Daemon models

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ROMOBOY#7812

I prefer the older ones for a lot of these.

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mewade44#6520

Those aren't even the old old models. I think the most demonic bloodletters were the crazy looking originals.

ROMOBOY#7812

Mattock said:

ROMOBOY said:

I prefer the older ones for a lot of these.

I agree, and I think we probably see the older ones for everything except khorne, with the others using the forgeworld models if available as the newer ones came out in AoS. Shame about the lord of change though, the new model looks very good

I don’t really mind the old Khorne models. They look more bestial and less alien-like in my opinion.

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Theo91#7431

ROMOBOY said:

I prefer the older ones for a lot of these.

Same. Was expecting to prefer the new but not the case

ROMOBOY#7812

Mattock said:

ROMOBOY said:

Mattock said:

ROMOBOY said:

I prefer the older ones for a lot of these.

I agree, and I think we probably see the older ones for everything except khorne, with the others using the forgeworld models if available as the newer ones came out in AoS. Shame about the lord of change though, the new model looks very good

I don’t really mind the old Khorne models. They look more bestial and less alien-like in my opinion.

Me too, but their new models came put during fantasy and the end times so I think theyll be the ones they go for. The more I look at the old bloodletters though, the more i start to prefer them

Oh yeah, they’ll most likely be the ones they use. Those models of bloodletters are iconic now.

Timpeyo#7210

I'd quite like them to take inspiration from AoS models as well as some off the old lore like Carnival of Nurgle/Chaos and be creative, creating some new units to fleash out DoC armies. Similar to Norsca and VCoast

tyrannus

A lot of newer ones look like kid friendly pg-13 tonned down stuff.

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Zekerath

Bloodletters: I prefer the newer ones myself. The old ones look a bit too similar to something I'd might expect from beastmen, maybe even khorngors. The newer one's head shape, nakedness and lack of fur makes them somewhat more alien and demonic to me.

Horrors: Old ones any day. Twisting shapes and undefined body-structure fit Tzeentch much better IMO. It doesn't help that the newer models' poses are rather stiff and one-note, arms raised. The old ones' poses look much more dynamic, and are more varied in design.

Plaguebearers: this one's difficult to me. Once again I think the old models have slightly more dynamic poses among them, some of the daemons slouching rather than all of them just standing there, menacingly. But I do think the new ones express the absolutely disgusting features of Nurgle's daemons features much better, and details like little glotkins hanging from plaguebearer's guts is nice touch. Since there's not as many big changes to the overall theme and style of the model, they are still disgusting bipedal cyclops with beer bellies, I'd go with newer version that's mostly just an upgrade, even if the poses are a bit static.

Daemonettes: Odd ones among the basic daemon infantry to wear clothes/armor, but that I can easily overlook because having cosmetic items like that is perfectly fitting for daemons of Slaanesh, and it has the added benefit of covering the naughty bits. I really doubt CA will add anything naughtier than what Morathi has, so I don't really take that in to consideration. Both old and new have pros and cons to them for me: old versions had better poses, akin to dancing poses, and they do look to me at least to have some of that alluring beauty they should have, but they all look very much the same. Surely even the men of the Old World can lust over more than one version of demonic beauty. The new ones on the other hand are stiff, and look horrifying. I'm guessing they were going with something akin to what dryads do, being alluring and beautiful until it is time to kill the prey trapped under they charm, and reveal their monstrous true visage, and that we see on the battlefield. Not sure it really works for daemonettes, but whatever. In the new ones' defense, their equipment, claw/pincer shapes and hairstyles are much more varied and interesting. A mix between both could yield something good, I hope.

Keeper of Secrets: I mostly ignored greater demons, because as far as I see, the new ones are just improved versions of the old ones, there's little to no re-design to their shape and concept. The new Keeper of secrets on the other hand looks very different from the earlier version, and good riddance I say. I have no love for the old design, especially since I already threw in my association of that head-shape to bloodletters. The new one is elegant and graceful, the cape is absolutely fantastic and how they lean forward while walking (see the model from the side) brings me much joy and I think it looks much more fitting to Slaanesh than the old thing.

Goatforce#6625

They need to use the new KoS model imo. I mean the FW one is also very good, but the new one is best imo.

I think the only older models that are without a doubt better are the horrors and the Beast of Nurgle.

Sir_Godspeed#8395

Mattock said:

tyrannus said:

A lot of newer ones look like kid friendly pg-13 tonned down stuff.

Especially nurgle, they look very cartoonish compared to the older stuff

This is partly due to a change in the color palette that they use in the example models. If you look at the older models compared to the new ones, the older ones are painted in a more drab, mucky style, whereas the new ones have a more bright-green style. This also applies if you look at the 40k examples of the Death Guard models.

Lord_Distamorfin#1941

Most of the old Slaanesh models are superior to the newer ones, mostly because the new ones just look generic and don't really exemplify the perfect beauty and incarnation of pleasure that they're supposed have and be. The old Horrors are beautiful compared to the new ones; the new ones look weird and they go way to hard with the bird connection and not nearly hard enough with the "ever-changing" aspect of Tzeentch.

Sir_Godspeed#8395

Lord_Distamorfin said:

incarnation of pleasure

And pain.

Red_Dox#2328

For a more complete look in regards of actually "old" Slaanesh miniatures
https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/273013/daemons-of-chaos-slaanesh
Other gods, Soon™.

------Red Dox

PhoenixKingMalekith#5710

New Greater Daemons are better. However, old minor daemons are better.

SakuraHeinz

Slaanesh needs the old models, the orhers can have the new ones, except the tzeentch horros the old models of them look amazing and the new ones look like cartoon minions the same with the new plaguebearers.

Neodeinos#5871

Older models are obviously the best, especially for Slaanesh. I'd even pay a small DLC like the blood one to get uncensored Slaaneshi units.

TheShiroOfDalton

neodeinos said:

Older models are obviously the best, especially for Slaanesh. I'd even pay a small DLC like the blood one to get uncensored Slaaneshi units.

They'll be modelled after their most recent incarnation simply because that's the models GW still sells.

Neodeinos#5871

ShiroAmakusa75 said:

neodeinos said:

Older models are obviously the best, especially for Slaanesh. I'd even pay a small DLC like the blood one to get uncensored Slaaneshi units.

They'll be modelled after their most recent incarnation simply because that's the models GW still sells.

Not necessarily, we have the old Lord of Change model instead of the most recent one.

RomeoReject#1666

neodeinos said:

Older models are obviously the best, especially for Slaanesh. I'd even pay a small DLC like the blood one to get uncensored Slaaneshi units.

For the Daemonettes I agree, though the Keeper of Secrets looks waaaaaay cooler with the newer look, to me.

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neodeinos said:

ShiroAmakusa75 said:

neodeinos said:

Older models are obviously the best, especially for Slaanesh. I'd even pay a small DLC like the blood one to get uncensored Slaaneshi units.

They'll be modelled after their most recent incarnation simply because that's the models GW still sells.

Not necessarily, we have the old Lord of Change model instead of the most recent one.

I'm pretty sure the Forgeworld model was the most recent one at the time that Warhammer 1 released.

Wyvax#7456

They'll go with the most modern models of course, but their are aspects of the old ones that should be incorporated. Like the nonconformity of the old Pink Horror models, they should be as confusing to look at as Chaos Spawn.

In regards to the Daemonettes specifically, I think their is a healthy middle ground to be struck between the 8th edition models and the Diaznettes. The former are plainly demonic but not seductive at all, just ugly, while the Diaznettes pull off the sexy vibes but don't strike me as particularly daemonic at a glance, more like as a humanoid alien instead. Neither of them give off a strong uncanny valley effect, which IMO should be most important thing to feel with the sex appeal and horror is combined properly.

mewade44#6520

Also old models we metal/pewter

DEM0N_LLAMA

50/50 on older vs new models.

It's weird how for some Chaos gods GW nailed the look for unit and not another but when they updated the models it's the opposite.

Polar_IceCream

Yeah there’s definitely a mixed vote for me but I have to admit I’ve never been a fan of bloodletters look but the older version is definitely an improvement for me

Pocman#6295

There is no way they are going to use AoS models, so this discussion is mostly moot.

Pocman#6295

There is no way they are going to use AoS models, so this discussion is mostly moot.


Edit: having said that, being demons, what I really wish for is for CA adding several variations, with strong differences between them.

Zekerath

Pocman said:

There is no way they are going to use AoS models, so this discussion is mostly moot.

Fairly sure at least the infantry models were used back in the 8th edition as well.