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Captain_Rex#1635

elkapp

inb4 Malus Darkblade 2 : elixir boogaloo for one of the LL

I mean, probably even with a longer time limit they will find a way to **** up and make one of the lords underpowered.

Crossil

Me every five minutes in times between 12 and 16 hours:

Theo91#7431

i think it's fair to be able to criticise their policy. They can always ignore the criticism if it doesn't matter to them

Khaine1god#8470

Mya even I'm starting to feel the lingering effects of the dreaded ''soon''.I thought i had immunity since i played warframe for 5 years.Even more so i have nothing worthwhile to do for the next 2 months.

sykall#1105

Today is the last day of troy dlc being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

Neodeinos#5871

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

capybarasiesta89#4722

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

Does B&G need really one week slot? Their marketing and focus is truly bizarre, honestly I hope this trend with multiple titles will end cause they are not handling it well.

yolordmcswag#6132

capybarasiesta89 said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

Does B&G need really one week slot? Their marketing and focus is truly bizarre, honestly I hope this trend with multiple titles will end cause they are not handling it well.

I doubt they are holding back the wood elf DLC just to give it a separate week. It will be released when it's finished, regardless of whatever other things they release. And this week has had nothing, so if it was ready it would have already been announced.

Goatforce#6625

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

They're doing 2 Troy DLCs in a row, that seems very odd, where did they say that?

As I recall though TW Blood Packs don't have any windup or marketing other than a trailer when they actually release, so the blood pack could just be dropped at any time.

saweendra#3399

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

saweendra#3399

yolordmcswag said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

yolordmcswag said:

capybarasiesta89 said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

Does B&G need really one week slot? Their marketing and focus is truly bizarre, honestly I hope this trend with multiple titles will end cause they are not handling it well.

I doubt they are holding back the wood elf DLC just to give it a separate week. It will be released when it's finished, regardless of whatever other things they release. And this week has had nothing, so if it was ready it would have already been announced.

can you share the source please ?

Source on what exactly? My source on my own doubt is my own conscious mind. My source on nothing being released by CA this week is CA themselves, unless they released something I missed.

As for my last point, it's just guesswork, but do you really think CA would sit on a fully developed DLC for several weeks and just not release it? Why would they do that?

sorry quoated the wrong one

RafSwi7#7492

Considering that Wood Elves update will come with 4 Legendary Lords, faction rework, new units and other things, one can suspect that its development might take a longer time than previous DLCs. Wood Elves content pack might simply not be ready to be revealed right now.

IMHO at best we will hear some news during late October/early November, after Troy Blood DLC drops.

Surge_2#1464

It's got 4 LL?

X to doubt.

The_Lawless#5138

RafSwi7 said:

Considering that Wood Elves update will come with 4 Legendary Lords, faction rework, new units and other things, one can suspect that its development might take a longer time than previous DLCs. Wood Elves content pack might simply not be ready to be revealed right now.

IMHO at best we will hear some news during late October/early November, after Troy Blood DLC drops.

4 legendary lords??

RafSwi7#7492

The_Lawless said:

RafSwi7 said:

Considering that Wood Elves update will come with 4 Legendary Lords, faction rework, new units and other things, one can suspect that its development might take a longer time than previous DLCs. Wood Elves content pack might simply not be ready to be revealed right now.

IMHO at best we will hear some news during late October/early November, after Troy Blood DLC drops.

4 legendary lords??

Sorry, misremembered free hero as LL.

Neodeinos#5871

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

saweendra#3399

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

but but they can not delay wh lp, because troy lp got delayed . oh well f CA if they do that


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Surge_2#1464

Man, just get it over with so we can update Beastmen.

Vanilla_Gorilla#8529

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

Neodeinos#5871

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

IamNotArobot#8850

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

MythrilSoul

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

saweendra#3399

MythrilSoul said:

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

But if you put muddle of November than they don't need to do any thing October for WH though.

This is a another travesty i tell you.

Vanilla_Gorilla#8529

MythrilSoul said:

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

I doubt CA cares much about Troy now. They've made their money. Now they'll just see if the DLC sells

RafSwi7#7492

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

MythrilSoul said:

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

I doubt CA cares much about Troy now. They've made their money. Now they'll just see if the DLC sells

Why would they not care about it?

It has the biggest owners base among all Total War titles. Even if only a small part of them buy paid DLC it still might sell way better than DLCs for other games.

Don't underestimate the power of numbers behind Epic. When Civ VI went free on Epic, its monthly average number of players (not owners) increased by 477% and during that time the average number of players on Steam was 41k (so in the same month Civ VI could have on Epic on average even nearly 200k players).

When you launch Epic Troy still shows up in the most popular titles so it seems that people over there still play the game.

hendo#1695

MythrilSoul said:

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

Well if it is not announced next week then the chances are pretty high for a November release. November 5th is a holiday for the UK (thanks V for vendetta) so unless they release earlier in the week the second week of November is a good guess.

Goatforce#6625

RafSwi7 said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

MythrilSoul said:

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

I doubt CA cares much about Troy now. They've made their money. Now they'll just see if the DLC sells

Why would they not care about it?

It has the biggest owners base among all Total War titles. Even if only a small part of them buy paid DLC it still might sell way better than DLCs for other games.

Don't underestimate the power of numbers behind Epic. When Civ VI went free on Epic, its monthly average number of players (not owners) increased by 477% and during that time the average number of players on Steam was 41k (so in the same month Civ VI could have on Epic on average even nearly 200k players).

When you launch Epic Troy still shows up in the most popular titles so it seems that people over there still play the game.

Individually perhaps, and that is a definite perhaps given the reason it is so widely owned is almost certainly that it was free so there is no guarantee of DLC success months after the honeymoon has ended, but the issue is how much longevity does Troy have? It is a Saga game, which are designed to be smaller and are generally more limited (though also experimental tryouts for mechanics) - the issue with this is that it doesn't have the lifespan of a full TW game and once people start having to regularly pay for new stuff it may well start to rapidly shed users and drop off in terms of profits. Compare this to a historical title which has years worth of steady income from DLC in it, or WH which is a project that could easily yield steady income from DLC for about a decade (from release of 1 to end of 3), and Troy is far less attractive.

yolordmcswag#6132

Goatforce said:

RafSwi7 said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

MythrilSoul said:

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

I doubt CA cares much about Troy now. They've made their money. Now they'll just see if the DLC sells

Why would they not care about it?

It has the biggest owners base among all Total War titles. Even if only a small part of them buy paid DLC it still might sell way better than DLCs for other games.

Don't underestimate the power of numbers behind Epic. When Civ VI went free on Epic, its monthly average number of players (not owners) increased by 477% and during that time the average number of players on Steam was 41k (so in the same month Civ VI could have on Epic on average even nearly 200k players).

When you launch Epic Troy still shows up in the most popular titles so it seems that people over there still play the game.

Individually perhaps, and that is a definite perhaps given the reason it is so widely owned is almost certainly that it was free so there is no guarantee of DLC success months after the honeymoon has ended, but the issue is how much longevity does Troy have? It is a Saga game, which are designed to be smaller and are generally more limited (though also experimental tryouts for mechanics) - the issue with this is that it doesn't have the lifespan of a full TW game and once people start having to regularly pay for new stuff it may well start to rapidly shed users and drop off in terms of profits. Compare this to a historical title which has years worth of steady income from DLC in it, or WH which is a project that could easily yield steady income from DLC for about a decade (from release of 1 to end of 3), and Troy is far less attractive.

CA would be very interested in keeping players in Troy for a little while at least. The longer Troy is supported and people play it, the larger is the chance that those players will also look at other total war games and start playing them. If Troy was left in a bare-bones state(Like most total war games are at launch) and then abandoned, people would probably move on.

However, if Troy was a living game with promise of good future content, that reflects well on CA and total war in general. All those people who only got it because it was free, can suddenly become regular and paying total war fans.

RafSwi7#7492

Goatforce said:

RafSwi7 said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

MythrilSoul said:

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

I doubt CA cares much about Troy now. They've made their money. Now they'll just see if the DLC sells

Why would they not care about it?

It has the biggest owners base among all Total War titles. Even if only a small part of them buy paid DLC it still might sell way better than DLCs for other games.

Don't underestimate the power of numbers behind Epic. When Civ VI went free on Epic, its monthly average number of players (not owners) increased by 477% and during that time the average number of players on Steam was 41k (so in the same month Civ VI could have on Epic on average even nearly 200k players).

When you launch Epic Troy still shows up in the most popular titles so it seems that people over there still play the game.

Individually perhaps, and that is a definite perhaps given the reason it is so widely owned is almost certainly that it was free so there is no guarantee of DLC success months after the honeymoon has ended, but the issue is how much longevity does Troy have? It is a Saga game, which are designed to be smaller and are generally more limited (though also experimental tryouts for mechanics) - the issue with this is that it doesn't have the lifespan of a full TW game and once people start having to regularly pay for new stuff it may well start to rapidly shed users and drop off in terms of profits. Compare this to a historical title which has years worth of steady income from DLC in it, or WH which is a project that could easily yield steady income from DLC for about a decade (from release of 1 to end of 3), and Troy is far less attractive.

They will just make DLCs for the games for which these DLCs will sell well. This is simple truth.

Number of DLCs does not depend on being main or Saga game, but on a chance of being profitable. CA is most likely aware what % of total owners/players is buying DLCs. It is also probable that this % of potential DLC buyers is similiar among all Total War titles. The bigger is ownerbase/playerbase, the bigger are potential profits from DLCs.

This is why Thrones did not have DLCs - its sold poorly compared to other titles (estimates shows that it might have sold even 5-10 times less copies than other TW games). If Thrones sold better it would have receive DLCs.

This is also why it was RomeII that has received DLCs from Sofia studio and not Attila even if the latter was a newer title. It is not that Attila was worse game but it did not sell as well as RomeII (different estimations shows that it might have sold only one third of RomeII numbers). If Attila sold better, it would have receive these DLCs in 2017-2018.

It is all about numbers. If Warhammer sales were average it would have receive much less post launch content.

Troy has the biggest ownerbase among all Total War titles and (based on stats about GTA and CIv VI numbers on Epic)
it might also have the biggest playerbase among all Total War titles. To put its numbers into perspective:

Troy was claimed in over 7.5 million copies in 24 hours and it means that (based on leak from 2018):
- in one day it was claimed nearly six time more than the total number of Attila players after a 3 years.
- in one day it was claimed at least two time more than the total number of RomeII players after 5 years.
- in one day it was claimed nearly 30 times more that number of total Thrones players after two months.
- in one day it was claimed nearly 8 times more than total number of Warhammer 2 players after a year.

CA wont say "Oh, Troy was more successful than we have anticipated so in theory can sell a lot of DLC copies, but we will not do them because Troy is Saga title".

As long as Troy has good numbers behind it, it will receive more DLCs, if the numbers are not good it won't. So far its numbers I think make these DLCs more probable.

saweendra#3399

RafSwi7 said:

Goatforce said:

RafSwi7 said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

MythrilSoul said:

IamNotArobot said:

neodeinos said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

neodeinos said:

kasunrathnatunga said:

neodeinos said:

sykall said:

Today is the last day of troy being free, if I remember correctly.
I expect news one or two weeks later to seperate the wh release more from the troy release.

There's still the Blood DLC for Troy coming, IIRC they said it was their next release so probably blood DLC next week, WH news the week after.

can you share the source please ?

Well it's supposed to release in October, it was in the latest blog when they shared their plans for all their games.

Source? I haven't seen that.

I see a lot of free things that I don't care about because they aren't on Steam. I'm not even joking.

a blood DLC and a unit/god FLC is a good thing for troy, but its hardly content for an entire month.
i am willing to bet the WE DLc will drop at the middle of november

I doubt CA cares much about Troy now. They've made their money. Now they'll just see if the DLC sells

Why would they not care about it?

It has the biggest owners base among all Total War titles. Even if only a small part of them buy paid DLC it still might sell way better than DLCs for other games.

Don't underestimate the power of numbers behind Epic. When Civ VI went free on Epic, its monthly average number of players (not owners) increased by 477% and during that time the average number of players on Steam was 41k (so in the same month Civ VI could have on Epic on average even nearly 200k players).

When you launch Epic Troy still shows up in the most popular titles so it seems that people over there still play the game.

Individually perhaps, and that is a definite perhaps given the reason it is so widely owned is almost certainly that it was free so there is no guarantee of DLC success months after the honeymoon has ended, but the issue is how much longevity does Troy have? It is a Saga game, which are designed to be smaller and are generally more limited (though also experimental tryouts for mechanics) - the issue with this is that it doesn't have the lifespan of a full TW game and once people start having to regularly pay for new stuff it may well start to rapidly shed users and drop off in terms of profits. Compare this to a historical title which has years worth of steady income from DLC in it, or WH which is a project that could easily yield steady income from DLC for about a decade (from release of 1 to end of 3), and Troy is far less attractive.

They will just make DLCs for the games for which these DLCs will sell well. This is simple truth.

Number of DLCs does not depend on being main or Saga game, but on a chance of being profitable. CA is most likely aware what % of total owners/players is buying DLCs. It is also probable that this % of potential DLC buyers is similiar among all Total War titles. The bigger is ownerbase/playerbase, the bigger are potential profits from DLCs.

This is why Thrones did not have DLCs - its sold poorly compared to other titles (estimates shows that it might have sold even 5-10 times less copies than other TW games). If Thrones sold better it would have receive DLCs.

This is also why it was RomeII that has received DLCs from Sofia studio and not Attila even if the latter was a newer title. It is not that Attila was worse game but it did not sell as well as RomeII (different estimations shows that it might have sold only one third of RomeII numbers). If Attila sold better, it would have receive these DLCs in 2017-2018.

It is all about numbers. If Warhammer sales were average it would have receive much less post launch content.

Troy has the biggest ownerbase among all Total War titles and (based on stats about GTA and CIv VI numbers on Epic)
it might also have the biggest playerbase among all Total War titles. To put its numbers into perspective:

Troy was claimed in over 7.5 million copies in 24 hours and it means that (based on leak from 2018):
- in one day it was claimed nearly six time more than the total number of Attila players after a 3 years.
- in one day it was claimed at least two time more than the total number of RomeII players after 5 years.
- in one day it was claimed nearly 30 times more that number of total Thrones players after two months.
- in one day it was claimed nearly 8 times more than total number of Warhammer 2 players after a year.

CA wont say "Oh, Troy was more successful than we have anticipated so in theory can sell a lot of DLC copies, but we will not do them because Troy is Saga title".

As long as Troy has good numbers behind it, it will receive more DLCs, if the numbers are not good it won't. So far its numbers I think make these DLCs more probable.

But it was free, try and make wh 3 free. it will be hold my beer moment, but i do agree troy will get let lot of dlc, but weather or not they sell without being free is still up in air,