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- Kislev (WH1 Bretonnia-like race, expanded later via FLC or PRE-ORDER)
- Chaos Dwarfs
- Legion of Nagash (WH1 Bretonnia-like race, expanded later via FLC or PRE-ORDER)
DLC RACES:
- Tzeentch
- Nurgle
- Dogs of War
- Southern Realms
POSSIBLE ETC.
- Everything CA wants to create. As long as i get those races up there.....i don't mind. Actually every extra race after that would be awesome, so....Cathay, Serpent Naga, Albion or wathever....looks good to me.
Monogods are not "very likely" they are actually, very UNLIKELY.... For several reasons:
1: They would massacre the Warriors of Chaos roster, meaning that fans of the faction would get over-**** beyond reason. 2: They would bloat the roster of LLs with Chaos aligned characters, leading all other faction fans to start whine and scream. 3: The idea of Monogod factions are highly superfluous, since you can achieve the exact same, by just letting Warriors of Chaos have proper marked units, which are visually distinct. It would cost CA less, than it would wasting their manhours and money on dewveloping Monogods. 4: Since the best arguement for Monogods is "wouldn't it be neat?", then chances are that it wouldn't actually be neat, and shouldn't be considered an option.
I'd call it a personal issue. Especially when CA might have just trashed the Norsca idea and add all their stuff into WoC... but look what CA did instead.
Do you really think WoC is going to get all or almost all the stuff Monos can get by either being Campaign Packs or Cores or both? Dang, pretty huge hopes you have right there...
I'd rather have a proper playable DoC roster even if it means less stuff than 4 made up rosters that don't even allow you to mix different daemons. Although I don't see why they can't do more content as DLC.
Do you really think WoC is going to get all or almost all the stuff Monos can get by either being Campaign Packs or Cores or both?
WoC should get WoC units and DoC should get DoC units. Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
Including the plethora of LL's, Heroes, Lords and the mechanics/lore divided Chaos Races can get?
1. That would be too much for WoC to handle. And just like every other fan of every other race me and the Monos fans want everything or almost everything.
2. It would turn into a Skaven debacle. I love Skaven but, sadly, people now are against Skaven getting any other content. Actually this debacle happened with VCoast and Undead aswell.
3. CA choose to create Norsca, instead of adding all their stuff and mechanics into WoC. Interesting choice, isn't it?
4. CA and GW already took into consideration the addition of the 4 divided Chaos Races. Calling them impossible or pipe dreams would be like denying the truth.
5. If people are advocating the addition of completely not-official fanmade races like Khuresh, Ind or Nippon then i can't see why the simple idea of getting Monos would be forbidden.
Monogods are not "very likely" they are actually, very UNLIKELY.... For several reasons:
1: They would massacre the Warriors of Chaos roster, meaning that fans of the faction would get over-**** beyond reason. 2: They would bloat the roster of LLs with Chaos aligned characters, leading all other faction fans to start whine and scream. 3: The idea of Monogod factions are highly superfluous, since you can achieve the exact same, by just letting Warriors of Chaos have proper marked units, which are visually distinct. It would cost CA less, than it would wasting their manhours and money on dewveloping Monogods. 4: Since the best arguement for Monogods is "wouldn't it be neat?", then chances are that it wouldn't actually be neat, and shouldn't be considered an option.
I'd call it a personal issue. Especially when CA might have just trashed the Norsca idea and add all their stuff into WoC... but look what CA did instead.
Do you really think WoC is going to get all or almost all the stuff Monos can get by either being Campaign Packs or Cores or both? Dang, pretty huge hopes you have right there...
Practically nothing from the Norscan roster, was in the WoC roster.. Only the Marauders on foot and horsemen and Chaos Trolls... The rest is new for Norsca.. So why on Earth should WoC get those units? They wouldn't fit there, and it would be a gigantic disservice to the actual fans of WoC, since they would be cheated out of units they actually care for...
I don't think that they will go the way of the mono, becuase it would be extremely expensive to very little reward. Add to that the fact that the fans of Warriors of Chaos, Daemons of Chaos and Beasts of Chaos would all also be cheated out of good units, or be made redundant, and you got a very clear view of exactly why monogod will never ever happen.
5. If people are advocating the addition of completely not-official fanmade races like Khuresh, Ind or Nippon then i can't see why the simple idea of getting Monos would be forbidden.
Because adding something that never existed isn't the same thing as not adding something that does exist and should be in the game.
Do you really think WoC is going to get all or almost all the stuff Monos can get by either being Campaign Packs or Cores or both?
WoC should get WoC units and DoC should get DoC units. Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
Including the plethora of LL's, Heroes, Lords and the mechanics/lore divided Chaos Races can get?
1. That would be too much for WoC to handle. And just like every other fan of every other race me and the Monos fans want everything or almost everything.
2. It would turn into a Skaven debacle. I love Skaven but, sadly, people now are against Skaven getting any other content. Actually this debacle happened with VCoast and Undead aswell.
3. CA choose to create Norsca, instead of adding all their stuff and mechanics into WoC. Interesting choice, isn't it?
4. CA and GW already took into consideration the addition of the 4 divided Chaos Races. Calling them impossible or pipe dreams would be like denying the truth.
5. If people are advocating the addition of completely not-official fanmade races like Khuresh, Ind or Nippon then i can't see why the simple idea of getting Monos would be forbidden.
1. WoC roster is very big but not that big if you don't include BM and daemons so it's "too much to handle". And they shouldn't have BM and daemons.
2. The people against Skaven and VC content are a vocal minority, and would forget about it anyway (already forgot about VC). If you think CA would make a Skaven or VC DLC and it wouldn't do well (for reasons it's Skaven or VC) you'd be surprised. Thanquol and VC content are coming (obviously not immediately in case of Skaven as you don't want to do too much of one thing in a row, but I think Neffy might be really close). Also if you think adding 4 new homebrew races would fly any better, do you think people would be more accepting of every Skaven great clan being its own RACE with 4 LLs?
3. Norsca was created to replace the placeholder "WoC light" faction that occupied a significant portion of the map. It makes a better case for Hobgoblins than for Monos.
4. Personally I'm not calling them impossible, but I don't think they're likely given the current state of things. You're free to think otherwise of course.
5. Most of these won't happen, but if they do, they won't happen at the cost of an official race like DoC.
Also, it seems this thread is not about what's likely, but what about different people want to see lol. The fact that you want monos doesn't make them very likely. Just like the fact that someone doesn't want them does not make them impossible.
Seeing people calling Monogods impossible to happen, while also harassing the users who would like to see Monogods in the game; and then throwing out names like Nippon, Cathay or Amazons is...I have to tell you, it's quite hilarious.
On-Topic: at this point everything is possible but Araby.
Every time I see Hobbits, Amazons and Albion mentioned as actual individual races, not only does god kill a kitten in front of a child, I punch myself in the mouth.
Seeing people calling Monogods impossible to happen, while also harassing the users who would like to see Monogods in the game; and then throwing out names like Nippon, Cathay or Amazons is...I have to tell you, it's quite hilarious.
On-Topic: at this point everything is possible but Araby.
Core game: Kislev Ogre Kingdoms Daemons of Chaos Chaos Dwarfs
Campaign packs: Dogs of War Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder: Nagash (but not as a new race, he'll bring new goodies for the vampire counts, several new LLs and have a very unique campaign, but's it's not going to be a brand new race like Tomb Kings or Norsca.)
Anything beyond those six are based on wishful thinking on our parts. Cathay will only happen if GW is actively creating Cathay for the Old World for instance. And "monogods" are literally all the missing things from BM and WoC combined with the Daemons of Chaos roster and divided into four different colors; they'll come as factions, but not as distinct races; this isn't Age of Sigmar here.
Core game: Kislev Ogre Kingdoms Daemons of Chaos Chaos Dwarfs
--- This should not be debated, nothing else makes any sense.
Campaign packs: Mono Gods Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder: DoW/Southern Realms/Border Princes
I honestly believe that those options make the most sense, by far, everything else is a Lord Pack for each Game 1 or Game 2 Race, which will receive 1 update.
Core game: Kislev Ogre Kingdoms Daemons of Chaos Chaos Dwarfs
Campaign packs: Dogs of War Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder: Nagash (but not as a new race, he'll bring new goodies for the vampire counts, several new LLs and have a very unique campaign, but's it's not going to be a brand new race like Tomb Kings or Norsca.)
Anything beyond those six are based on wishful thinking on our parts. Cathay will only happen if GW is actively creating Cathay for the Old World for instance. And "monogods" are literally all the missing things from BM and WoC combined with the Daemons of Chaos roster and divided into four different colors; they'll come as factions, but not as distinct races; this isn't Age of Sigmar here.
RIP my serpent-naga...
Not really as Cathay isn't part of the Old World map.
The likelihood for Cathay is more to do with running out of what CA see as sell-able options.
I can imagine the guys working on WH(mobile) would like to apply their version of fantasy to it as they said. Cathay's route in does not come from a update to the original Old World.
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Core game: Kislev Ogre Kingdoms Daemons of Chaos Chaos Dwarfs
Campaign packs: Dogs of War Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder: Nagash (but not as a new race, he'll bring new goodies for the vampire counts, several new LLs and have a very unique campaign, but's it's not going to be a brand new race like Tomb Kings or Norsca.)
Anything beyond those six are based on wishful thinking on our parts. Cathay will only happen if GW is actively creating Cathay for the Old World for instance. And "monogods" are literally all the missing things from BM and WoC combined with the Daemons of Chaos roster and divided into four different colors; they'll come as factions, but not as distinct races; this isn't Age of Sigmar here.
RIP my serpent-naga...
Not really as Cathay isn't part of the Old World map.
The likelihood for Cathay is more to do with running out of what CA see as sell-able options.
I can imagine the guys working on WH(mobile) would like to apply their version of fantasy to it as they said. Cathay's route in does not come from a update to the original Old World.
I mean, you're right in that it's possible to come via the mobile game or TWW. But I really, really doubt it. GW wants their fingers in every copyright pie imaginable, which leads me to believe that if such a major development was to take place (the creation of a race/roster from practically nothing that is) that they probably wouldn't want to share that IP. Again possible, but I don't have much hope anymore after the whole Araby thing, and I used to campaign hard for Cathay.
Regarding the new Old World TT game, I'm 99% sure that the naming is in reference to the 'the World that Was' of Age of Sigmar, and not just the continent of the world; otherwise they'd never update Elves, Ogres, Lizardmen and Tomb Kings.
Core game: Kislev Ogre Kingdoms Daemons of Chaos Chaos Dwarfs
--- This should not be debated, nothing else makes any sense.
Campaign packs: Mono Gods Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder: DoW/Southern Realms/Border Princes
I honestly believe that those options make the most sense, by far, everything else is a Lord Pack for each Game 1 or Game 2 Race, which will receive 1 update.
Hobgoblins should be the preorder instead of DoW which should be a 20€ campaign pack with a completely unique roster.
I don't think any one seriously expect Cathay, and if they do they severely need to lower their expectations. What many people are expressing on the other hand, is an acknowledgement that Cathay could be introduced. That is very true, that Cathay could be introduced. The game could also be cancelled before release. I doubt both cases equally, but I know which I would appreciate more..
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
Core game: Kislev Ogre Kingdoms Daemons of Chaos Chaos Dwarfs
--- This should not be debated, nothing else makes any sense.
Campaign packs: Mono Gods Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder: DoW/Southern Realms/Border Princes
I honestly believe that those options make the most sense, by far, everything else is a Lord Pack for each Game 1 or Game 2 Race, which will receive 1 update.
Hobgoblins should be the preorder instead of DoW which should be a 20€ campaign pack with a completely unique roster.
Core game: Kislev Ogre Kingdoms Daemons of Chaos Chaos Dwarfs
Campaign packs: Dogs of War Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder: Nagash (but not as a new race, he'll bring new goodies for the vampire counts, several new LLs and have a very unique campaign, but's it's not going to be a brand new race like Tomb Kings or Norsca.)
Anything beyond those six are based on wishful thinking on our parts. Cathay will only happen if GW is actively creating Cathay for the Old World for instance. And "monogods" are literally all the missing things from BM and WoC combined with the Daemons of Chaos roster and divided into four different colors; they'll come as factions, but not as distinct races; this isn't Age of Sigmar here.
RIP my serpent-naga...
Not really as Cathay isn't part of the Old World map.
The likelihood for Cathay is more to do with running out of what CA see as sell-able options.
I can imagine the guys working on WH(mobile) would like to apply their version of fantasy to it as they said. Cathay's route in does not come from a update to the original Old World.
I mean, you're right in that it's possible to come via the mobile game or TWW. But I really, really doubt it. GW wants their fingers in every copyright pie imaginable, which leads me to believe that if such a major development was to take place (the creation of a race/roster from practically nothing that is) that they probably wouldn't want to share that IP. Again possible, but I don't have much hope anymore after the whole Araby thing, and I used to campaign hard for Cathay.
Regarding the new Old World TT game, I'm 99% sure that the naming is in reference to the 'the World that Was' of Age of Sigmar, and not just the continent of the world; otherwise they'd never update Elves, Ogres, Lizardmen and Tomb Kings.
I imagine any contract with GW will be simple and to the point - 'everything that comes out of this trilogy is mine all mine'. So, if NetEase puts the money into creating something for their game it will still belong to GW as it is part of the WH world.
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
They said that Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos would be implemented as their army books depicted them. This is something most people infer to mean, taht monogods are unrealistic, since they would simply share too many units from those two factions.
Core game: Kislev Ogre Kingdoms Daemons of Chaos Chaos Dwarfs
Campaign packs: Dogs of War Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder: Nagash (but not as a new race, he'll bring new goodies for the vampire counts, several new LLs and have a very unique campaign, but's it's not going to be a brand new race like Tomb Kings or Norsca.)
Anything beyond those six are based on wishful thinking on our parts. Cathay will only happen if GW is actively creating Cathay for the Old World for instance. And "monogods" are literally all the missing things from BM and WoC combined with the Daemons of Chaos roster and divided into four different colors; they'll come as factions, but not as distinct races; this isn't Age of Sigmar here.
RIP my serpent-naga...
Not really as Cathay isn't part of the Old World map.
The likelihood for Cathay is more to do with running out of what CA see as sell-able options.
I can imagine the guys working on WH(mobile) would like to apply their version of fantasy to it as they said. Cathay's route in does not come from a update to the original Old World.
I mean, you're right in that it's possible to come via the mobile game or TWW. But I really, really doubt it. GW wants their fingers in every copyright pie imaginable, which leads me to believe that if such a major development was to take place (the creation of a race/roster from practically nothing that is) that they probably wouldn't want to share that IP. Again possible, but I don't have much hope anymore after the whole Araby thing, and I used to campaign hard for Cathay.
Regarding the new Old World TT game, I'm 99% sure that the naming is in reference to the 'the World that Was' of Age of Sigmar, and not just the continent of the world; otherwise they'd never update Elves, Ogres, Lizardmen and Tomb Kings.
I imagine any contract with GW will be simple and to the point - 'everything that comes out of this trilogy is mine all mine'. So, if NetEase puts the money into creating something for their game it will still belong to GW as it is part of the WH world.
Lol, Geedubs is Gollum confirmed. That logic I can get behind, we'll see then. Personally my (exceedingly unlikely) pipedream scenario is that the franchise does so well that they decide to do a fourth game with brand new Cathay, Nippon, Ind and Khuresh rosters (and Fishmen!). But that hinges on both TWW and The Old World being far more successful than what anyone expects. Regardless there's bound to be some surprises for us players even if it's not as grand as a brand new roster.
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
They said that Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos would be implemented as their army books depicted them. This is something most people infer to mean, taht monogods are unrealistic, since they would simply share too many units from those two factions.
Well...of course they would share the units, thats the point. lol
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
They said that Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos would be implemented as their army books depicted them. This is something most people infer to mean, taht monogods are unrealistic, since they would simply share too many units from those two factions.
This is an often mis-quoted stated. They said WoC & DoC would be separate - however what does that mean?
No one is suggesting WoC would disappear as a faction; nor that we can't have DoC undivided content. Only that we may have Mono-God factions separate to WoC. This does not prohibit the statement.
WoC Khorne Nurgle Slaanesh Tzeentch
As five races - these are separate from one another are they not? How else could you describe it?
We have had far far too many hints (and even a leak) to suggest Mono-Gods are impossible based on the interpretation of a quote.
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
What I could see is Monofactions. So something similar to Arkhan or Alarielle, where some LLs have access to god specific units from the other race.
Valkia for example should be a WoC LL with god aligned WoC units, stuff like Wrathmongers or units like this:
But these units should be available for all WoC factions. Valkias factions could also get access to certain Khorne themed DoC units.
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
They said that Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos would be implemented as their army books depicted them. This is something most people infer to mean, taht monogods are unrealistic, since they would simply share too many units from those two factions.
This is an often mis-quoted stated. They said WoC & DoC would be separate - however what does that mean?
No one is suggesting WoC would disappear as a faction; nor that we can't have DoC undivided content. Only that we may have Mono-God factions separate to WoC. This does not prohibit the statement.
WoC Khorne Nurgle Slaanesh Tzeentch
As five races - these are separate from one another are they not? How else could you describe it?
We have had far far too many hints (and even a leak) to suggest Mono-Gods are impossible based on the interpretation of a quote.
Depends on what you mean by the 4 god races here. If they have both mortal and daemon units, no they are not separate. And there's not enough content for 4 races of just pure daemons. I can't find the quote quickly but it was implied that daemons will be implemented as their 8th edition armybook. This does not exclude "mixed" subfactions coming as well or CA changing their mind later, but not doing undivided DoC would mean they're the only 8th edition codex that is not implemented and a big disappointment for everyone who wants them (believe me we exist).
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
They said that Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos would be implemented as their army books depicted them. This is something most people infer to mean, taht monogods are unrealistic, since they would simply share too many units from those two factions.
This is an often mis-quoted stated. They said WoC & DoC would be separate - however what does that mean?
No one is suggesting WoC would disappear as a faction; nor that we can't have DoC undivided content. Only that we may have Mono-God factions separate to WoC. This does not prohibit the statement.
WoC Khorne Nurgle Slaanesh Tzeentch
As five races - these are separate from one another are they not? How else could you describe it?
We have had far far too many hints (and even a leak) to suggest Mono-Gods are impossible based on the interpretation of a quote.
Depends on what you mean by the 4 god races here. If they have both mortal and daemon units, no they are not separate. And I can't find the quote quickly but it was implied that daemons will be implemented as their 8th edition armybook. This does not exclude "mixed" subfactions coming as well or CA changing their mind later, but not doing undivided DoC would mean they're the only 8th edition codex that is not implemented and a big disappointment for everyone who wants them (believe me we exist).
Norsca has already taken units from the WoC roster - Mammoths, Skin Wolves, Fimir, these are all WoC units. By that logic we already have a race that was not implemented as per it's 8th edition.
In addition are we not forgetting that WoC already have a greater Deamon as a Lord?
Feel free to point out any I have missed... but you have to admit apart from "Bear with us" everything is chaos related... and Bear with us could just indicate a Kislev pre-order (which I think is likely).
• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
They said that Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos would be implemented as their army books depicted them. This is something most people infer to mean, taht monogods are unrealistic, since they would simply share too many units from those two factions.
This is an often mis-quoted stated. They said WoC & DoC would be separate - however what does that mean?
No one is suggesting WoC would disappear as a faction; nor that we can't have DoC undivided content. Only that we may have Mono-God factions separate to WoC. This does not prohibit the statement.
WoC Khorne Nurgle Slaanesh Tzeentch
As five races - these are separate from one another are they not? How else could you describe it?
We have had far far too many hints (and even a leak) to suggest Mono-Gods are impossible based on the interpretation of a quote.
Depends on what you mean by the 4 god races here. If they have both mortal and daemon units, no they are not separate. And there's not enough content for 4 races of just pure daemons. I can't find the quote quickly but it was implied that daemons will be implemented as their 8th edition armybook. This does not exclude "mixed" subfactions coming as well or CA changing their mind later, but not doing undivided DoC would mean they're the only 8th edition codex that is not implemented and a big disappointment for everyone who wants them (believe me we exist).
Yap that’s the best solution in my opinion. Let Valkia have access to a few Khorne DoC units and maybe even a Lord. But she should still be a WoC faction with buffs for Khorne units.
Unless somebody can provide a direct link to where CA said they won't do Araby because of terrorism concerns it is **** and never happened.
Also Halflings have the most published material out of all the extant non army book races.
I'm still puzzled why they never did Araby.
It would have come out at the same time as Aladdin. They're close enough (fantasy Arabia) that it would've been a pretty good time to piggyback that.
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• UNLIKELY to BARELY POSSIBLE (extremely limited official contents to none)
- Nippon - Khuresh/Serpent Naga - Kingdom of Ind - Albion - Amazons - Araby (CA already dropped a no-no due to terrorism issues)
Amazons are POSSIBLE.
DoW/Southern Realms are VERY LIKELY.
Monogods are UNLIKELY.
Monogods are infinitely more likely than Cathay, are you kidding here?
CA said they won’t do monogods when they stated that WoC and DoC won’t be mixed. They never lost a negative word about Cathay. So Cathay is more likely than Monogods.
Really??? There a quote on that? If they have directly said no to MonoGods that would be good to know.
They said that Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos would be implemented as their army books depicted them. This is something most people infer to mean, taht monogods are unrealistic, since they would simply share too many units from those two factions.
This is an often mis-quoted stated. They said WoC & DoC would be separate - however what does that mean?
No one is suggesting WoC would disappear as a faction; nor that we can't have DoC undivided content. Only that we may have Mono-God factions separate to WoC. This does not prohibit the statement.
WoC Khorne Nurgle Slaanesh Tzeentch
As five races - these are separate from one another are they not? How else could you describe it?
We have had far far too many hints (and even a leak) to suggest Mono-Gods are impossible based on the interpretation of a quote.
Depends on what you mean by the 4 god races here. If they have both mortal and daemon units, no they are not separate. And there's not enough content for 4 races of just pure daemons. I can't find the quote quickly but it was implied that daemons will be implemented as their 8th edition armybook. This does not exclude "mixed" subfactions coming as well or CA changing their mind later, but not doing undivided DoC would mean they're the only 8th edition codex that is not implemented and a big disappointment for everyone who wants them (believe me we exist).
Yap that’s the best solution in my opinion. Let Valkia have access to a few Khorne DoC units and maybe even a Lord. But she should still be a WoC faction with buffs for Khorne units.
I'd have the best of both worlds.
Khorne faction - tight 20 units, 2 LLs, 2 heroes. Gets a specific Khorne playthrough.
Then you could use her in the WoC, but obviously you don't get all the Khorne units or the same experience.
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- Khorne
- Ogre Kingdoms
- Kislev (WH1 Bretonnia-like race, expanded later via FLC or PRE-ORDER)
- Chaos Dwarfs
- Legion of Nagash (WH1 Bretonnia-like race, expanded later via FLC or PRE-ORDER)
DLC RACES:
- Tzeentch
- Nurgle
- Dogs of War
- Southern Realms
POSSIBLE ETC.
- Everything CA wants to create. As long as i get those races up there.....i don't mind. Actually every extra race after that would be awesome, so....Cathay, Serpent Naga, Albion or wathever....looks good to me.
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2 · Disagree Agree1. That would be too much for WoC to handle. And just like every other fan of every other race me and the Monos fans want everything or almost everything.
2. It would turn into a Skaven debacle. I love Skaven but, sadly, people now are against Skaven getting any other content. Actually this debacle happened with VCoast and Undead aswell.
3. CA choose to create Norsca, instead of adding all their stuff and mechanics into WoC. Interesting choice, isn't it?
4. CA and GW already took into consideration the addition of the 4 divided Chaos Races. Calling them impossible or pipe dreams would be like denying the truth.
5. If people are advocating the addition of completely not-official fanmade races like Khuresh, Ind or Nippon then i can't see why the simple idea of getting Monos would be forbidden.
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1 · Disagree AgreeI don't think that they will go the way of the mono, becuase it would be extremely expensive to very little reward. Add to that the fact that the fans of Warriors of Chaos, Daemons of Chaos and Beasts of Chaos would all also be cheated out of good units, or be made redundant, and you got a very clear view of exactly why monogod will never ever happen.
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3 · Disagree Agree2. The people against Skaven and VC content are a vocal minority, and would forget about it anyway (already forgot about VC). If you think CA would make a Skaven or VC DLC and it wouldn't do well (for reasons it's Skaven or VC) you'd be surprised. Thanquol and VC content are coming (obviously not immediately in case of Skaven as you don't want to do too much of one thing in a row, but I think Neffy might be really close). Also if you think adding 4 new homebrew races would fly any better, do you think people would be more accepting of every Skaven great clan being its own RACE with 4 LLs?
3. Norsca was created to replace the placeholder "WoC light" faction that occupied a significant portion of the map. It makes a better case for Hobgoblins than for Monos.
4. Personally I'm not calling them impossible, but I don't think they're likely given the current state of things. You're free to think otherwise of course.
5. Most of these won't happen, but if they do, they won't happen at the cost of an official race like DoC.
Also, it seems this thread is not about what's likely, but what about different people want to see lol. The fact that you want monos doesn't make them very likely. Just like the fact that someone doesn't want them does not make them impossible.
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3 · Disagree AgreeOn-Topic: at this point everything is possible but Araby.
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1 · Disagree AgreeKislev
Ogre Kingdoms
Daemons of Chaos
Chaos Dwarfs
Campaign packs:
Dogs of War
Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder:
Nagash (but not as a new race, he'll bring new goodies for the vampire counts, several new LLs and have a very unique campaign, but's it's not going to be a brand new race like Tomb Kings or Norsca.)
Anything beyond those six are based on wishful thinking on our parts. Cathay will only happen if GW is actively creating Cathay for the Old World for instance. And "monogods" are literally all the missing things from BM and WoC combined with the Daemons of Chaos roster and divided into four different colors; they'll come as factions, but not as distinct races; this isn't Age of Sigmar here.
RIP my serpent-naga...
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Ogre Kingdoms
Daemons of Chaos
Chaos Dwarfs
--- This should not be debated, nothing else makes any sense.
Campaign packs:
Mono Gods
Hobgoblin Khanate
Preorder:
DoW/Southern Realms/Border Princes
I honestly believe that those options make the most sense, by far, everything else is a Lord Pack for each Game 1 or Game 2 Race, which will receive 1 update.
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0 · Disagree AgreeThe likelihood for Cathay is more to do with running out of what CA see as sell-able options.
I can imagine the guys working on WH(mobile) would like to apply their version of fantasy to it as they said. Cathay's route in does not come from a update to the original Old World.
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0 · Disagree AgreeRegarding the new Old World TT game, I'm 99% sure that the naming is in reference to the 'the World that Was' of Age of Sigmar, and not just the continent of the world; otherwise they'd never update Elves, Ogres, Lizardmen and Tomb Kings.
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0 · Disagree AgreeNo one is suggesting WoC would disappear as a faction; nor that we can't have DoC undivided content. Only that we may have Mono-God factions separate to WoC. This does not prohibit the statement.
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Khorne
Nurgle
Slaanesh
Tzeentch
As five races - these are separate from one another are they not? How else could you describe it?
We have had far far too many hints (and even a leak) to suggest Mono-Gods are impossible based on the interpretation of a quote.
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1 · Disagree AgreeWhat I could see is Monofactions. So something similar to Arkhan or Alarielle, where some LLs have access to god specific units from the other race.
Valkia for example should be a WoC LL with god aligned WoC units, stuff like Wrathmongers or units like this:
But these units should be available for all WoC factions. Valkias factions could also get access to certain Khorne themed DoC units.
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3 · Disagree AgreeAlso Halflings have the most published material out of all the extant non army book races.
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4 · Disagree AgreeIn addition are we not forgetting that WoC already have a greater Deamon as a Lord?
So we already have a mixed WoC & DoC roster...
I have also made this thread;
https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/278848/ca-blog-hints-warhammer-3/p1?new=1
Feel free to point out any I have missed... but you have to admit apart from "Bear with us" everything is chaos related... and Bear with us could just indicate a Kislev pre-order (which I think is likely).
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3 · Disagree AgreeIt would have come out at the same time as Aladdin. They're close enough (fantasy Arabia) that it would've been a pretty good time to piggyback that.
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1 · Disagree AgreeKhorne faction - tight 20 units, 2 LLs, 2 heroes. Gets a specific Khorne playthrough.
Then you could use her in the WoC, but obviously you don't get all the Khorne units or the same experience.
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