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ptavangarptavangar Registered Users Posts: 1,170
Just some suggestions on how to make them better and more useful.

1. We could give gyrocopter variants (both) the ability to fire-whilst-moving.
2. All gyrocopters and bombers should probably have AP weapon strength since I believe they use their rotors to attack and they are whirling metal blades... Plus, their WS could probably be higher.
3. We could even give them a bonus vs. infantry in melee and lower their MA slightly to compensate. Their blades are the type of weapon that would be especially effective (in theory) against infantry and not as effective against larger entities that would be harder to cut through due to mass.
4. Give the gyrobomber more ammunition. They go through their ammo surprisingly fast if you can actually keep them alive...

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  • Loupi_Loupi_ Registered Users Posts: 1,722
  • kasunrathnatungakasunrathnatunga Registered Users Posts: 4,031
    They are not bad suggestions but wish he would stay around defend them..
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia
  • Loupi_Loupi_ Registered Users Posts: 1,722
    seriously you have made 6 thread on the first page alone, and then you dont even bother sticking around to discuss
  • kasunrathnatungakasunrathnatunga Registered Users Posts: 4,031
    We are improving though. Now we don't get the date as title.
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia
  • Loupi_Loupi_ Registered Users Posts: 1,722

    We are improving though. Now we don't get the date as title.

    its true, and he doesnt tag duck anymore
  • kasunrathnatungakasunrathnatunga Registered Users Posts: 4,031
    Eventually he will grace us with a comment or two.
    But aren't these gyro suggestions floating around for a long time.
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia
  • Loupi_Loupi_ Registered Users Posts: 1,722
    gyros are really good now, no need to make them better
  • kasunrathnatungakasunrathnatunga Registered Users Posts: 4,031
    They are indeed may be in a future dlc they could do a OC gyro varient or two.
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia
  • eumaieseumaies Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 6,130
    Gyros seem quite good already.

    They maybe would be more interesting with a more melee oriented variant, but bonus vs infantry doesn't seem particularly relevant.

    Ammo is limited precisely because they are horse archer units and you don't want them over-determining the game outcome if you didn't bring the right counters.
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    The skyhammer should have terror. No question.
  • kasunrathnatungakasunrathnatunga Registered Users Posts: 4,031
    Well there is the proto gyrocopter from the war of vengeance that had three dawi crew and were troop transports.
    There is war balloon from man of war.
    And the thunderbarage which honestly i have the slightest clue how they could implement it.

    I always wanted gyro chopter charger. High charge bonus low stats.

    And a gryro bomber varient with terror, and a cannon like flying steam tank, minus the bombs.

    And gyro mounts for engineer.
    And a engineer lord

    Well i went super off topic now.
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 24,667
    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

  • Loupi_Loupi_ Registered Users Posts: 1,722

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    hes pushing his own threads off the main page :lol:
  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USARegistered Users, Moderators, Knights Posts: 19,711

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    Loupi_ said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    hes pushing his own threads off the main page :lol:
    Actually, that happens mostly due to all the people making post comments that complain about frequent posting. The OP is allowed to post threads as long as they comply with the Forum Terms & Conditions. There is no requirement that "anyone or everyone" has to post a reply.
    "The two most common things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity." - Harlan Ellison
    "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." - Hubert H. Humphrey
    "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - George Carlin
  • BastileanBastilean Registered Users Posts: 440
  • SarmatiansSarmatians Registered Users Posts: 3,957
    dge1 said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    Loupi_ said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    hes pushing his own threads off the main page :lol:
    Actually, that happens mostly due to all the people making post comments that complain about frequent posting. The OP is allowed to post threads as long as they comply with the Forum Terms & Conditions. There is no requirement that "anyone or everyone" has to post a reply.
    This is not related to balance. It should be moved to Feedback and Suggestions.
  • innerpinnerp Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 650

    dge1 said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    Loupi_ said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    hes pushing his own threads off the main page :lol:
    Actually, that happens mostly due to all the people making post comments that complain about frequent posting. The OP is allowed to post threads as long as they comply with the Forum Terms & Conditions. There is no requirement that "anyone or everyone" has to post a reply.
    This is not related to balance. It should be moved to Feedback and Suggestions.
    it is, even if its dumb. since the janitor cant do anything about it maybe you should all just stop replying to him.
  • SarmatiansSarmatians Registered Users Posts: 3,957
    innerp said:

    dge1 said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    Loupi_ said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    hes pushing his own threads off the main page :lol:
    Actually, that happens mostly due to all the people making post comments that complain about frequent posting. The OP is allowed to post threads as long as they comply with the Forum Terms & Conditions. There is no requirement that "anyone or everyone" has to post a reply.
    This is not related to balance. It should be moved to Feedback and Suggestions.
    it is, even if its dumb. since the janitor cant do anything about it maybe you should all just stop replying to him.
    No. It is not. Balance is usually about changing units for a reason.

    Like, dwarfs need help to defeat infantry, maybe we can add anti infantry to gyros. Or gyros need buff for such and such reasons. Or gyrobombers need more ammo because reasons...

    I'd like Gyros to be like that because I think they should be like that is a suggestion, pure and simple.
  • Ephraim_DaltonEphraim_Dalton Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 24,667
    Yeah, it's always "X should happen because I thought of it". There's never an argument how it would affect the balance of the game positively, just his gut telling him things. It really should be moved to F&S.

  • mightygloinmightygloin Registered Users Posts: 2,570
    Hey at least his threads allows others to discuss the topic. Couldn't care less if he vanishes as long as the topic is something.

    Would like these changes actually with reduced cap on gyros. They should be more rare, but somehow stronger.
  • innerpinnerp Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 650

    innerp said:

    dge1 said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    Loupi_ said:

    He's pushing other, more important threads off the main page with this hit and run spamming. Half-baked ideas he doesn't bother to debate.

    Can we please have a ruling that he can't do that?

    hes pushing his own threads off the main page :lol:
    Actually, that happens mostly due to all the people making post comments that complain about frequent posting. The OP is allowed to post threads as long as they comply with the Forum Terms & Conditions. There is no requirement that "anyone or everyone" has to post a reply.
    This is not related to balance. It should be moved to Feedback and Suggestions.
    it is, even if its dumb. since the janitor cant do anything about it maybe you should all just stop replying to him.
    No. It is not. Balance is usually about changing units for a reason.

    Like, dwarfs need help to defeat infantry, maybe we can add anti infantry to gyros. Or gyros need buff for such and such reasons. Or gyrobombers need more ammo because reasons...

    I'd like Gyros to be like that because I think they should be like that is a suggestion, pure and simple.
    you could levy that arguement against half the threads on this forum
  • dge1dge1 Moderator Arkansas, USARegistered Users, Moderators, Knights Posts: 19,711
    Post removed. Last chance to discuss the thread topic and not the originator of the thread. From now on it will be points.
    "The two most common things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity." - Harlan Ellison
    "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." - Hubert H. Humphrey
    "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - George Carlin
  • kasunrathnatungakasunrathnatunga Registered Users Posts: 4,031
    so gyros get all these buffs great, yay
    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia
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