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My list of improvements to Skaven IF they are in next DLC:

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  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
  • DeadpoolSW#7283DeadpoolSW#7283 Registered Users Posts: 3,179

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    The Skaven are all just rats of different sizes and obicity- what's your point?
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  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    I mean, most of those would be remodels, but I don't see a problem with remodels. Also you forgot the Cauldron of 1000 poxes. That'd have to be a new model.
    I'll concede over cauldron yap that thing would need new wire frame.

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    I mean, most of those would be remodels, but I don't see a problem with remodels. Also you forgot the Cauldron of 1000 poxes. That'd have to be a new model.
    Yap i was wrong on cauldron that thing will need a new rig.

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • UberReptilian#8431UberReptilian#8431 Registered Users Posts: 5,487

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    I mean, most of those would be remodels, but I don't see a problem with remodels. Also you forgot the Cauldron of 1000 poxes. That'd have to be a new model.
    I'll concede over cauldron yap that thing would need new wire frame.

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    I mean, most of those would be remodels, but I don't see a problem with remodels. Also you forgot the Cauldron of 1000 poxes. That'd have to be a new model.
    Yap i was wrong on cauldron that thing will need a new rig.
    Thank you kindly I guess? I didn’t even say anything to change you mind lmao.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    I mean, most of those would be remodels, but I don't see a problem with remodels. Also you forgot the Cauldron of 1000 poxes. That'd have to be a new model.
    I'll concede over cauldron yap that thing would need new wire frame.

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    I mean, most of those would be remodels, but I don't see a problem with remodels. Also you forgot the Cauldron of 1000 poxes. That'd have to be a new model.
    Yap i was wrong on cauldron that thing will need a new rig.
    Thank you kindly I guess? I didn’t even say anything to change you mind lmao.
    I look at model. Didn't know it was separate thing from bell

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • UberReptilian#8431UberReptilian#8431 Registered Users Posts: 5,487

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    I mean, most of those would be remodels, but I don't see a problem with remodels. Also you forgot the Cauldron of 1000 poxes. That'd have to be a new model.
    I'll concede over cauldron yap that thing would need new wire frame.

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    I mean, most of those would be remodels, but I don't see a problem with remodels. Also you forgot the Cauldron of 1000 poxes. That'd have to be a new model.
    Yap i was wrong on cauldron that thing will need a new rig.
    Thank you kindly I guess? I didn’t even say anything to change you mind lmao.
    I look at model. Didn't know it was separate thing from bell
    Fair enough comrade. I’ll gladly accept the concession like the Narcissist I am lol.
  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,793

    Boreal said:

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    CA needs to convince people that this lord pack for a dlc race is worth it.
    They have already said as much, that won't happen if they get the short end of the stick.
    I just don't see the WE having the content left for a good LP half. CA can sell that message with the WE rework. They don't need to do it with the LP units. They can't.

    I see them giving the WE a few easy units and giving the lions share to Moulder.
    Sisters of Twilight will make a Wood Elf DLC worth it. Same with Spellweavers and Shadowdancers. Hopefully Ariel as the FLC Lord and the rework justify the DLC price, as compare the Dwarf rework who got no DLC vs Greenskins who did.
    Sisters of Twilight and a rework for WE would be brilliant. I just don't see much beyond that to be excited for or that could potentially be good in terms of units.
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  • TheShiroOfDaltonTheShiroOfDalton Registered Users Posts: 34,001
    Yannir said:

    I'd like to add a few things I've been mulling over.

    A. Clan Mors shouldn't have Loyalty. In the lore, Clan Mors is known as the clan of remarkably loyal members. Queek's dislike of Grey Seers could be done in another way than loyalty. Mors troops should also be better, all of them, and not just Clanrats. Their Stromvermin should be a force to be reckoned with. Their traits that are normally gained from loyalty dilemmas, should be acquired in a different way.

    Clan Mors should only have perfectly loyal warlords, all lord types from other clans should not share this. Clan Eshin shouldn't have this at all.
  • Uagrim#4644Uagrim#4644 Registered Users Posts: 2,148
    Most faction can have content for a few more lord packs if CA is willing to invest the time in it. We should stop putting skaven on some sort of pedestal because of it.
  • TheShiroOfDaltonTheShiroOfDalton Registered Users Posts: 34,001
    Uagrim said:

    Most faction can have content for a few more lord packs if CA is willing to invest the time in it. We should stop putting skaven on some sort of pedestal because of it.

    Skaven are the only WH2 core race with relevant stuff missing as opposed to the barrel scraping you'd have to do for the other races.
  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • VoxofWarVoxofWar Registered Users Posts: 290
    Why Skaven again?

    Welves with Ariel vs Delves make more thematic sense, especially if we look at lore...

    And really, I hope CA does focus on other races...Skaven got enough love, and Thanquol will come as well at some point...
  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
  • Beast_of_Guanyin#8747Beast_of_Guanyin#8747 Registered Users Posts: 44,793
    VoxofWar said:

    Why Skaven again?

    Welves with Ariel vs Delves make more thematic sense, especially if we look at lore...

    And really, I hope CA does focus on other races...Skaven got enough love, and Thanquol will come as well at some point...

    DE have nothing left to add.
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  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf
    It’s a lot more is it? How much more? How many on each side? What are these WE units that will have a totally new frame?

    Certainty with 0 evidence don’t make great bedfellows.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf
    It’s a lot more is it? How much more? How many on each side? What are these WE units that will have a totally new frame?

    Certainty with 0 evidence don’t make great bedfellows.
    new possible wire frames
    incarnate of beasts, spites, alter kin

    new full remodels
    dryad aspects, possible new treekin and treman variants, zoats

    new animations and slight remodels
    melee glade riders , melee hawk riders,

    why simple they are going to get dlc units, unit varients, mounts and characters (lords and heroes)

    than there also gonna get the same for flc according to blog post along with a another free hero sperate from mentioned characters and a flc LL.

    on top of that they are gonna do a remodel.

    so what do you think?

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf
    It’s a lot more is it? How much more? How many on each side? What are these WE units that will have a totally new frame?

    Certainty with 0 evidence don’t make great bedfellows.
    new possible wire frames
    incarnate of beasts, spites, alter kin

    new full remodels
    dryad aspects, possible new treekin and treman variants, zoats

    new animations and slight remodels
    melee glade riders , melee hawk riders,

    why simple they are going to get dlc units, unit varients, mounts and characters (lords and heroes)

    than there also gonna get the same for flc according to blog post along with a another free hero sperate from mentioned characters and a flc LL.

    on top of that they are gonna do a remodel.

    so what do you think?
    So.. we agree, you don’t know the actual costs.

    Possible new frames, or possibly old frames, so you’re basing everything on guesswork.

    I’ll say this, we still don’t know who CA will give more money to, they may even give equal work to both.

    This idea that the cost only relates to new models is a little odd. WE may get more complex mechanics and focus on LLs, whole Throt gets more units. The fact is we don’t know, past a little evidence.

    Guessing what will be a new wire model isn’t evidence.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf
    It’s a lot more is it? How much more? How many on each side? What are these WE units that will have a totally new frame?

    Certainty with 0 evidence don’t make great bedfellows.
    new possible wire frames
    incarnate of beasts, spites, alter kin

    new full remodels
    dryad aspects, possible new treekin and treman variants, zoats

    new animations and slight remodels
    melee glade riders , melee hawk riders,

    why simple they are going to get dlc units, unit varients, mounts and characters (lords and heroes)

    than there also gonna get the same for flc according to blog post along with a another free hero sperate from mentioned characters and a flc LL.

    on top of that they are gonna do a remodel.

    so what do you think?
    So.. we agree, you don’t know the actual costs.

    Possible new frames, or possibly old frames, so you’re basing everything on guesswork.

    I’ll say this, we still don’t know who CA will give more money to, they may even give equal work to both.

    This idea that the cost only relates to new models is a little odd. WE may get more complex mechanics and focus on LLs, whole Throt gets more units. The fact is we don’t know, past a little evidence.

    Guessing what will be a new wire model isn’t evidence.
    you know this is the type of stuff i love in the fourm, if its a faction people here like say GS or skaven (literally in this thread) than you want all the funds t sink in to it.
    but when given actual evidence from CA they are gonna give crap ton of stuff to WE according their own posts, and when some one uses it make educated guess you come here talking about equality in LPS. chin up and be happy skaven already had two good LPs aready.

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf
    It’s a lot more is it? How much more? How many on each side? What are these WE units that will have a totally new frame?

    Certainty with 0 evidence don’t make great bedfellows.
    new possible wire frames
    incarnate of beasts, spites, alter kin

    new full remodels
    dryad aspects, possible new treekin and treman variants, zoats

    new animations and slight remodels
    melee glade riders , melee hawk riders,

    why simple they are going to get dlc units, unit varients, mounts and characters (lords and heroes)

    than there also gonna get the same for flc according to blog post along with a another free hero sperate from mentioned characters and a flc LL.

    on top of that they are gonna do a remodel.

    so what do you think?
    So.. we agree, you don’t know the actual costs.

    Possible new frames, or possibly old frames, so you’re basing everything on guesswork.

    I’ll say this, we still don’t know who CA will give more money to, they may even give equal work to both.

    This idea that the cost only relates to new models is a little odd. WE may get more complex mechanics and focus on LLs, whole Throt gets more units. The fact is we don’t know, past a little evidence.

    Guessing what will be a new wire model isn’t evidence.
    you know this is the type of stuff i love in the fourm, if its a faction people here like say GS or skaven (literally in this thread) than you want all the funds t sink in to it.
    but when given actual evidence from CA they are gonna give crap ton of stuff to WE according their own posts, and when some one uses it make educated guess you come here talking about equality in LPS. chin up and be happy skaven already had two good LPs aready.
    I said we don’t know either way.. yet in your mind everyone’s saying Skaven will definitely get more.

    What’s this crap ton of evidence? The fact that CA have said they’re doing something to one of the DLC factions? Are they announcing that faction will get more content or re they just informing us they are looking at the DLC factions? Your idea of evidence is a little different to mine.

    We have little to no evidence about the content balance.

    Here’s one piece of evidence for you.. CA replied to someone who wasn’t happy about the win and lose situation for one DLC race.. they said they’d do something about it.. ipso facto, proof that the DLC will be balanced?

    You’ve not offered any proof that CA will favour the WE.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf
    It’s a lot more is it? How much more? How many on each side? What are these WE units that will have a totally new frame?

    Certainty with 0 evidence don’t make great bedfellows.
    new possible wire frames
    incarnate of beasts, spites, alter kin

    new full remodels
    dryad aspects, possible new treekin and treman variants, zoats

    new animations and slight remodels
    melee glade riders , melee hawk riders,

    why simple they are going to get dlc units, unit varients, mounts and characters (lords and heroes)

    than there also gonna get the same for flc according to blog post along with a another free hero sperate from mentioned characters and a flc LL.

    on top of that they are gonna do a remodel.

    so what do you think?
    So.. we agree, you don’t know the actual costs.

    Possible new frames, or possibly old frames, so you’re basing everything on guesswork.

    I’ll say this, we still don’t know who CA will give more money to, they may even give equal work to both.

    This idea that the cost only relates to new models is a little odd. WE may get more complex mechanics and focus on LLs, whole Throt gets more units. The fact is we don’t know, past a little evidence.

    Guessing what will be a new wire model isn’t evidence.
    you know this is the type of stuff i love in the fourm, if its a faction people here like say GS or skaven (literally in this thread) than you want all the funds t sink in to it.
    but when given actual evidence from CA they are gonna give crap ton of stuff to WE according their own posts, and when some one uses it make educated guess you come here talking about equality in LPS. chin up and be happy skaven already had two good LPs aready.
    I said we don’t know either way.. yet in your mind everyone’s saying Skaven will definitely get more.

    What’s this crap ton of evidence? The fact that CA have said they’re doing something to one of the DLC factions? Are they announcing that faction will get more content or re they just informing us they are looking at the DLC factions? Your idea of evidence is a little different to mine.

    We have little to no evidence about the content balance.

    Here’s one piece of evidence for you.. CA replied to someone who wasn’t happy about the win and lose situation for one DLC race.. they said they’d do something about it.. ipso facto, proof that the DLC will be balanced?

    You’ve not offered any proof that CA will favour the WE.


    see they are also getting FLC units, unit varients magic lores and a new hero.



    and a rework, plus extra LL

    now look at Last rework, clearly its bigger than the empire one. so it will be safe guess that it will at the very least close to this scale or bigger since this dlc for dlc.



    now look at the quality of animations and unit design HE got in last dlc. then use your intelligence to analyze the situation.




    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf
    It’s a lot more is it? How much more? How many on each side? What are these WE units that will have a totally new frame?

    Certainty with 0 evidence don’t make great bedfellows.
    new possible wire frames
    incarnate of beasts, spites, alter kin

    new full remodels
    dryad aspects, possible new treekin and treman variants, zoats

    new animations and slight remodels
    melee glade riders , melee hawk riders,

    why simple they are going to get dlc units, unit varients, mounts and characters (lords and heroes)

    than there also gonna get the same for flc according to blog post along with a another free hero sperate from mentioned characters and a flc LL.

    on top of that they are gonna do a remodel.

    so what do you think?
    So.. we agree, you don’t know the actual costs.

    Possible new frames, or possibly old frames, so you’re basing everything on guesswork.

    I’ll say this, we still don’t know who CA will give more money to, they may even give equal work to both.

    This idea that the cost only relates to new models is a little odd. WE may get more complex mechanics and focus on LLs, whole Throt gets more units. The fact is we don’t know, past a little evidence.

    Guessing what will be a new wire model isn’t evidence.
    you know this is the type of stuff i love in the fourm, if its a faction people here like say GS or skaven (literally in this thread) than you want all the funds t sink in to it.
    but when given actual evidence from CA they are gonna give crap ton of stuff to WE according their own posts, and when some one uses it make educated guess you come here talking about equality in LPS. chin up and be happy skaven already had two good LPs aready.
    I said we don’t know either way.. yet in your mind everyone’s saying Skaven will definitely get more.

    What’s this crap ton of evidence? The fact that CA have said they’re doing something to one of the DLC factions? Are they announcing that faction will get more content or re they just informing us they are looking at the DLC factions? Your idea of evidence is a little different to mine.

    We have little to no evidence about the content balance.

    Here’s one piece of evidence for you.. CA replied to someone who wasn’t happy about the win and lose situation for one DLC race.. they said they’d do something about it.. ipso facto, proof that the DLC will be balanced?

    You’ve not offered any proof that CA will favour the WE.


    see they are also getting FLC units, unit varients magic lores and a new hero.



    and a rework, plus extra LL

    now look at Last rework, clearly its bigger than the empire one. so it will be safe guess that it will at the very least close to this scale or bigger since this dlc for dlc.



    now look at the quality of animations and unit design HE got in last dlc. then use your intelligence to analyze the situation.



    I am using intelligence, which is why I’m coming up with a different conclusion.

    1. I can’t say anything about how the 2 races will compare as I only have a list for one.
    2. Again, you are ignoring the fact that CA took on the criticism that one faction always loses out, so in this specific case, stating what happened in the past means nothing, meaning your last 2 paragraphs are irrelevant.
    3. HE got an FLC unit with the QatC, do you think an FLC unit is a big deal? Extra units? Yeah.. possibly RoR units just like Eltharian received.. hardly ground breaking.

    Your ‘evidence’ isn’t as water tight as you think.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334
    edited August 2020

    they already said there will WE rework Dlc and Flc units as well as dlc and flc LL . and lot more in blog post, expecting lion share for skaven is delusional warp stone induced dream

    Not really. The WEs simply have few unique units, while Skaven have 3 DLCs worth of content remaining.
    Eh nope wrong again ones this dlc drops than every single potential skaven unit might be nothing more than just remodels. Stuff modder could do. I highly doubt you will see another skaven pack for very very long time.
    Based on what? What I’ve said is based on what units are available for Skaven. What’s your theory based on?
    On the same models, every one sharing. Just look at them and than look at all similar units in game or all the similar units that will come with other races.

    Oh and there is chimra rat mod.
    Can someone translate? It could be a genius response for all I know.
    He's saying what's left for Skaven would be remodels based on previous Skaven units. Like the Verminlord would be a remodel of...IDK
    Wolf Rat, Giant Rat, Borrowing behemoth, Chimera Rat (the fact it’s a mod is irrelevant), Rat Tank, Giant WLC, Stormfiends, Warp Dragon, The largest selection of RoR models etc.

    Now, before anyone argues.. but those are supplements or 6th edition.. true.. but imagine where we will need to go to get new WE units.
    Wolf rat , gaint rat, brood horror , and bhemoth all are rats ,they would still simply use a the same wire frame of a normal rat. With some of them getting unique animations.

    Like brood horror and behemoth.
    You appear to be conflating species with wire frame. In what way would a brood horror or borrowing behemoth would have a similar wire frame to other creatures.

    Also, you’re the first person who sees having a similar wire frame is somehow a cheap short cut. The fact it’s a totally unique model means it comes straight into line with the cost of a of a Lord pack.

    Oh, wouldn’t it be awful if we got lots of new units.. a false problem.
    Look at their models there just rats of different sizes and obicity. And their is the problem of overlapping roles. Look at what happen to poidon wind globes. They went the way of the dodo once the mortar came.
    Again, a wolf rat, giant rat, burrowing behemoth will all move in totally different ways.

    They’re totally different units, ones a medium range artillery and the other is a short range projectile unit. There are no official figures on who is using and not using either.
    No they won't they are gaint rat, rat with wolf head, rat with less fat and elongation that has burrowing attack. Keep your expectations down. I think wolf rats might even be ror.

    Or they could re use hound skeleton for wolf rat.


    Yes there is an official source of info that CA uses often to do stuff. You know its called mp.
    You need to do more research. A Wolf-rat has the same build and movement of a wolf, much longer legs compared to a Giant Rat.

    Your argument is equivalent to saying a sausage dog requires the same frame as a Great Dane.

    Improve or knock your follow up on the head.
    then it uses the hound/ wolf wire frames as i have stated in previous post. read please
    Again, you’re using an argument that only exists in your head. If CA fill a DLC with mostly re-models so what? Do you think that’s easy or some sort of short cut for the price?

    Do you think anyone else in this thread will be somehow disappointed if it’s mostly remodels (not recolours or reskins btw)? This issue exists in your head..
    point it it is much cheaper than making new wire frame, and ca can make them without allocating more to skaven. meaning most of the budget and content will focus on wood elf
    It’s a lot more is it? How much more? How many on each side? What are these WE units that will have a totally new frame?

    Certainty with 0 evidence don’t make great bedfellows.
    new possible wire frames
    incarnate of beasts, spites, alter kin

    new full remodels
    dryad aspects, possible new treekin and treman variants, zoats

    new animations and slight remodels
    melee glade riders , melee hawk riders,

    why simple they are going to get dlc units, unit varients, mounts and characters (lords and heroes)

    than there also gonna get the same for flc according to blog post along with a another free hero sperate from mentioned characters and a flc LL.

    on top of that they are gonna do a remodel.

    so what do you think?
    So.. we agree, you don’t know the actual costs.

    Possible new frames, or possibly old frames, so you’re basing everything on guesswork.

    I’ll say this, we still don’t know who CA will give more money to, they may even give equal work to both.

    This idea that the cost only relates to new models is a little odd. WE may get more complex mechanics and focus on LLs, whole Throt gets more units. The fact is we don’t know, past a little evidence.

    Guessing what will be a new wire model isn’t evidence.
    you know this is the type of stuff i love in the fourm, if its a faction people here like say GS or skaven (literally in this thread) than you want all the funds t sink in to it.
    but when given actual evidence from CA they are gonna give crap ton of stuff to WE according their own posts, and when some one uses it make educated guess you come here talking about equality in LPS. chin up and be happy skaven already had two good LPs aready.
    I said we don’t know either way.. yet in your mind everyone’s saying Skaven will definitely get more.

    What’s this crap ton of evidence? The fact that CA have said they’re doing something to one of the DLC factions? Are they announcing that faction will get more content or re they just informing us they are looking at the DLC factions? Your idea of evidence is a little different to mine.

    We have little to no evidence about the content balance.

    Here’s one piece of evidence for you.. CA replied to someone who wasn’t happy about the win and lose situation for one DLC race.. they said they’d do something about it.. ipso facto, proof that the DLC will be balanced?

    You’ve not offered any proof that CA will favour the WE.


    see they are also getting FLC units, unit varients magic lores and a new hero.



    and a rework, plus extra LL

    now look at Last rework, clearly its bigger than the empire one. so it will be safe guess that it will at the very least close to this scale or bigger since this dlc for dlc.



    now look at the quality of animations and unit design HE got in last dlc. then use your intelligence to analyze the situation.



    I am using intelligence, which is why I’m coming up with a different conclusion.

    1. I can’t say anything about how the 2 races will compare as I only have a list for one.
    2. Again, you are ignoring the fact that CA took on the criticism that one faction always loses out, so in this specific case, stating what happened in the past means nothing, meaning your last 2 paragraphs are irrelevant.
    3. HE got an FLC unit with the QatC, do you think an FLC unit is a big deal? Extra units? Yeah.. possibly RoR units just like Eltharian received.. hardly ground breaking.

    Your ‘evidence’ isn’t as water tight as you think.
    high elves got 1 new wire frame, one composite unite which use the new wire frame along side existing assets.
    and the rest of the units were nothing more than slight remodels and one extra animation which puts together its rebirth animation along side a recoulered banishment animation.
    the DLC mount was again a remodel of imperial griffon.
    dlc lord basically the HE mage with slightly different face.
    and for flc basically got 1 new animation for flc lord.
    only one of the five ror dragons and the flc lord unique mount got a new recolour and the of the five ror dragons only one had recolored breath attack.


    while greenskins got a lava spider which has unique new animation for free, they got a new ability animation in fermented fungi
    and got near complete overhaul to behavior of fanatics

    and for dlc
    got a completely massive wire frame with completely unique animations in rouge idol even the rouge idol ror uses a slightly different animation than a cygor the only similar ranged unit.

    they got another new wire frame in pump wagons with two additionally medium level remodeled variants with flappas variant having their own unique animations

    river trolls are very heavily remodeled wire frame or completely new ones while the same wire frame was further modified and given multiple unique animations.

    only unit that used previous assets in the GS side of dlc were stone trolls.


    and then compare groms cauldron to elis dungeon, groms cauldron is completely inter active interface and op. hile elis dungeon is just op.

    only good thing HE got that was decent is Imriks voice lines

    so is both side of the last dlc equal?

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


  • davedave1124#4773davedave1124#4773 Registered Users Posts: 24,504
    As I read the first line I noticed you were arguing what the HE got compared to the GS and I wonder why you’re even arguing this?

    For the last few messages I’ve clearly said CA have stated they will be more careful with the balance of the 2 factions..

    Yet, this appears not to be sinking in.
  • saweendra#3399saweendra#3399 Registered Users Posts: 21,334

    As I read the first line I noticed you were arguing what the HE got compared to the GS and I wonder why you’re even arguing this?

    For the last few messages I’ve clearly said CA have stated they will be more careful with the balance of the 2 factions..

    Yet, this appears not to be sinking in.

    and i am saying judging from the amount of content CA stated that WE will get that won't happen.

    #givemoreunitsforbrettonia, my bret dlc


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