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Lol, I had Epic installed for 2 years now and they didn't steal anything from me that I know of.
Well you wouldn't, would you? Defies the point of covertly stealing digital information if you ensure the user gets a pop-up telling them it's happening!
But no you're probably safe enough in that regard where Epic is concerned. Pretty sure the US government can demand any data held on you by Steam or Epic via The Patriot Act anyway, so it's a moot point.
More that you shouldn't really reward Epic for the methods it's currently using. Throwing big money to ensure exclusives instead of actually providing a good service isn't good for us as consumers in the long run.
For in spite of all temptations. To belong to other nations. He remains an Englishman.
This is a SAGA title, aka an experimental one. As hey said they decided to go with EPIC for Troy because it is not a main TW title like Rome 2, Warhammer or Three Kingdoms
Also don't spread false info or fear-mongering thinking that TWW 3 might release on EPIC first. That would be beyond stupid as the reason why people love TWW is because they can be connected. Now CA might release the trilogy on EPIC but most likely after it is completed on Steam.
Guess I'll get it on 13 august 2021 on steam at half off, if its still on my mind by then. They either got one big paycheck from Epic or they arent confident in Troy at all.
The problem I see for CA long term is it's profits will dip dramatically once the Warhammer franchise is over. Those who came to Total War via that aren't seemingly interested in the historical stuff, and are unlikely to stick around. And investors tend to get a bit irritated when profits dip, even when there's a perfectly sensible reason.
Don't try to bypass the word filter.
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For in spite of all temptations. To belong to other nations. He remains an Englishman.
If they release Warhammer 3 on Epic exclusive I expect the piracy rate to increase significantly, so I caution CA on any irrational move, since the Vampire coast is lurking just around the corner.
Guess I'll get it on 13 august 2021 on steam at half off, if its still on my mind by then. They either got one big paycheck from Epic or they arent confident in Troy at all.
The problem I see for CA long term is it's profits will dip dramatically once the Warhammer franchise is over. Those who came to Total War via that aren't seemingly interested in the historical stuff, and are unlikely to stick around. And investors tend to get a bit irritated when profits dip, even when there's a perfectly sensible reason.
The Warhammer franchise is far from over. They could even extend it with End Times content, and they could start anew with 40k. I'm not worried about their success, but whether they'll keep their moral values in the long run, that's hard to say. Look at what happened to Bethesda.
I think it is too soon to jump into conclusions. Let us hope Warhammer 3 will not be affected by this & this is a Saga thing... Remember how well ToB's success went.
I think it is too soon to jump into conclusions. Let us hope Warhammer 3 will not be affected by this & this is a Saga thing... Otherwise... Well. ****.
So people should just wait until CA goes ''oh btw, remember that one time we said that no other games will be exclusive on Epic? Yeah, we got a fat check from our Chinese Tencent Overlords and decided to make it exclusive. **** you fans! ''.
This is a SAGA title, aka an experimental one. As hey said they decided to go with EPIC for Troy because it is not a main TW title like Rome 2, Warhammer or Three Kingdoms
I dont see them making warhammer 3 an exclusive, taking CA at their word but for anything in the future I wouldn't be surprised.
Remember SAGA titles are experiments, like you said, and if TROY's experiment proves to be profitable, whats to stop CA from releasing all their games in the future as timed exclusive? A statement or post is easily forgotten.
This is a SAGA title, aka an experimental one. As hey said they decided to go with EPIC for Troy because it is not a main TW title like Rome 2, Warhammer or Three Kingdoms
I dont see them making warhammer 3 an exclusive, taking CA at their word but for anything in the future I wouldn't be surprised.
Remember SAGA titles are experiments, like you said, and if TROY's experiment proves to be profitable, whats to stop CA from releasing all their games in the future as timed exclusive? A statement or post is easily forgotten.
If it proves to be profitable then they are allowed to consider repeating it, they're a company not a charity, how they make money is completely their decision, not to mention it's not CA's decision to make in the first place but rather SEGA's. Console exclusives have existed for ages now, people should stop being surprised that it's a practise now emerging in computer games.
Regardless the fact the previous games are already on steam makes it impossible for it to be an exclusive
This is a SAGA title, aka an experimental one. As hey said they decided to go with EPIC for Troy because it is not a main TW title like Rome 2, Warhammer or Three Kingdoms
I dont see them making warhammer 3 an exclusive, taking CA at their word but for anything in the future I wouldn't be surprised.
Remember SAGA titles are experiments, like you said, and if TROY's experiment proves to be profitable, whats to stop CA from releasing all their games in the future as timed exclusive? A statement or post is easily forgotten.
If it proves to be profitable then they are allowed to consider repeating it, they're a company not a charity, how they make money is completely their decision, not to mention it's not CA's decision to make in the first place but rather SEGA's. Console exclusives have existed for ages now, people should stop being surprised that it's a practise now emerging in computer games.
Regardless the fact the previous games are already on steam makes it impossible for it to be an exclusive
They are allowed to do anything. Look at Bethesda, EA or Naughty Dogs. However the fans are also allowed to say ''no more ****. We had enough''.
This is a SAGA title, aka an experimental one. As hey said they decided to go with EPIC for Troy because it is not a main TW title like Rome 2, Warhammer or Three Kingdoms
I dont see them making warhammer 3 an exclusive, taking CA at their word but for anything in the future I wouldn't be surprised.
Remember SAGA titles are experiments, like you said, and if TROY's experiment proves to be profitable, whats to stop CA from releasing all their games in the future as timed exclusive? A statement or post is easily forgotten.
If it proves to be profitable then they are allowed to consider repeating it, they're a company not a charity, how they make money is completely their decision, not to mention it's not CA's decision to make in the first place but rather SEGA's. Console exclusives have existed for ages now, people should stop being surprised that it's a practise now emerging in computer games.
Regardless the fact the previous games are already on steam makes it impossible for it to be an exclusive
I'm not surprised really, they can do what they want, like you said, business is business and it would't be smart not to follow the money. With that being said however, I have no intention of following them on that road.
Its not a boycott as I have previously already said that I'll get it eventually on steam and if I have to wait a year then so be it, backlogged by a couple hundred games anyways.
In case you missed it, A Total War Saga: TROY was revealed today to be a one-year exclusive on the Epic Store.
Just so you know, CA, if WH3 turns out to be an Epic exclusive too, you'll face a far greater backlash than any you've had so far. Don't do this to your fans who stayed loyal for the Warhammer journey.
No, they won't. People will whine and complain, but they will still buy it from the Epic Store. They will do this because, at the end of the day, it is a minor inconvenience to have games in Epic and Steam rather than everything consolidated in Steam. If CA does their analysis and projects that they will make more $$$ through Epic rather than pay the charges that Steam imposes, they will go with Epic.
If the game is good, people really don't care if it is offered via Steam or Epic or something else. I agree it is annoying, but that's capitalism baby.
In case you missed it, A Total War Saga: TROY was revealed today to be a one-year exclusive on the Epic Store.
Just so you know, CA, if WH3 turns out to be an Epic exclusive too, you'll face a far greater backlash than any you've had so far. Don't do this to your fans who stayed loyal for the Warhammer journey.
No, they won't. People will whine and complain, but they will still buy it from the Epic Store. They will do this because, at the end of the day, it is a minor inconvenience to have games in Epic and Steam rather than everything consolidated in Steam. If CA does their analysis and projects that they will make more $$$ through Epic rather than pay the charges that Steam imposes, they will go with Epic.
If the game is good, people really don't care if it is offered via Steam or Epic or something else. I agree it is annoying, but that's capitalism baby.
Don't bet on it. Many do not like Epic store since it's a **** platform, and on top of that their waiting time for Warhammer 3 timeframe did not help neither along with the BS that went on with WH2. In case people have to choose between installing a platform that spies on you and has lost the data of the users to hackers and NOT buying the game, they will pick the latter, and chances are that they might just pirate it and call it a day.
There are lines that should never be crossed by the companies unless they want massive backlashes. Look at the current industry and you have plenty of examples. You think people want to go through the BS WH2 went through BEFORE wh3 even gets released? Not a chance.
That's disgusting. I've already abandoned several titles and series, some I was midway through and heavily invested in because of this sort of behavior. I'm no longer a customer of Blizzard, the Metro series was a sad let go, along with Borderlands. I'll gladly add CA to the list if they pull that and part of me already thinks I should because of this.
It's a bad business practice double dipping like this for an early pay out. Don't make a habit of it CA, not everyone is lacking in self control with their purchases and you will lose customers.
In case you missed it, A Total War Saga: TROY was revealed today to be a one-year exclusive on the Epic Store.
Just so you know, CA, if WH3 turns out to be an Epic exclusive too, you'll face a far greater backlash than any you've had so far. Don't do this to your fans who stayed loyal for the Warhammer journey.
Also one more thing, Epic is a much better platform than steam. They are giving out a lot of free stuff (game creation assests and free games) when steam doesn't give you ****. This was a great move from CA.
Epic isn't a better platform, the UI is horrible, it lacks so many features, it's more expensive oh yeah and it downloads spyware onto your computer
So a game I wasn't going to get is being given away for free?
Let me check the internet.... yep everyone is incredibly angry about it. Glad to know the world still has some things you can rely on.
The fact it is given for free is not the problem, it is the fact it will be exclusive on Epic games. That means further implications for future titles. WH3 is a future title.
So a game I wasn't going to get is being given away for free?
Let me check the internet.... yep everyone is incredibly angry about it. Glad to know the world still has some things you can rely on.
No one's bothered by it being given away from free and you should know that. It's about the platform it's on and the exclusivity contract. Epic has serious issues and this is a common practice of theirs to try and draw people in. It looks good on the surface, but they run a terrible service anyone who doesn't think it's that bad simply aren't in the know about it.
Not to mention at the end of the day exclusivity contracts are just slimy, the game is ready and good to go, but they've paid off a ton of companies by now to only launch on their service for a time in an attempt to bottleneck people interested in those titles having to go through their service. It's anti-consumer and you should recognize that and not encourage it even if you don't care about any of the other points.
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0 · Disagree AgreeBut no you're probably safe enough in that regard where Epic is concerned. Pretty sure the US government can demand any data held on you by Steam or Epic via The Patriot Act anyway, so it's a moot point.
More that you shouldn't really reward Epic for the methods it's currently using. Throwing big money to ensure exclusives instead of actually providing a good service isn't good for us as consumers in the long run.
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Remember how well ToB's success went.
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