Gravelords and LPs

Goatforce

Now, we have seen alignment between GW releases and TW:WH DLCs before - for example the Lumineth release and G&G, or a G&F release (I believe the new model, I forget the specifics) and G&F in the game.

That said, there has been some speculation on Vamp releases online, and it got me thinking. With the upcoming Soulblight Gravelords for AoS, could there be a coinciding LP featuring Vamps - or at least was there meant to be one, but of course the Gravelords release has likely been rather delayed (I assume we were likely meant to get them April-ish, it may be later now) but either way it could be suggestive.

I do also wonder, since they appear to be going for a more classical vamp look, if we will get some updates to older models like the Abyssal Terror, which may be used in a VC LP.

Anyway, I thought it was a point worth making - and this also isn't a thread suggesting it as the LP that "should" come, so please no "no it should be BM" or such

Neodeinos

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Goatforce

neodeinos said:

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Don't think so, but my point is it does seem to have been done before, and if BM or WoC aren't in a LP (maybe, as CA said, because WEs were an experiment, so they had other plans for after) the VCs would be a major contender fo a LP spot.

Neodeinos

Goatforce said:

neodeinos said:

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Don't think so, but my point is it does seem to have been done before, and if BM or WoC aren't in a LP (maybe, as CA said, because WEs were an experiment, so they had other plans for after) the VCs would be a major contender fo a LP spot.

I guess I could see a Necrarch lord pack but any other bloodlines don't really fit in Warhammer 2's map imo.

ArneSo

neodeinos said:

Goatforce said:

neodeinos said:

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Don't think so, but my point is it does seem to have been done before, and if BM or WoC aren't in a LP (maybe, as CA said, because WEs were an experiment, so they had other plans for after) the VCs would be a major contender fo a LP spot.

I guess I could see a Necrarch lord pack but any other bloodlines don't really fit in Warhammer 2's map imo.

Ushoran would fit since his faction and Mourkhain are on the map. But he seems like FLC material to me.

If VC get added to the Vortex it should be Zacharias (LP) + Ushoran (FLC).

Goatforce

neodeinos said:

Goatforce said:

neodeinos said:

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Don't think so, but my point is it does seem to have been done before, and if BM or WoC aren't in a LP (maybe, as CA said, because WEs were an experiment, so they had other plans for after) the VCs would be a major contender fo a LP spot.

I guess I could see a Necrarch lord pack but any other bloodlines don't really fit in Warhammer 2's map imo.

Yeah I was thinking Zacharius. He would make sense in Nehekhara, trying to get artifacts or something. I guess you could even have him attacking DEs for a similar reason, but Nehekhara makes more sense (a VC vs TK pack would be awesome, but not going to happen unfortunately).

Neodeinos

ArneSo said:

neodeinos said:

Goatforce said:

neodeinos said:

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Don't think so, but my point is it does seem to have been done before, and if BM or WoC aren't in a LP (maybe, as CA said, because WEs were an experiment, so they had other plans for after) the VCs would be a major contender fo a LP spot.

I guess I could see a Necrarch lord pack but any other bloodlines don't really fit in Warhammer 2's map imo.

Ushoran would fit since his faction and Mourkhain are on the map. But he seems like FLC material to me.

If VC get added to the Vortex it should be Zacharias (LP) + Ushoran (FLC).

Mourkhain isn't on the Vortex.

yolordmcswag

neodeinos said:

ArneSo said:

neodeinos said:

Goatforce said:

neodeinos said:

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Don't think so, but my point is it does seem to have been done before, and if BM or WoC aren't in a LP (maybe, as CA said, because WEs were an experiment, so they had other plans for after) the VCs would be a major contender fo a LP spot.

I guess I could see a Necrarch lord pack but any other bloodlines don't really fit in Warhammer 2's map imo.

Ushoran would fit since his faction and Mourkhain are on the map. But he seems like FLC material to me.

If VC get added to the Vortex it should be Zacharias (LP) + Ushoran (FLC).

Mourkhain isn't on the Vortex.

It used to be at least. You could build the "Ruins of Mourkhain" landmark in Galbaraz in the vortex campaign, I did it as Arkhan. The landmark was moved on mortal empires when they did the badlands rework, not sure if they removed it from vortex Galbaraz aswell.

Selakah

The Vampire Counts are in a very interesting situation. In the same way the Skaven have several Major and Minor clans, the Counts have 5 different Bloodlines that, in my opinion, should receive as much attention as the Skaven received for their clans.

The problem is that currently, the Counts are sitting at 6 Legendary Lords and only 1 Bloodline is represented: Von Carstein. We are missing representation for the Strigoi, Lahmian, Blood Dragon and Necrarch Bloodlines. While CA could knock two of these in a single DLC + FLC combo, my thinking is that there is a possibility we might see a pre-order Legions of Nagash or Vampire Counts Campaign Pack of sorts that includes 1 representative of each Bloodline. Doing it this way would finally bring representation to all of the Bloodlines, in addition to rounding up the list of Mortarchs for a potential Nagash End Times event in Game 3 to go along with the Chaos Invasion.

A Campaign Pack with the following 4 Legendary Lords and Units would be a very elegant way of doing this, IMHO:

• Lahmian Bloodline: Neferata, bringing with her Coven Thrones and remodeled female Lahmian Vampire Lords, as well as Neferata's Sisterhood and an Intrigue at Court mechanic.
  
• Strigoi Bloodline: Ushoran, bringing with him new variants of Crypt Ghouls.
  
• Necrarch: Zacharias the Everliving, bringing wtih him a new model for the Necrarch Vampire Lord and riderless Zombie Dragons.
  
• Blood Dragon Bloodline: Abhorash, the first Blood Dragon, bringing with him a new model for the Blood Dragon Lord, as well as a new variant of Blood Knights, Knights of the Black Grail, corrupted Grail Knights.
  

In addition to this, you can add a few extra units: Abyssal Terrors, Cairn Wraith hero, Patchwork Men, Wickerman, etc.

A Campaign Pack like this would be immediately playable, day 1, on Warhammer 3, and only playable in Mortal Empires in WH2. It would be the pre-order DLC for WH3.

ArneSo

neodeinos said:

ArneSo said:

neodeinos said:

Goatforce said:

neodeinos said:

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Don't think so, but my point is it does seem to have been done before, and if BM or WoC aren't in a LP (maybe, as CA said, because WEs were an experiment, so they had other plans for after) the VCs would be a major contender fo a LP spot.

I guess I could see a Necrarch lord pack but any other bloodlines don't really fit in Warhammer 2's map imo.

Ushoran would fit since his faction and Mourkhain are on the map. But he seems like FLC material to me.

If VC get added to the Vortex it should be Zacharias (LP) + Ushoran (FLC).

Mourkhain isn't on the Vortex.

It is a Landmark in that Badlands Province so Ca would just have to rename the settlement.

But if CA uses the Drycha approach for him he could be ME only.

Neodeinos

ArneSo said:

neodeinos said:

ArneSo said:

neodeinos said:

Goatforce said:

neodeinos said:

Was T&T aligned with a GW release ?

Don't think so, but my point is it does seem to have been done before, and if BM or WoC aren't in a LP (maybe, as CA said, because WEs were an experiment, so they had other plans for after) the VCs would be a major contender fo a LP spot.

I guess I could see a Necrarch lord pack but any other bloodlines don't really fit in Warhammer 2's map imo.

Ushoran would fit since his faction and Mourkhain are on the map. But he seems like FLC material to me.

If VC get added to the Vortex it should be Zacharias (LP) + Ushoran (FLC).

Mourkhain isn't on the Vortex.

It is a Landmark in that Badlands Province so Ca would just have to rename the settlement.

But if CA uses the Drycha approach for him he could be ME only.

I could be wrong but I think it's no longer a landmark.

RomeoReject

Eh... I'm dubious of this one. There's been some crossover between GW and CA, and I fully expect to see that again when Kislev launches. But an Age of Sigmar release influencing a Warhammer Fantasy release? Just don't see it, myself.

Goatforce

RomeoReject said:

Eh... I'm dubious of this one. There's been some crossover between GW and CA, and I fully expect to see that again when Kislev launches. But an Age of Sigmar release influencing a Warhammer Fantasy release? Just don't see it, myself.

I'm not saying there is a necessary connection, just noting that we have had either linked (G&F) content before or releases that coincide with GW releases (Lumineth and Eltharion). If we get a LP, and it isn't BM or WoC, then VCs are a strong candidate - as I believe other than those they are the race that has gone longest without a DLC, and second longest without an update in general, and the next DLC release will come out around when they are announced if we are indeed getting a LP - it would be a nice synergy, just like the W&P.

RomeoReject

Goatforce said:

RomeoReject said:

Eh... I'm dubious of this one. There's been some crossover between GW and CA, and I fully expect to see that again when Kislev launches. But an Age of Sigmar release influencing a Warhammer Fantasy release? Just don't see it, myself.

I'm not saying there is a necessary connection, just noting that we have had either linked (G&F) content before or releases that coincide with GW releases (Lumineth and Eltharion). If we get a LP, and it isn't BM or WoC, then VCs are a strong candidate - as I believe other than those they are the race that has gone longest without a DLC, and second longest without an update in general, and the next DLC release will come out around when they are announced if we are indeed getting a LP - it would be a nice synergy, just like the W&P.

I don't really see a connection between Lumineth and Eltharion, personally. Just coincidental timing that two vaguely similar things released near eachother. As for the Vamps, I'm not going to requote my entire video, but there's more evidence in favour of Beastmen/Warriors, and stronger evidence, than there is for Vamps.

I'm not saying abandon all hope now or anything, but just, don't read too far in to Age of Sigmar and get yourself too worked up over nothing. Worst case scenario, nothing happens. Best case scenario, I'm wrong and you're pleasantly surprised.

Goatforce

RomeoReject said:

Goatforce said:

RomeoReject said:

Eh... I'm dubious of this one. There's been some crossover between GW and CA, and I fully expect to see that again when Kislev launches. But an Age of Sigmar release influencing a Warhammer Fantasy release? Just don't see it, myself.

I'm not saying there is a necessary connection, just noting that we have had either linked (G&F) content before or releases that coincide with GW releases (Lumineth and Eltharion). If we get a LP, and it isn't BM or WoC, then VCs are a strong candidate - as I believe other than those they are the race that has gone longest without a DLC, and second longest without an update in general, and the next DLC release will come out around when they are announced if we are indeed getting a LP - it would be a nice synergy, just like the W&P.

I don't really see a connection between Lumineth and Eltharion, personally. Just coincidental timing that two vaguely similar things released near eachother. As for the Vamps, I'm not going to requote my entire video, but there's more evidence in favour of Beastmen/Warriors, and stronger evidence, than there is for Vamps.

I'm not saying abandon all hope now or anything, but just, don't read too far in to Age of Sigmar and get yourself too worked up over nothing. Worst case scenario, nothing happens. Best case scenario, I'm wrong and you're pleasantly surprised.

Well it was the Eltharion pack and One of Lumineth named characters was in fact Eltharion. Again I am not saying there is some massive connection, it could well have been a coincidence but there could have been some coordination (H&B was a weird start to X-LPs, everyone who was predicting X-LPs before then was unsuprisingly predicting that matchup first, as it would have made more sense).

I am not saying that there is massive evidence for this, I believe that BM and WoC are far more likely, I am just noting the upcoming vamp release and the fact that the WEs were an experiment for CA they may not have planned DLC for DLC straight after their first attempt, just in case. Then it would be a good time to release a DLC for the Vamps and realistically in that scenario it would be either vamps or dwarfs as the game 1 race.