What and how many Races are we gonna get in WH3?

Ludbone#5956

As both Core Races and DLC's.

This is just my personal opinion. . .


• VERY LIKELY to BASICALLY CONFIRMED (hints + many contents, sources and material)

- Ogre Kingdoms
- Chaos Dwarfs
- Kislev
- Slaanesh
- Tzeentch
- Khorne
- Nurgle
- Legion of Nagash

• POSSIBLE to LIKELY

- Dogs of War
- Southern Realms
- Cathay

• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)

- Nippon
- Khuresh/Serpent Naga
- Kingdom of Ind
- Albion
- Amazons
- Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)

Captain_Rex#1635

My guess:

- Ogres
- Chaos Dwarfs
- DoC
- Kislev
- DoW
- Nagash
- Hobgoblins
- Amazons
- Cathay

#25795

Stating that monogods are basically confirmed feels contentious. Maybe CA will do it, maybe they won't. As it stands I'd dare say one unifed DoC race is the most likely scenario for game 3.

Captain_Rex#1635

Ludbone said:

As both Core Races and DLC's.

This is just my personal opinion. . .


• VERY LIKELY to BASICALLY CONFIRMED (hints + many contents, sources and material)

- Ogre Kingdoms
- Chaos Dwarfs
- Kislev
- Slaanesh
- Tzeentch
- Khorne
- Nurgle
- Legion of Nagash

• POSSIBLE to LIKELY

- Dogs of War
- Southern Realms
- Cathay

• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)

- Nippon
- Khuresh/Serpent Naga
- Kingdom of Ind
- Albion
- Amazons
- Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)

Amazons are POSSIBLE.

DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.

Monogods are UNLIKELY.

DeadpoolSW#7283

Core:
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Daemons of Chaos
Chaos Dwarfs

Likely DLC:
Dogs of War
Cathay
Hobgoblin Khanate
Legion of Nagash

Unlikely DLC/At the end of the life cycle:
Albion
Araby
Amazons
Halflings
Nippon
Ind

Least likely:
Khuresh
Kurgan (I’m coming around on them)

cedricgu#8091

Dogs of war are more likely than monogods or legions of nagash since they had an army book. OP could also add the hobgoblin khanate to his list, eventhough it is very unlikely.

MrDragon#2461

My prediction:

Core:
Chaos Dwarves
Ogres
Kislev
Daemons of Chaos

DLC:
Nagash (in some fashion)
Monogod Chaos factions
Dogs of War/Southernrealms

That's it.
All other DLC will be dedicated to filling out missing characters for the WH1, WH2 and the new WH3 factions.


Imho asking for more is asking for disappointment and stretching thin of resources across a cast of playable armies that are already still missing enough TLC for another 5 years of content.

Ludbone#5956

Araethon said:

Stating that monogods are basically confirmed feels contentious. Maybe CA will do it, maybe they won't. As it stands I'd dare say one unifed DoC race is the most likely scenario for game 3.

Monogods fall on very likely, basing on the fact that CA already came to the conclusion that Mono-Gods could work;



http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html

And the fact that they have tons of contents and dozens of different sources in order to make full fleshed out rosters and several additional contents, FLC and DLC material.

CA & GW sat together; determined that Game 3 should be Monogod races and planned accordingly. At the stage of this leak game 3 was 100% planned to be Monogods.

CA have since confirmed this is out of date (and we know this as it has only been partially correct regarding races); but CA also confirmed it was a real leak. It is literally true that CA & GW agreed that Mono-Races were independent factions at this stage.

Has it changed? Who knows? But CA & GW were jointly convinced in 2016 they should be separated and we know this for fact. So it's also factually incorrect to say they can't be independent because we know GW believe they could (and in AoS they very much are).

In Summary: Until we get evidence that 100% proves Monogods won't be coming; they will always remain a solid possibility (because we have evidence that 100% proves they are a possibility.)

People need to stop suggesting that Monogods are impossible; as this is provable lie.


Furthermore this was the start of the push towards Mono-races as we cotinnued to receive monogod units and mechanics. 40k also pushed in the same direction. It is now safe to say that since the birth of AoS GW consider them as seperate factions;



So the only question remains how will GW & CA agree to split them up for total war. If they didn't split them up it would certainly be a surprise given how much effort GW have made making them unique lately. We do have to remember that as far as GW are concerned total war is one big advertisement for their figures; AoS releases tie into total war content. Also Warhammer 'the old world' is coming; and it should come as no surprise that the Kislev reveal for that game ties into our expectations for Kislev as a full race of their own.

Lavasiot

100% SURE

Cathay
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Amazons
Hobgoblins
Chaos Dwarfs
Khuresh
Amazons

VERY LIKELY

Halflings
Nippon
Ind
Daemons
Dogs of War

POSSIBLE

Sea Elves
Albion
Southern Realms

IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAMS

Monogods
Legion of Nagash

Seswatha#7633

Monogods are not impossible, but since then CA has stated that DoC are their own race separate from WoC (as it should be) not even remotely guaranteed. Ultimately it's in the air, but "very likely" is not where it's at, its 50/50 at best whereas Ogres and Chaos Dwarfs are 100% guaranteed.

I'm personally sympathetic with people wanting monos and think they should be done as DLC WoC subfactions, but not at the cost of removing DoC (an actual armybook race) from the game.

Chocolate_Rain

- Ogre Kingdoms
- Chaos Dwarfs
- Kislev
- Monogods (Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh, Tzeentch
- Legion of Nagash
- Dogs of War
- Southern Realms

Everything else looks too far from the WH3 map and have very little to no official contents...mostly fanmade stuff...we'll see.

Captain_Rex#1635

To share my thoughts:

Confirmed:
- DoC
- Ogres
- Chaos Dwarfs

Almost guaranteed:
- Kislev
- DoW

Likely:
- Nagash
- Hobgoblins

Possible:
- Amazons
- Cathay

Unlikely:
- Halflings
- Albion
- Monogods

Extremely unlikely:
- Ind
- Nippon
- Serpent Naga
- Kurgan

Confirmed dead:
- Araby

Chocolate_Rain

Lavasiot said:

100% SURE

Cathay
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Amazons
Hobgoblins
Chaos Dwarfs
Khuresh
Amazons

VERY LIKELY

Halflings
Nippon
Ind
Daemons
Dogs of War

POSSIBLE

Sea Elves
Albion
Southern Realms

IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAMS

Monogods
Legion of Nagash

How exactly Monos and LoN are impossible when both have 99,9% more material, sources and stuff than Cathay, Amazons, Nippon, Khuresh, Halflings, Albion and Kingdom of Ind togheter?

Captain_Rex#1635

Chocolate_Rain said:

Lavasiot said:

100% SURE

Cathay
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Amazons
Hobgoblins
Chaos Dwarfs
Khuresh
Amazons

VERY LIKELY

Halflings
Nippon
Ind
Daemons
Dogs of War

POSSIBLE

Sea Elves
Albion
Southern Realms

IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAMS

Monogods
Legion of Nagash

How exactly Monos and LoN are impossible when both have 99,9% more material, sources and stuff than Cathay, Amazons, Nippon, Khuresh, Halflings, Albion and Kingdom of Ind togheter?

Because CA said that they won’t mix DoC and WoC mich makes monogods nearly impossible.

Monofactions similar to Arkhan or Alarielle are way more likely.

DeadpoolSW#7283

ArneSo said:

To share my thoughts:

Confirmed:
- DoC
- Ogres
- Chaos Dwarfs

Almost guaranteed:
- Kislev
- DoW

Likely:
- Nagash
- Hobgoblins

Possible:
- Amazons
- Cathay

Unlikely:
- Halflings
- Albion
- Monogods

Extremely unlikely:
- Ind
- Nippon
- Serpent Naga
- Kurgan

Confirmed dead:
- Araby

Can we change Araby to Confirmed dead FOR NOW?

Fossoway#5540

Ludbone said:

As both Core Races and DLC's.

This is just my personal opinion. . .


• VERY LIKELY to BASICALLY CONFIRMED (hints + many contents, sources and material)

- Ogre Kingdoms
- Chaos Dwarfs
- Kislev
- Slaanesh
- Tzeentch
- Khorne
- Nurgle
- Legion of Nagash

• POSSIBLE to LIKELY

- Dogs of War
- Southern Realms
- Cathay

• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)

- Nippon
- Khuresh/Serpent Naga
- Kingdom of Ind
- Albion
- Amazons
- Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)

I agree with most of that, with some changes:
- I doubt we'll see independent Monogods, I think them being subfactions of the Daemons and Warriors of Chaos makes more sense (and are easier implemented)
- I'd put the Legions of Nagash as possible, but not that likely

Lavasiot

Chocolate_Rain said:

Lavasiot said:

100% SURE

Cathay
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Amazons
Hobgoblins
Chaos Dwarfs
Khuresh
Amazons

VERY LIKELY

Halflings
Nippon
Ind
Daemons
Dogs of War

POSSIBLE

Sea Elves
Albion
Southern Realms

IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAMS

Monogods
Legion of Nagash

How exactly Monos and LoN are impossible when both have 99,9% more material, sources and stuff than Cathay, Amazons, Nippon, Khuresh, Halflings, Albion and Kingdom of Ind togheter?

Stop the cap, bruh. CA can barely make DoC and the 4 Gods have nothing to offer and their units sucks. Legion of Nagash is just a fanmade pipedream. Who tf care about Chaos Gods in the first place? They have many lords and several exclusive units so what? Cathay, Albion, Nippon and so on have official armybooks, buddy. So inform yourself before tagging me again, bruh.

CormacSVK

I like how everybody is ignoring the fact that CA has clearly stated that they have NO plans to include Cathay. Yet people somehow live in denial.
Not to mention that first all the actual races of Warhammer shoud be introduced and fleshed out. Cathay, Nippon and Ind are basically non-existent, being a little more than flavour text of the world.

MrDragon#2461

Lavasiot said:

Chocolate_Rain said:

Lavasiot said:

100% SURE

Cathay
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Amazons
Hobgoblins
Chaos Dwarfs
Khuresh
Amazons

VERY LIKELY

Halflings
Nippon
Ind
Daemons
Dogs of War

POSSIBLE

Sea Elves
Albion
Southern Realms

IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAMS

Monogods
Legion of Nagash

How exactly Monos and LoN are impossible when both have 99,9% more material, sources and stuff than Cathay, Amazons, Nippon, Khuresh, Halflings, Albion and Kingdom of Ind togheter?

Stop the cap, bruh. CA can barely make DoC and the 4 Gods have nothing to offer and their units sucks. Legion of Nagash is just a fanmade pipedream. Who tf care about Chaos Gods in the first place? They have many lords and several exclusive units so what? Cathay, Albion, Nippon and so on have official armybooks, buddy. So inform yourself before tagging me again, bruh.

... You do realise all the "books" you listed are unofficial fan content right? They're not official at all.

Chocolate_Rain

...You know that those are totally FAN-MADE armybooks, don't you "bro"?

Oh, so you acknowledge Monos has tons of stuff on their side, unlike your FAN-MADE races. Good.

And Nagash is a pipe dream?! Straight out ignorance of the WH world. Have you played the game tho? There are so many Nagash and Mortarchs hints...

Captain_Rex#1635

CormacSVK said:

I like how everybody is ignoring the fact that CA has clearly stated that they have NO plans to include Cathay. Yet people somehow live in denial.
Not to mention that first all the actual races of Warhammer shoud be introduced and fleshed out. Cathay, Nippon and Ind are basically non-existent, being a little more than flavour text of the world.

You are confusing Cathay with Araby.

Lavasiot

MrDragon said:

Lavasiot said:

Chocolate_Rain said:

Lavasiot said:

100% SURE

Cathay
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Amazons
Hobgoblins
Chaos Dwarfs
Khuresh
Amazons

VERY LIKELY

Halflings
Nippon
Ind
Daemons
Dogs of War

POSSIBLE

Sea Elves
Albion
Southern Realms

IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAMS

Monogods
Legion of Nagash

How exactly Monos and LoN are impossible when both have 99,9% more material, sources and stuff than Cathay, Amazons, Nippon, Khuresh, Halflings, Albion and Kingdom of Ind togheter?

Stop the cap, bruh. CA can barely make DoC and the 4 Gods have nothing to offer and their units sucks. Legion of Nagash is just a fanmade pipedream. Who tf care about Chaos Gods in the first place? They have many lords and several exclusive units so what? Cathay, Albion, Nippon and so on have official armybooks, buddy. So inform yourself before tagging me again, bruh.

... You do realise all the "books" you listed are unofficial fan content right? They're not official at all.

Sure sure.You're funny, bruh. Licensed by Games Workshop, unlike your precious Nagash bonehead and Chaos Gods. Hell Cathay, Khuresh and Hobs alone stomps Chaos Dwarfs too in quantity. Also aren't Chaos Dwarfs not even part of the 8th edition races anymore? lol.

Lavasiot

Chocolate_Rain said:

...You know that those are totally FAN-MADE armybooks, don't you "bro"?

Oh, so you acknowledge Monos has tons of stuff on their side, unlike your FAN-MADE races. Good.

And Nagash is a pipe dream?! Straight out ignorance of the WH world. Have you played the game tho? There are so many Nagash and Mortarchs hints...

They are not fanmade. Stop cappin'

DeadpoolSW#7283

Lavasiot said:

MrDragon said:

Lavasiot said:

Chocolate_Rain said:

Lavasiot said:

100% SURE

Cathay
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Amazons
Hobgoblins
Chaos Dwarfs
Khuresh
Amazons

VERY LIKELY

Halflings
Nippon
Ind
Daemons
Dogs of War

POSSIBLE

Sea Elves
Albion
Southern Realms

IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAMS

Monogods
Legion of Nagash

How exactly Monos and LoN are impossible when both have 99,9% more material, sources and stuff than Cathay, Amazons, Nippon, Khuresh, Halflings, Albion and Kingdom of Ind togheter?

Stop the cap, bruh. CA can barely make DoC and the 4 Gods have nothing to offer and their units sucks. Legion of Nagash is just a fanmade pipedream. Who tf care about Chaos Gods in the first place? They have many lords and several exclusive units so what? Cathay, Albion, Nippon and so on have official armybooks, buddy. So inform yourself before tagging me again, bruh.

... You do realise all the "books" you listed are unofficial fan content right? They're not official at all.

Sure sure.You're funny, bruh. Licensed by Games Workshop, unlike your precious Nagash bonehead and Chaos Gods. Hell Cathay, Khuresh and Hobs alone stomps Chaos Dwarfs too in quantity. Also aren't Chaos Dwarfs not even part of the 8th edition races anymore? lol.

Mate, all those books are fanmade from the Warhammer Armies Project- those races NEVER had an army book.

EDIT: Never mind, this guy joined an hour ago, he's a troll.

Lavasiot

DeadpoolSW said:

Lavasiot said:

MrDragon said:

Lavasiot said:

Chocolate_Rain said:

Lavasiot said:

100% SURE

Cathay
Kislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Amazons
Hobgoblins
Chaos Dwarfs
Khuresh
Amazons

VERY LIKELY

Halflings
Nippon
Ind
Daemons
Dogs of War

POSSIBLE

Sea Elves
Albion
Southern Realms

IMPOSSIBLE PIPE DREAMS

Monogods
Legion of Nagash

How exactly Monos and LoN are impossible when both have 99,9% more material, sources and stuff than Cathay, Amazons, Nippon, Khuresh, Halflings, Albion and Kingdom of Ind togheter?

Stop the cap, bruh. CA can barely make DoC and the 4 Gods have nothing to offer and their units sucks. Legion of Nagash is just a fanmade pipedream. Who tf care about Chaos Gods in the first place? They have many lords and several exclusive units so what? Cathay, Albion, Nippon and so on have official armybooks, buddy. So inform yourself before tagging me again, bruh.

... You do realise all the "books" you listed are unofficial fan content right? They're not official at all.

Sure sure.You're funny, bruh. Licensed by Games Workshop, unlike your precious Nagash bonehead and Chaos Gods. Hell Cathay, Khuresh and Hobs alone stomps Chaos Dwarfs too in quantity. Also aren't Chaos Dwarfs not even part of the 8th edition races anymore? lol.

Mate, all those books are fanmade from the Warhammer Armies Project- those races NEVER had an army book.

EDIT: Never mind, this guy joined an hour ago, he's a troll.

So what is your point, bruh? Even if they are all fanmade they have more **** than the majority of the official races, including Chaos Gods, Nagash and Chaos Dwarfs that have had nothing or few things in all Warhammer Fantasy.

Hobgoblins and Khuresh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chaos Gods, Nagash, Kislev, SOuthern Realms.

Tyrant#1234

I can't help but feel all this hype over Cathay will only go the way of Araby...

Yitterbum

CORE:

• Daemons of Chaos
  
• Ogre Kingdoms
  
• Chaos Dwarfs
  
• Kislev or Dogs of War/Southern Realms
  

DLC:

• Kislev or Dogs of War/Southern Realms
  

All of the above had their own rulebooks or White Dwarf supplement (Kislev).

FLC:

• Nagashi/Undead Legions - (We technically have almost all the units for it barring Morghasts. Just give them a retexture to fit Nagash's theme and a new campaign. Personally, I would like to see him implemented as one of the big baddies of game 3. Beating game 3 would allow you to unlock his campaign if you own Tomb Kings and Game 1.)
  

That's pretty much it. Since Araby isn't happening, I am certain the races to the far east which have little to no content are not happening either. Races like Amazons, Halflings, and Albion will make it in through the Dogs of War/Southern Realms roster. Hobgoblins will make it in through the Chaos Dwarfs' roster; They may even get a LL with Gorduz Backstabber which focuses on Hobgoblins (Chaos Dwarfs 4th edition.) I see WoC getting their monogod themes through lord packs, since it would not require splitting up Warriors of Chaos into two separate races.

So most likely 6 races in total.

Commissar_G#7535

If I have to say Southern Realms and DoW aren't different one more time I might pop a blood vessel.

Also putting them as only possible when they have an army book is actually absurd.

DeadpoolSW#7283

Commissar_G said:

If I have to say Southern Realms and DoW aren't different one more time I might pop a blood vessel.

Also putting them as only possible when they have an army book is actually absurd.

I would have the race be called Dogs of War, and the roster would be 60% Southern Realms (renaissance Italy/spain) and 40% Dogs of War (assets/units stolen from other races, even those not in game like Albion/Araby).

Murmurlock

It would be cool to see monogods with new super function of 3 game. NEW CONFEDERATION SYSTEM which allows you confederate faction of another race. The chaos gods will be able confederate each other and unite. All elves will be able to stand under the standard of Malekith or Alariel. The empire will be able unite Kislev, Bretonia and maybe dwarfs.
It will give to player minor race mechanic in gampaign, such as slaves, world roots and etc.

HappyBoomer#9453

Ingr8 said:

Ludbone said:

Araethon said:

Stating that monogods are basically confirmed feels contentious. Maybe CA will do it, maybe they won't. As it stands I'd dare say one unifed DoC race is the most likely scenario for game 3.

Monogods fall on very likely, basing on the fact that CA already came to the conclusion that Mono-Gods could work;

So CA were talking about "subfractions" were they? With that level of illiteracy I would never take it seriously

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