Future DLC prediction: everyone wins!

Magicspook

Hi everyone,

Since our lord prophet Manuel took the slayer oath and died a (frankly most embarrassing) death against a bretonnian peasant, I would like to step forward as the new uber predictiman of this forum. But I claim no supernatural gifts; being a man of science, my predictions are based on a few facts and mostly educated guesswork. Keep in mind that my predictions are regarding the structure of the comig DLCs rather than the exact content of the DLCs.


Let's start with the former: what do we know?

*the next DLC features the wood elves and one WH2 race.

*it is the last DLC, or the one that preceeds the last DLC. CA intentionally left this vague.

*CA hinted that if this next DLC is well recoeved, we'd get more of this type. (Likely beastmen because they are in a similar situation). This 'stacks' with the previous point to suggests they are unsure how well recieved the next DLC will be, which will determine if there will be a final LP.

*dark elves and skaven are both 1 LL behind the other core WH2 races

*CA have expressed an interest in brining all races to a similar level before WH3.


Filling in the facts with a little guesswork, my theory goes like this:

*there are two more DLC coming, one of which is the recently announced WE lord pack, which matches WE with either DE or SK (still not convinced by the skaven markings in the last trailer)

*the next DLC will be BM vs the remaining WH2 race with 5 lords (both Throt and Rakarth makes sense vs BM),

*which means that WE (2+LP+FLC) and BM (3+LP) will reach 4 lords like TK and VP, and skaven and dark elves will get to 6 lords like the other WH2 core races.

*there is still the matter of the FLC that will undoubtedly accompany the next DLC. My guess is that it will be a lord for either norsca or WoC, bringing their lord count closer to the golden number of 4 lords.


What do you guys think? Do you agree with my reasoning?

BungyFlungy

Yeah there is at least one more. I’m gonna off and say Norsca and Dark Elves is the next lord pack. Norsca only has 2 LL and could benefit from what CA is doing with the WE

UberReptilian#8431

I can see the logic. I'm convinced they'll be a Beastmen DLC after this one too, but I'd rather Dark Elves get an FLC LL and a race like the Tomb Kings or even another Warhammer 1 race get a LP. What would a Dark Elf DLC even add besides lame, redundant stuff that is the ultimate scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even Lizardmen and High Elves have at least one unit remaining for a LP, but what do the Druchii have?
Point is I don't see Dark Elves getting another LP.

Captain_Rex#1635

I expect something similar but BM should also get 2 LLs with their LP.
Since they have to many fancy units (Ghorgon, Jabber) it is likely that they will get 2 more LPs, which means 4 more LLs. This would bring them up to 7 LLs which would be fine since they have a bigger presence in the world than WE.

- Ghorros
- Taurox
- Moonclaw
- Slugtongue

BM need all of them!

Captain_Rex#1635

UberReptilian said:

I can see the logic. I'm convinced they'll be a Beastmen DLC after this one too, but I'd rather Dark Elves get an FLC LL and a race like the Tomb Kings or even another Warhammer 1 race get a LP. What would a Dark Elf DLC even add besides lame, redundant stuff that is the ultimate scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even Lizardmen and High Elves have at least one unit remaining for a LP, but what do the Druchii have?
Point is I don't see Dark Elves getting another LP.

adding the Cult of Slaanesh list along a WE LL makes a lot of sense

UberReptilian#8431

ArneSo said:

UberReptilian said:

I can see the logic. I'm convinced they'll be a Beastmen DLC after this one too, but I'd rather Dark Elves get an FLC LL and a race like the Tomb Kings or even another Warhammer 1 race get a LP. What would a Dark Elf DLC even add besides lame, redundant stuff that is the ultimate scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even Lizardmen and High Elves have at least one unit remaining for a LP, but what do the Druchii have?
Point is I don't see Dark Elves getting another LP.

adding the Cult of Slaanesh list along a WE LL makes a lot of sense

Problem is most of that list is renamed versions of things we already have and stuff that is going to come with Chaos Daemons like Keepers of Secrets.
There's Devoted of Slannesh and Druchii Anointed as non-Daemon new units. A lord and a infantry unit. Not very exciting.

MeGa_N00B#2436

If Skaven the faction that has the most love, mechanics, units can get one more any other core faction can get one more LP. Especially the DE can use one since they have 5 LLs.

BM LP is a must after WE one.

Crossil#2134

UberReptilian said:

ArneSo said:

UberReptilian said:

I can see the logic. I'm convinced they'll be a Beastmen DLC after this one too, but I'd rather Dark Elves get an FLC LL and a race like the Tomb Kings or even another Warhammer 1 race get a LP. What would a Dark Elf DLC even add besides lame, redundant stuff that is the ultimate scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even Lizardmen and High Elves have at least one unit remaining for a LP, but what do the Druchii have?
Point is I don't see Dark Elves getting another LP.

adding the Cult of Slaanesh list along a WE LL makes a lot of sense

Problem is most of that list is renamed versions of things we already have and stuff that is going to come with Chaos Daemons like Keepers of Secrets.
There's Devoted of Slannesh and Druchii Anointed as non-Daemon new units. A lord and a infantry unit. Not very exciting.

Actually, the Druchii Annointed are in fact half-daemonic. Or, at least so corrupt that they aren't entirely elves.

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Druchii_Anointed

Other than that, who exactly thinks that adding Slaaneshi worshipping units makes sense with a Khainite LL? I can imagine a grab bag, but a literal opposite?

There's also the problem that Slaanesh worship is officially banned in DE empire. Sure, you have Morathi secretly doing it, but throwing in bodily corrupted elves is not really working. They would be as reviled by DE at large as DE are reviled by HE at large.

Captain_Rex#1635

UberReptilian said:

ArneSo said:

UberReptilian said:

I can see the logic. I'm convinced they'll be a Beastmen DLC after this one too, but I'd rather Dark Elves get an FLC LL and a race like the Tomb Kings or even another Warhammer 1 race get a LP. What would a Dark Elf DLC even add besides lame, redundant stuff that is the ultimate scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even Lizardmen and High Elves have at least one unit remaining for a LP, but what do the Druchii have?
Point is I don't see Dark Elves getting another LP.

adding the Cult of Slaanesh list along a WE LL makes a lot of sense

Problem is most of that list is renamed versions of things we already have and stuff that is going to come with Chaos Daemons like Keepers of Secrets.
There's Devoted of Slannesh and Druchii Anointed as non-Daemon new units. A lord and a infantry unit. Not very exciting.

These could be only 2 things for the DE. We could also get stuff like the Fleetmaster, Manflyers, Black Ark Reavers, the Pagowyrm and whatever obscure lore unit DE still have.

WE will be the focus of this LP so adding some cheap units to the DE would be fine

Lunaticprince#9972

I believe too that they gonna do a BM lord after.

But DE make kinda sense in lore they have a high beastman population in naggoroth and malus darblade book was even a beastman shaman the villain.

NoSkill4U#6552

I mean, we still have a potential Empire DLC with Helborg and Knights of the White wolf and Knights Panther.

Or a Middenland DLC?

Captain_Rex#1635

TeNoSkill said:

I mean, we still have a potential Empire DLC with Helborg and Knights of the White wolf and Knights Panther.

Or a Middenland DLC?

Not in WH2 buddy

MeGa_N00B#2436

TeNoSkill said:

I mean, we still have a potential Empire DLC with Helborg and Knights of the White wolf and Knights Panther.

Or a Middenland DLC?

Empire needs more than one LP in game 3. They are missing so many cool characters and units. Same for Vampires, who are still missing Nagash and Neferata.

Magicspook

UberReptilian said:

I can see the logic. I'm convinced they'll be a Beastmen DLC after this one too, but I'd rather Dark Elves get an FLC LL and a race like the Tomb Kings or even another Warhammer 1 race get a LP. What would a Dark Elf DLC even add besides lame, redundant stuff that is the ultimate scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even Lizardmen and High Elves have at least one unit remaining for a LP, but what do the Druchii have?
Point is I don't see Dark Elves getting another LP.

It’s possible that DE will just be one of the comig FLCs rather than part of a lord pack. In that case, whichever race I thought'd get the FLC spot can take over in the LP.

AxiosXiphos#9040

Guys this is very likely the last lord pack for Warhammer 2...

Grace said there was two more coming prior to the Warden & the Paunch; meaning that was included. We are starting to get towards the time when Warhammer 3 will be announced (seems likely it will be this year). As such the only DLC people should expect is the pre-order one; whatever that is - which may come ith a beastmen rework in tail.

Unless the pre-order is a lord pack; this WE one is the last.

Neodeinos#5871

AxiosXiphos said:

Guys this is very likely the last lord pack for Warhammer 2...

Grace said there was two more coming prior to the Warden & the Paunch; meaning that was included. We are starting to get towards the time when Warhammer 3 will be announced (seems likely it will be this year). As such the only DLC people should expect is the pre-order one; whatever that is - which may come ith a beastmen rework in tail.

Unless the pre-order is a lord pack; this WE one is the last.

Grace said it also wasn't set in stone and if WH3 is delayed (which seems to be according to their blog) then they can probably afford making more DLCs for Warhammer 2.

Timpeyo#7210

I'm thinking maybe the preorder is to do with BM, WoC and possabily Norsca but will have to see.

Ferestor#5771

I think the WE will be the last DLC and the BM will come in a pre-order DLC.

BM vs WoC/Norsca with DE FLC is my guess. The Skaven i'm sure will come with the WE.

This would give CA the chance to get these 3 up to 4 or 3 LL. Also it fits with the announcement of the new WH1 Edition.

Hopefully it will be Taurox vs Valkia and maybe a Norsca Lord for owner of WH1 and Norsca.

RamsesIII#4621

Wouldn't it make more sense for BM to also get a FLC lord if you have the old DLC? Unless the reward is different, like a Legendary Hero or a special unit.

AxiosXiphos#9040

neodeinos said:

AxiosXiphos said:

Guys this is very likely the last lord pack for Warhammer 2...

Grace said there was two more coming prior to the Warden & the Paunch; meaning that was included. We are starting to get towards the time when Warhammer 3 will be announced (seems likely it will be this year). As such the only DLC people should expect is the pre-order one; whatever that is - which may come ith a beastmen rework in tail.

Unless the pre-order is a lord pack; this WE one is the last.

Grace said it also wasn't set in stone and if WH3 is delayed (which seems to be according to their blog) then they can probably afford making more DLCs for Warhammer 2.

Yeah but she was indicating that it might be less then two; not more. Warhammer 3 has been delayed; but if they are at the point of saying it's delayed then that means it's not far away at least announcement wise. It's very likely to be this year which leaves no time for another (non-preorder) lord pack.

55JoNNo#4925

the release of the savage edition makes me think that the pre-order bonus for game 3 will be Beastmen v WoC

Ferestor#5771

RamsesIII said:

Wouldn't it make more sense for BM to also get a FLC lord if you have the old DLC? Unless the reward is different, like a Legendary Hero or a special unit.

The WE only have 2 LL the Beastmen at least have 3. Maybe with an BM DLC we will get Middenland with Boris.

Captain_Rex#1635

Ferestor said:

RamsesIII said:

Wouldn't it make more sense for BM to also get a FLC lord if you have the old DLC? Unless the reward is different, like a Legendary Hero or a special unit.

The WE only have 2 LL the Beastmen at least have 3. Maybe with an BM DLC we will get Middenland with Boris.

BM should get more than 4

Magicspook

AxiosXiphos said:

Guys this is very likely the last lord pack for Warhammer 2...

Grace said there was two more coming prior to the Warden & the Paunch; meaning that was included. We are starting to get towards the time when Warhammer 3 will be announced (seems likely it will be this year). As such the only DLC people should expect is the pre-order one; whatever that is - which may come ith a beastmen rework in tail.

Unless the pre-order is a lord pack; this WE one is the last.

I'd agree with you but for the fact that grace deliberately didn't clarify the misunderstanding. She's normally pretty effective at squashing the most outrageous rumours when people are really settig themselves up for dissappointment.

RamsesIII said:

Wouldn't it make more sense for BM to also get a FLC lord if you have the old DLC? Unless the reward is different, like a Legendary Hero or a special unit.

That'd make the beastmen the first DLC race with over 4 lords. I do not think it's likely.

Bonutz#3949

Yeah I agree. Think we get 1 more lord pack after this one - that being the Beastmen vs SK or DE.

AxiosXiphos said:

neodeinos said:

AxiosXiphos said:

Guys this is very likely the last lord pack for Warhammer 2...

Grace said there was two more coming prior to the Warden & the Paunch; meaning that was included. We are starting to get towards the time when Warhammer 3 will be announced (seems likely it will be this year). As such the only DLC people should expect is the pre-order one; whatever that is - which may come ith a beastmen rework in tail.

Unless the pre-order is a lord pack; this WE one is the last.

Grace said it also wasn't set in stone and if WH3 is delayed (which seems to be according to their blog) then they can probably afford making more DLCs for Warhammer 2.

Yeah but she was indicating that it might be less then two; not more. Warhammer 3 has been delayed; but if they are at the point of saying it's delayed then that means it's not far away at least announcement wise. It's very likely to be this year which leaves no time for another (non-preorder) lord pack.

Even if we get another lord pack after the Wood Elves (Probably early next year), I still have a feeling that CA will be announcing Game 3 this year. Just have a gut feeling that it’s close.

Ethorin#1178

I don't get the obsession with number of LL as "up to par"...

Nyxilis#3646

I'm a lil skeptical but I dont think it's improbable. Given I dont believe Warhammer 3 will be this year and sometime mid next year if not delayed till later there is wiggle room even with their slow pace.

Gosh knows the Beastmen need one desperately even more than the WE.

Magicspook

Ethorin said:

I don't get the obsession with number of LL as "up to par"...

I mean, yeah it shouldn't be as important as it is but you and I know full well that if there is one faction with fewer lords than the rest the fans of that faction will keep asking why their faction gets left behind.

It just makes sense to aim for a similar number of lords across the board.

Cortes31#6909

Magicspook said:

*there is still the matter of the FLC that will undoubtedly accompany the next DLC. My guess is that it will be a lord for either norsca or WoC, bringing their lord count closer to the golden number of 4 lords.

I say it will be Boris Todbringer but you need Warhammer 1 and Call of the Beastmen to get him.

Bloodydagger#9716

I see WH3 releasing mid/late next year. So another LP after this one is extremely realistic. Even probable.

Nyxilis#3646

Kelefane said:

I see WH3 releasing mid/late next year. So another LP after this one is extremely realistic. Even probable.

The only thing that would stop it I think I is they seem to have strongly hinted that it's about if this next lord pack does good or not. In my opinion if it flops then it might very well then not happen.