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Could Norsca be up next?

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  • kevManiac#4754kevManiac#4754 Registered Users Posts: 1,071

    kevManiac said:

    ArneSo said:

    Ferestor said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    Albion is on Vortex, which could count as Norsca.
    Jman5 said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    ???







    These are 3 provinces. Have fun if that’s all you can get as proper settlements...
    Just my two cents, Vampire Coast had 1 province before the Vampire Coast DLC...
    I think that's more of a misreading as it's that Norsca can only settle those provinces while the Vampire Coast doesn't have that race restriction in either version (Vampire Count placeholder and Vampire Coast race.

    Though TBh I think the Beastmen are more likely then Norsca for a race touch up after the Wood Elves.
    Ah, I forgot that part. Thanks. Ignore my comment then!
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  • Bonutz#3949Bonutz#3949 Registered Users Posts: 5,961
    I very highly doubt that we're getting a race rework and LP for a DLC race as the preorder. That would be incredibly lame and CA knows it. It's not much of an incentive to purchase the third game by selling you a lord pack for a race that we've had for years now (by the way, a race that should've been complete from the beginning).

    I firmly believe it will be a new race for the preorder.
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  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Registered Users Posts: 43,053
    RikRiorik said:

    ArneSo said:

    kevManiac said:

    ArneSo said:

    Ferestor said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    Albion is on Vortex, which could count as Norsca.
    Jman5 said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    ???







    These are 3 provinces. Have fun if that’s all you can get as proper settlements...
    Just my two cents, Vampire Coast had 1 province before the Vampire Coast DLC...
    Yes and they can settle everywhere. Norsca can only settle in Norsca and build those little outposts in port settlements.
    Don't forget settling in racial capitals.
    Yeah would still be extremely limited. But anyways, I doubt Norsca will be added to the Vortex map, so this discussion is pointless 😂
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  • DavidTWWH#4143DavidTWWH#4143 Registered Users Posts: 1,332

    I was thinking more of just 1 vortex map based norscan lord having more access to on-the-go recruitment like a semi-horde. The global recruitment for units feels extremely punishing on the larger map size and would so too for the Vortex.


    [...]

    Thanks for the detailed response, you raise some very good points, these issues should definitely be addressed, with or without DLC
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  • Artjuh90#8868Artjuh90#8868 Registered Users Posts: 1,697
    Ares354 said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    3. Empire never had settlements in Lustria
    4. Empire never was on Vortex map
    5. Empire don't make sense to be on Vortex

    Yet, we got Hunter and Beast. So I would never say something make no sense with CA. That ship sunked long ago.
    not to forget there are already like 3 Norscan factions placed on the votrex map,
    skeggi at lustria,
    skaeling at the north east of Ulthuan,
    Mung north side of naggaroth...
    way more then the empire had.
    although i love to see more lords and LL for Norsca cause they are one of my favorites BM and WoC need more love then Norsca right now.
    but did see a good point that chaos corrupted land would do way more damage to non-chaos factions which in turn would help Norsca alot aswell.
    the chaos wake-a-mole is so annoying
  • Jastalll#1030Jastalll#1030 Registered Users Posts: 2,006
    Norsca doesn't need a rework, just another LL, generic Lord, and maybe a handful of new units. Basically it can be the side of a Lord pack that doesn't get the rework and will be right as rain. Its mechanics are great as they are. I'd argue the roster is also more or less complete, but perhaps they could get a mid-tier heavy infantry, higher tier spears and a couple agile monsters or something.

    My personal small wish would be a unique model for the Frost Wyrm so it's not just a Chaos Dragon that someone forgot in the fridge.
  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Registered Users Posts: 43,053
    Artjuh90 said:

    Ares354 said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    3. Empire never had settlements in Lustria
    4. Empire never was on Vortex map
    5. Empire don't make sense to be on Vortex

    Yet, we got Hunter and Beast. So I would never say something make no sense with CA. That ship sunked long ago.
    not to forget there are already like 3 Norscan factions placed on the votrex map,
    skeggi at lustria,
    skaeling at the north east of Ulthuan,
    Mung north side of naggaroth...
    way more then the empire had.
    although i love to see more lords and LL for Norsca cause they are one of my favorites BM and WoC need more love then Norsca right now.
    but did see a good point that chaos corrupted land would do way more damage to non-chaos factions which in turn would help Norsca alot aswell.
    the chaos wake-a-mole is so annoying
    The difference is that the Empire can settle everywhere while Norsca can only settle in Norscan settlements. Comparing them makes no sense.
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  • OdTengri#8235OdTengri#8235 Registered Users Posts: 10,231
    ArneSo said:

    Everything is possible but I doubt it.

    1.) Norsca is on the same level as the WH2 races and doesn’t need a rework at this point.

    2.) it makes more sense to add Norscan LLs in the Dark Lands, the steppes or the chaos wastes where we have big population of Chaos Marauder tribes.

    I think Norsca will get a crossover in WH3 with Sayl the Faithless leading the Dolgans and Crom leading the Kurgan.

    Also

    3.) Norscas update might involve assets that come with the Daemons of Chaos. i.e. Steeds of Slanesh, Juggernauts, ect.
  • RikRiorik#9890RikRiorik#9890 Registered Users Posts: 12,752
    ArneSo said:

    RikRiorik said:

    ArneSo said:

    kevManiac said:

    ArneSo said:

    Ferestor said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    Albion is on Vortex, which could count as Norsca.
    Jman5 said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    ???







    These are 3 provinces. Have fun if that’s all you can get as proper settlements...
    Just my two cents, Vampire Coast had 1 province before the Vampire Coast DLC...
    Yes and they can settle everywhere. Norsca can only settle in Norsca and build those little outposts in port settlements.
    Don't forget settling in racial capitals.
    Yeah would still be extremely limited. But anyways, I doubt Norsca will be added to the Vortex map, so this discussion is pointless 😂
    Like so many other topics. But at least it offers an outlet for frustration caused by what could have been. From a story point the Vortex and Chaos go hand in hand and even without the inevitable campaign map additions that would have come with a Norscan DLC there would still have been room and a place for at least one Norscan LL.

    With the likes of Queek, Ikit, Tretch, Teclis, Imrik, Malus, Lokhir,Arkhan, Khalida and several others placed somewhat unfamiliarily on either the Vortex map altogether or just in terms of exaxt location I don’t see a problem with a Norscan entering the fray.

    But yes. As of now it does indeed not matter because it seems more or less certain not to happen.
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  • Artjuh90#8868Artjuh90#8868 Registered Users Posts: 1,697
    ArneSo said:

    Artjuh90 said:

    Ares354 said:

    ArneSo said:

    Jman5 said:

    I hope so. We're missing a Norsca playable lord for the vortex campaign and it would likely provide some much needed conflict to Ulthuan and Naggaroth.

    Now, if only we could have ToB style naval invasions on coastal settlements, it would really make Norsca fun.

    1. Norscans only have proper Settlements in Norsca
    2. Norsca is not on the Vortex map
    3. Norscans don’t make sense to be on the Vortex map
    3. Empire never had settlements in Lustria
    4. Empire never was on Vortex map
    5. Empire don't make sense to be on Vortex

    Yet, we got Hunter and Beast. So I would never say something make no sense with CA. That ship sunked long ago.
    not to forget there are already like 3 Norscan factions placed on the votrex map,
    skeggi at lustria,
    skaeling at the north east of Ulthuan,
    Mung north side of naggaroth...
    way more then the empire had.
    although i love to see more lords and LL for Norsca cause they are one of my favorites BM and WoC need more love then Norsca right now.
    but did see a good point that chaos corrupted land would do way more damage to non-chaos factions which in turn would help Norsca alot aswell.
    the chaos wake-a-mole is so annoying
    The difference is that the Empire can settle everywhere while Norsca can only settle in Norscan settlements. Comparing them makes no sense.
    well actually empire couldnt aswell in warhammer 1. but for some reason CA changed that with game 2 mortal empires,
    still not sure if that was the right decision though...
  • BordigaBordiga Registered Users Posts: 346
    Norsca right now only has two legendary lords and one generic lord.

    No other race in the game has as few lord options as Norsca currently.

    Besides, as others have pointed out Norsca, is one of the wh1 races that makes more sense in the vortex campaign, where there is already several Norsca subfactions.

    It is important to note that Norsca lorewise interact and come into conflict a lot with both Hell pit and the dark elves fleets, which is quite important because those two races are both probably going to get another dlc to put them at 6 legendary lords like HE and lizardmen.

    So a dlc of Norsca vs any of those two races makes a lot of sense.

    I personally believe Ca is going to opt for Valkhia as new dlc lord for norsca.

    I think thematically she fits perfectly the faction, and with all her valkyria fluff, I bet she is probably goign to come with some new and flashy shield maidens /valkyriasn units. Thy could come up with some sort of legendary fimir or shaman caster lord as the flc.

    Another reason why I believe this a perfectly possible scenario is that not so long ago Ca Duck said in another thread there were going to come a lot of females character or units.



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  • Eldrick#6807Eldrick#6807 Registered Users Posts: 887
    I just want Wulfic to have the Shipbuilding trait. With the mod his campaign blossoms but would be better still if done by CA I am sure.
  • Ninaran#8122Ninaran#8122 Registered Users Posts: 572
    Regarding those Norsca events. It certainly makes no sense for you to get them while running around inside the Empire with your army. They should be bound by region, not by faction. Why should a Norsca get an event while running around Middenland, but a Couronne at Longship Graveyard doesn't get any?
  • DavidTWWH#4143DavidTWWH#4143 Registered Users Posts: 1,332
    Bordiga said:

    Norsca right now only has two legendary lords and one generic lord.

    No other race in the game has as few lord options as Norsca currently.

    Besides, as others have pointed out Norsca, is one of the wh1 races that makes more sense in the vortex campaign, where there is already several Norsca subfactions.

    My thinking exactly. As I said, unlikely but worth considering.
    Bordiga said:



    It is important to note that Norsca lorewise interact and come into conflict a lot with both Hell pit and the dark elves fleets, which is quite important because those two races are both probably going to get another dlc to put them at 6 legendary lords like HE and lizardmen.

    So a dlc of Norsca vs any of those two races makes a lot of sense.

    Absolutely, I mean Ghoritch was a norscan warlord who was left to clan moulder as punishment, there's definitely conflict there.

    They certainly seem more fitting than beastmen to me, but I'm sure someone could correct me on that.

    The one thing that still makes beastmen more likely is that they absolutely need a rework while Norsca is mostly fine.
    Bordiga said:


    I personally believe Ca is going to opt for Valkhia as new dlc lord for norsca.

    I think thematically she fits perfectly the faction, and with all her valkyria fluff, I bet she is probably goign to come with some new and flashy shield maidens /valkyriasn units. Thy could come up with some sort of legendary fimir or shaman caster lord as the flc.

    Valkia would certainly be a good choice, she is khorne specific but I don't see why she couldn't have her own mechanics to make up for that.
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  • DavidTWWH#4143DavidTWWH#4143 Registered Users Posts: 1,332
    ArneSo said:


    Yeah would still be extremely limited. But anyways, I doubt Norsca will be added to the Vortex map, so this discussion is pointless 😂

    I'm sorry it was pointless to you, I got some pretty good feedback from you and everyone else, so It was useful to me :)
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  • capybarasiesta89#4722capybarasiesta89#4722 Registered Users Posts: 5,515
    Norsca DLC would be amazing in TW:WH3 I need Beastmen fixed and renewed, they have loads of interesting things to add. Most of all major overhaul is needed.
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