Sigvald buffed!

Goatforce#6625

Rejoice followers of Slaanesh, for the favoured son has recieved a buff this patch!

Perfect Vigour, Heroic Killing Blow, Slippery and +5 MA. According to Indypride he is on paper perhaps the best melee Footlord.



Looks like this patch has tons of rebalancing for LLs, cannot wait to see the patchnotes!

ROMOBOY#7812

I’m too busy looking at the unit cards on that thumbnail. It looks very out of place.

Bloodydagger#9716

This kind of gives me some hope for Malus.

Can't wait to see what's done with LLs myself. Maybe Queek and Tretch got some love. Can't wait to see what's done with my favorite LLs like Malekith and Grimgor and Ikit. Etc.

Vanilla_Gorilla#8529

Good week for him.

He also got an awesome new AoS model.

Goatforce#6625

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Good week for him.

He also got an awesome new AoS model.

Oh that model is glorious! I am definitely getting it when it comes out, though I would not dare try giving it a non metalic metal paintjob like the one shown off in the reveal, that is far beyond me unfortunately!

@Kelefane Can't wait to see the patchnotes, I have a feeling that the increased development time may have allowed them to really give some of the LLs (perhaps generic too) that have fallen behind a bit of a going over. I mean Khazrak has had a massive buff, and Vlad too, there may be several more characters that have been significantly improved, so you may get your wish!

Surge_2#1464

Rise Chaos!

John_Kimble#3765

That thumbnail tho. Indypride never disappoints.
Can't wait to read full patch notes.

Timpeyo

Nice, I think this update is huge and alot off the LLs are getting tweeks and moved about.

GuTaiYP

Was this so difficult for CA to implement it years ago? No.

I do welcome these buffs, appreciated.
But the question is, why this late? For me the only logical explanation is either CA team is unfimiliar with how their own game mechanics work or they really care not a bit about requests we ask them to improve overall gameplay.

Surge_2#1464

GuTaiYP said:

Was this so difficult for CA to implement it years ago? No.

I do welcome these buffs, appreciated.
But the question is, why this late? For me the only logical explanation is either CA team is unfimiliar with how their own game mechanics work or they really care not a bit about requests we ask them to improve overall gameplay.

Because Dev Cycles, Project Cycles, and resourcing are a thing.

Exactly why I'm against the Far East. Just an utter waste of dev time that will hurt the game.

Vanilla_Gorilla#8529

GuTaiYP said:

Was this so difficult for CA to implement it years ago? No.

I do welcome these buffs, appreciated.
But the question is, why this late? For me the only logical explanation is either CA team is unfimiliar with how their own game mechanics work or they really care not a bit about requests we ask them to improve overall gameplay.

Why so negative? Should they have not done it?

Neodeinos#5871

Kelefane said:

This kind of gives me some hope for Malus.

Can't wait to see what's done with LLs myself. Maybe Queek and Tretch got some love. Can't wait to see what's done with my favorite LLs like Malekith and Grimgor and Ikit. Etc.

Hopefully Malus on Spite will actually be good, that's one of the few mount that is useless..

Mogwai_Man#4978

GuTaiYP said:

Was this so difficult for CA to implement it years ago? No.

I do welcome these buffs, appreciated.
But the question is, why this late? For me the only logical explanation is either CA team is unfimiliar with how their own game mechanics work or they really care not a bit about requests we ask them to improve overall gameplay.

CA in general takes years to change the game. Took 3 years to get unit caps.

Vanilla_Gorilla#8529

Hopefully he gets more love when Mono DLC comes out.

Goatforce said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Good week for him.

He also got an awesome new AoS model.

Oh that model is glorious! I am definitely getting it when it comes out, though I would not dare try giving it a non metalic metal paintjob like the one shown off in the reveal, that is far beyond me unfortunately!

Just painted my first two after years, doing that is a huge nope. Hell, white is a nope for me.

Fraxinus#9211

Nice! I wonder if Archaon or Kholek got any buffs?

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Itharus#3127

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Good week for him.

He also got an awesome new AoS model.

There is nothing awesome about AoS.

Geez man, you shill for AoS and Epic Games. For shame, Gorilla.

Surge_2#1464

Schwarzhelm said:

Is it really so good?
It seems nice but not a game changer for his character especially in MP, but of course I could be wrong.

Watch the video, he was a beast.

Surge_2#1464

Itharus said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Good week for him.

He also got an awesome new AoS model.

There is nothing awesome about AoS.

Geez man, you shill for AoS and Epic Games. For shame, Gorilla.

That's not totally fair, there is some good models in AoS. The new Slaves to Darkness Chaos models are awesome.

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Vanilla_Gorilla#8529

Itharus said:

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

Good week for him.

He also got an awesome new AoS model.

There is nothing awesome about AoS.

Geez man, you shill for AoS and Epic Games. For shame, Gorilla.

Epic Games gives me free fun games like Fortnite and Car soccer, it also irks some people. As for AoS.... I'd never collect it myself, but I can respect it. There's a lot of garbage in there but a lot of good stuff as well.

GuTaiYP

Surge_2 said:

GuTaiYP said:

Was this so difficult for CA to implement it years ago? No.

I do welcome these buffs, appreciated.
But the question is, why this late? For me the only logical explanation is either CA team is unfimiliar with how their own game mechanics work or they really care not a bit about requests we ask them to improve overall gameplay.

Because Dev Cycles, Project Cycles, and resourcing are a thing.

Exactly why I'm against the Far East. Just an utter waste of dev time that will hurt the game.

Ohh for God's sake come on, does it really require 3 years to buff but a few LLs now? What cycles are you talking about ? At least for once call CA's unfathomable behaviour regarding this very issue a problem please. This is how CA do / did all the time: They first ignore, then keep collecting every single reasonal petition without giving an ear, next they do change something in our favour, but heyy, a year or two has passed already and CA so wierdly even expect us to thank them, and show so much gratitude to them.

Shall I add bad communination to the list also?

@Vanilla_Gorilla

Vanilla_Gorilla#8529

GuTaiYP said:

Surge_2 said:

GuTaiYP said:

Was this so difficult for CA to implement it years ago? No.

I do welcome these buffs, appreciated.
But the question is, why this late? For me the only logical explanation is either CA team is unfimiliar with how their own game mechanics work or they really care not a bit about requests we ask them to improve overall gameplay.

Because Dev Cycles, Project Cycles, and resourcing are a thing.

Exactly why I'm against the Far East. Just an utter waste of dev time that will hurt the game.

Ohh for God's sake come on, does it really require 3 years to buff but a few LLs now? What cycles are you talking about ? At least for once call CA's unfathomable behaviour regarding this very issue a problem please. This is how CA do / did all the time: They first ignore, then keep collecting every single reasonal petition without giving an ear, next they do change something in our favour, but heyy, a year or two has passed already and CA so wierdly even expect us to thank them, and show so much gratitude to them.

Shall I add bad communination to the list also?

@Vanilla_Gorilla

So the response to this thing they've done is heavy criticism. Logically they shouldn't have done it then, right? That'd be the way to avoid criticism wouldn't it?

I'm not saying you have to praise them, I'm simply pointing out that you're heavily criticizing them for doing something good.

Surge_2#1464

GuTaiYP said:

Surge_2 said:

GuTaiYP said:

Was this so difficult for CA to implement it years ago? No.

I do welcome these buffs, appreciated.
But the question is, why this late? For me the only logical explanation is either CA team is unfimiliar with how their own game mechanics work or they really care not a bit about requests we ask them to improve overall gameplay.

Because Dev Cycles, Project Cycles, and resourcing are a thing.

Exactly why I'm against the Far East. Just an utter waste of dev time that will hurt the game.

Ohh for God's sake come on, does it really require 3 years to buff but a few LLs now? What cycles are you talking about ? At least for once call CA's unfathomable behaviour regarding this very issue a problem please. This is how CA do / did all the time: They first ignore, then keep collecting every single reasonal petition without giving an ear, next they do change something in our favour, but heyy, a year or two has passed already and CA so wierdly even expect us to thank them, and show so much gratitude to them.

Shall I add bad communination to the list also?

@Vanilla_Gorilla

The game is not nearly close to the top of their priority list the last several years. I'm not saying its acceptable, I am saying WHAT IT IS.

People work on what they are told to work on. Buffing some LL's for a poorly implemented pair of factions (WoC and BM) wasnt on that list of work.

Yes it could be done.
Yes it could be easy.

It doesnt matter one bit if Bob was told to work on something else.

Welcome to the reality of being a cog in a machine. Do what you are told, get paid, go home.

capybarasiesta89#4722

Fraxinus said:

Nice! I wonder if Archaon or Kholek got any buffs?

Archaon has AP damage and also Vlad apparently. I only saw MP game from Turin or DavhsPlay, unit card shown AP when he was mounted on Dorghar.

Biggles#4266

capybarasiesta89 said:

Fraxinus said:

Nice! I wonder if Archaon or Kholek got any buffs?

Archaon has AP damage and also Vlad apparently. I only saw MP game from Turin or DavhsPlay, unit card shown AP when he was mounted on Dorghar.

Nice! I wish they'd give Vlad a two handed sword but any buff to get older lords improved is brilliant.

Helhound#7332

capybarasiesta89 said:

Fraxinus said:

Nice! I wonder if Archaon or Kholek got any buffs?

Archaon has AP damage and also Vlad apparently. I only saw MP game from Turin or DavhsPlay, unit card shown AP when he was mounted on Dorghar.

Archaon has had near full AP damage for quite a while now. 330 to 140 or something like that.

SteelRonin#4832

I love to see new "factions" losing against the ol' Chaos

andrewbh2003

capybarasiesta89 said:

Fraxinus said:

Nice! I wonder if Archaon or Kholek got any buffs?

Archaon has AP damage and also Vlad apparently. I only saw MP game from Turin or DavhsPlay, unit card shown AP when he was mounted on Dorghar.

uhm archaon has had full AP since the vampire coast came out lol

and neither archaon or kholeak need buffs both are absolute powerhouses and archaon has not been the "Neverchosen" for a long time now

GuTaiYP

Vanilla_Gorilla said:

So the response to this thing they've done is heavy criticism. Logically they shouldn't have done it then, right? That'd be the way to avoid criticism wouldn't it?

I'm not saying you have to praise them, I'm simply pointing out that you're heavily criticizing them for doing something good.

Sorry but you basicly don't know how the demand and supply cycle works.
I like the way how you always look into things from a positive perspective, yet, my gorilla friend, too much dose always harmful in the end.

My 'heavy' criticism stems from the fact that me, you, and other fellows would be much more happier if these simple click buffs had been added to the game few years ago, isn't it? They could have done it much much earlier but they did not even bother. I critisize their irresponsible behaviour, not the buffs that recently came. Am I clear enough?

Otters007#7127

Vlad is actually amazing now:

* Armour Piercing (He does 300 armour piercing now which is huge).

* Causes terror (Something he did on tabletop, which is also significant).

* Unlimited uses of Carstein ring (only does 66% ward save now, but only a 120 second cooldown).

* +7 to his charge bonus (35 now, to help him hit even harder).