskin lord left.
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0 · Disagree Agree(There's a part of me hoping that we'll finally see Greenskins in Naggaroth, since there are supposed to be greenskins there according to the fluff. OTOH, though, putting a greenskin LL in Naggaroth might have the net effect of reducing the threat to Ulthuan rather than increasing it, and would encourage Eltharion to look west like Tyrion, Alarielle, and Alith Anar, which would be unfortunate.)
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0 · Disagree AgreePlus, High Elf diplomatic traits mean that any such faction is probably going to get ganged up on and wiped out early.
Placing Grom close enough to be a midgame threat to the High Elves, without actually being ON Ulthuan, is probably a better approach for both lore and gameplay reasons. Giving him a base in the mountains of Estalia could possibly work well in Mortal Empires - it'd give him a chance to establish himself somewhere where the HE diplomatic traits won't cause them to jump on him right away, but close enough to start becoming a threat before Ulthuan fully unites. For the Vortex... it's harder to find a suitable location that doesn't disrupt other aspects of gameplay. Albion might work if he's given the ability to do reasonably well in Chaos Wasteland territory.
EDIT: If Eltharion starts in Yvresse, we can probably also expect to see a lot of Yvresse starting off occupied by greenskins to give him a starting enemy, but I don't think that should be Grom's starting faction: it'd force the confrontation far too early in the campaign. However, they might give Grom an incentive to intervene early before Eltharion finishes cleaning them up.
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0 · Disagree AgreeBut anyway, we passed that point a long time ago. What matters is that the map gets more and more crowded while 1/4 of it (if we are talking Vortex) remains unused.
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0 · Disagree AgreePlus he's fairly close to Ulthuan when the time comes without getting steamrolled by the whole continent (which is what will likely happen if he starts on it).
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