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  • UberReptilian#8431UberReptilian#8431 Registered Users Posts: 5,487

    (unless the Cathay curveball comes out of nowhere).

    GO CATHAY! YOU CAN DO IT!

  • DeadpoolSW#7283DeadpoolSW#7283 Registered Users Posts: 3,167

    (unless the Cathay curveball comes out of nowhere).

    GO CATHAY! YOU CAN DO IT!

    Trailer: CD, DoC and Kislev are all fighting each other- an ogre stands on the horizon, then gets crushed by a Cathayan dragon- Ogres are now extinct in game and we're never going to get them.
    Nagash will rule again!Justice for Araby, Albion, Amazons, Halflings, Nippon, Ind, Khuresh & the Hobgoblin Khanate!
  • UberReptilian#8431UberReptilian#8431 Registered Users Posts: 5,487

    (unless the Cathay curveball comes out of nowhere).

    GO CATHAY! YOU CAN DO IT!

    Trailer: CD, DoC and Kislev are all fighting each other- an ogre stands on the horizon, then gets crushed by a Cathayan dragon- Ogres are now extinct in game and we're never going to get them.
    CA makes the Ogres Pre Order and we repeat the WI Chaos Warriors fiasco again.
  • #324448#324448 Registered Users Posts: 2,150

    (unless the Cathay curveball comes out of nowhere).

    GO CATHAY! YOU CAN DO IT!

    Trailer: CD, DoC and Kislev are all fighting each other- an ogre stands on the horizon, then gets crushed by a Cathayan dragon- Ogres are now extinct in game and we're never going to get them.

    (unless the Cathay curveball comes out of nowhere).

    GO CATHAY! YOU CAN DO IT!

    Trailer: CD, DoC and Kislev are all fighting each other- an ogre stands on the horizon, then gets crushed by a Cathayan dragon- Ogres are now extinct in game and we're never going to get them.
    CA makes the Ogres Pre Order and we repeat the WI Chaos Warriors fiasco again.
    I REJECT THEE, SATAN!
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  • AxiosXiphos#9040AxiosXiphos#9040 Registered Users Posts: 10,116
    BY GOD IT'S CATHAY WITH A STEEL CHAIR



  • Thursdaythe12thThursdaythe12th Registered Users Posts: 145
    Red_Dox said:

    Daemons are either a playable faction (or factions) at launch for Game 3...


    Armybook = race. Every race can have several factions, which are already laid out in said armybook and might be get extra treatment through certain additional armylists from various sources later. Like Middenheim or Clan Eshin as the more prominent examples.


    This would allow for a Undivided faction under Be'lakor and divided factions under Lords as Kairos Fateweaver and Valkia the Bloody Skulltaker for the DoC race.

    Valkia is not a daemon and rather belongs to the mortal WoC race, and there for a WoC faction. Which we also cleary get with the armybook she started in and ended up with during 8th edition: Warriors of Chaos. Not Daemons of Chaos.
    Anyone who want to jump my face for this because "muh lore blurb says Daemon Princess", should read this up first
    https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/274401/champions-of-chaos-valkia

    ------Red Dox
    "On a personal note, what irks me most with Valkia is her story. Arbaal is the Champion because he is literally Undefeated. Valkia simply died before she could finish her self proclaimed quest. And then she was resurrected and gifted with her demonic transformation as a reward for...dying? "

    The biggest problem I have with her. I'd much prefer Arbaal. Cool name, cool guy, cool mount.
  • AxiosXiphos#9040AxiosXiphos#9040 Registered Users Posts: 10,116
    edited January 2021

    Red_Dox said:

    Daemons are either a playable faction (or factions) at launch for Game 3...


    Armybook = race. Every race can have several factions, which are already laid out in said armybook and might be get extra treatment through certain additional armylists from various sources later. Like Middenheim or Clan Eshin as the more prominent examples.


    This would allow for a Undivided faction under Be'lakor and divided factions under Lords as Kairos Fateweaver and Valkia the Bloody Skulltaker for the DoC race.

    Valkia is not a daemon and rather belongs to the mortal WoC race, and there for a WoC faction. Which we also cleary get with the armybook she started in and ended up with during 8th edition: Warriors of Chaos. Not Daemons of Chaos.
    Anyone who want to jump my face for this because "muh lore blurb says Daemon Princess", should read this up first
    https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/274401/champions-of-chaos-valkia

    ------Red Dox
    "On a personal note, what irks me most with Valkia is her story. Arbaal is the Champion because he is literally Undefeated. Valkia simply died before she could finish her self proclaimed quest. And then she was resurrected and gifted with her demonic transformation as a reward for...dying? "

    The biggest problem I have with her. I'd much prefer Arbaal. Cool name, cool guy, cool mount.
    Well what you are forgetting about Valkia is she was super hot. And Khorne at the end of the day - still has certain needs (apparently).

    Afterall let's not forget Valkia's full title;

    Valkia the bloody, gorequeen and consort of Khorne the Blood God.

  • DavidTWWH#4143DavidTWWH#4143 Registered Users Posts: 1,329
    Crossil said:

    Cadia101 said:

    Could we stop with the pointless mono god debate ?

    Never, that's like 60% of the fun being here. The other 40% is Cathay debates.
    This is why it is time for Monogod stans and Cathayan stans to unite together and take the third game's core!


    You see... this is why I have a hard time believing you when it comes to game 3. Not only do say they'll straight up go for something that seems impossible, but on top of that, that they'll ignore pretty much every armybook left. And I'm having a hard time believing even Monogods is possible nowadays.
    Iokko said:

    If they do end up turning demons into four races I can picture myself getting bored of Lord packs very quickly, since one half would be demons every single time.

    I think you're kinda doomed to that either way. WoC and BM need to be redone in game 3 and on top of that Chaos Dwarfs and Daemons would have to feature in at least half the lord packs.

    All in all, I wouldn't be surprised if Chaos was present in every single lord pack in game 3, simply because of how much it has been left on the back burner. In the end, the largest repository of missing content is Chaos unto itself, so game 3 is doomed to feature Chaos in most if not all of its lord packs.
    I like warriors of chaos, beastmen, and chaos dwarfs, why would I be "doomed"? I like demons too btw, I'd just rather have some LPs feature demons and some feature other races (such as the ones you listed) instead of just demons.
    Stating opinions as if they're facts in your signature and adding "Change my mind" doesn't make them facts, change my mind.
  • Bonutz#3949Bonutz#3949 Registered Users Posts: 5,823
    edited January 2021

    Cadia101 said:

    Could we stop with the pointless mono god debate ?

    Never, that's like 60% of the fun being here. The other 40% is Cathay debates.
    This is why it is time for Monogod stans and Cathayan stans to unite together and take the third game's core!


    So Kislev, Ogres, and Chaos Dwarfs aren’t core? Only Cathay and Monogods? Are you joking or serious?

    You’ve normally been right with your hints and prophecies but that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Hopefully you’re joking lol.
    I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass...and I’m all out of bubblegum.
  • Cadia101Cadia101 Registered Users Posts: 1,400
    Bonutz said:

    Cadia101 said:

    Could we stop with the pointless mono god debate ?

    Never, that's like 60% of the fun being here. The other 40% is Cathay debates.
    This is why it is time for Monogod stans and Cathayan stans to unite together and take the third game's core!


    So Kislev, Ogres, and Chaos Dwarfs aren’t core? Only Cathay and Monogods? Are you joking or serious?

    You’ve normally been right with your hints and prophecies but that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Hopefully you’re joking lol.
    Wouldn’t be the first time he is completely wrong about a prediction.
  • Bonutz#3949Bonutz#3949 Registered Users Posts: 5,823
    Cadia101 said:

    Bonutz said:

    Cadia101 said:

    Could we stop with the pointless mono god debate ?

    Never, that's like 60% of the fun being here. The other 40% is Cathay debates.
    This is why it is time for Monogod stans and Cathayan stans to unite together and take the third game's core!


    So Kislev, Ogres, and Chaos Dwarfs aren’t core? Only Cathay and Monogods? Are you joking or serious?

    You’ve normally been right with your hints and prophecies but that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Hopefully you’re joking lol.
    Wouldn’t be the first time he is completely wrong about a prediction.
    I really can’t find anything glaring he’s been wrong about. He’s been right on pretty much everything from what I’ve seen. Even getting exact starting locations, DLC units, FLC lords, and map expansions right down to an exact detail.

    In this case though, I sincerely hope he’s wrong lol.
    I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass...and I’m all out of bubblegum.
  • urbanmechurbanmech Registered Users Posts: 1,239
    Bonutz said:

    Cadia101 said:

    Could we stop with the pointless mono god debate ?

    Never, that's like 60% of the fun being here. The other 40% is Cathay debates.
    This is why it is time for Monogod stans and Cathayan stans to unite together and take the third game's core!


    So Kislev, Ogres, and Chaos Dwarfs aren’t core? Only Cathay and Monogods? Are you joking or serious?

    You’ve normally been right with your hints and prophecies but that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Hopefully you’re joking lol.
    I'm memeing not dropping hints lol.

    Āeksios Ōño, īlōn mīsās! Kesrio syt bantis zōbrie issa se ossȳngnoti lēdys!
    Cadia101 said:



    Wouldn’t be the first time he is completely wrong about a prediction.

    Ikr, I am still perplexed about this whole prophet thing.
  • Bonutz#3949Bonutz#3949 Registered Users Posts: 5,823

    Bonutz said:

    Cadia101 said:

    Could we stop with the pointless mono god debate ?

    Never, that's like 60% of the fun being here. The other 40% is Cathay debates.
    This is why it is time for Monogod stans and Cathayan stans to unite together and take the third game's core!


    So Kislev, Ogres, and Chaos Dwarfs aren’t core? Only Cathay and Monogods? Are you joking or serious?

    You’ve normally been right with your hints and prophecies but that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Hopefully you’re joking lol.
    I'm memeing not dropping hints lol.

    Āeksios Ōño, īlōn mīsās! Kesrio syt bantis zōbrie issa se ossȳngnoti lēdys!
    Cadia101 said:



    Wouldn’t be the first time he is completely wrong about a prediction.

    Ikr, I am still perplexed about this whole prophet thing.
    https://youtu.be/0B0pXKELvLw
    I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass...and I’m all out of bubblegum.
  • SaintCorn#3148SaintCorn#3148 Registered Users Posts: 2,989

    Bonutz said:

    Cadia101 said:

    Could we stop with the pointless mono god debate ?

    Never, that's like 60% of the fun being here. The other 40% is Cathay debates.
    This is why it is time for Monogod stans and Cathayan stans to unite together and take the third game's core!


    So Kislev, Ogres, and Chaos Dwarfs aren’t core? Only Cathay and Monogods? Are you joking or serious?

    You’ve normally been right with your hints and prophecies but that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Hopefully you’re joking lol.
    I'm memeing not dropping hints lol.

    Āeksios Ōño, īlōn mīsās! Kesrio syt bantis zōbrie issa se ossȳngnoti lēdys!
    Cadia101 said:



    Wouldn’t be the first time he is completely wrong about a prediction.

    Ikr, I am still perplexed about this whole prophet thing.
    That's exactly what a prophet of Tzeentch would say!

  • MaelasMaelas Registered Users Posts: 5,180


    However my heart still says Kislev are the pre-order; and if Kislev are the pre-order that pretty much guarantees mono-gods as independent factions to me (unless the Cathay curveball comes out of nowhere).

    My heart keep telling me DoW as pre-order, Cathay core and Kislev as Bretonnia 2.0. With such a configuration, monogods would be quite possible too !
  • #25795#25795 Registered Users Posts: 839
    Maelas said:


    However my heart still says Kislev are the pre-order; and if Kislev are the pre-order that pretty much guarantees mono-gods as independent factions to me (unless the Cathay curveball comes out of nowhere).

    My heart keep telling me DoW as pre-order, Cathay core and Kislev as Bretonnia 2.0. With such a configuration, monogods would be quite possible too !
    It's very unlikely that we'll ever get a FLC race like brettonia again. It was simply done as a lot of the units were already in the game. Likewise I'm sure CA is aware of the craving this fanbase has for gaint bear cav so it's unlikely they'd just give it away.
  • MaelasMaelas Registered Users Posts: 5,180


    On a personal note, what irks me most with Valkia is her story. Arbaal is the Champion because he is literally Undefeated. Valkia simply died before she could finish her self proclaimed quest. And then she was resurrected and gifted with her demonic transformation as a reward for...dying?

    The biggest problem I have with her. I'd much prefer Arbaal. Cool name, cool guy, cool mount.

    Valkia killed a demon prince and decided, out of worship for Khorne, to do the most stupidly impossible of quests. She died, after carving a bloody path through countless demons, because no matter, she would have kept going until either her death or every non-khorne demons were eradicated. Arbaal would have suffered the exact same fate as Valkia, if he had dared to try her quest, as would have any other chaos character, that's the point, her quest was impossible, you can't hold it against her.

    And anyways, Khorne rewarded her martial skills and her peerless dedication, those two things were unrelated to her success.

    If you want a real khorne loser, just take Angrynfinn or whatever his name is.
  • RomeoReject#1666RomeoReject#1666 Registered Users Posts: 2,258

    (unless the Cathay curveball comes out of nowhere).

    GO CATHAY! YOU CAN DO IT!

    Trailer: CD, DoC and Kislev are all fighting each other- an ogre stands on the horizon, then gets crushed by a Cathayan dragon- Ogres are now extinct in game and we're never going to get them.
    CA makes the Ogres Pre Order and we repeat the WI Chaos Warriors fiasco again.
    Pre-Ogre Bonus.
  • RamsesIII#4621RamsesIII#4621 Registered Users Posts: 1,179
    I think that the best chance for WH3 to have more than four races is if WoC are part of the base roster, bringing a good bunch of new units but not having all the ones from the game 1 pre-order DLC (to have an incentive to buy it), possibly more focused around the god-aligned units and LLs. We do know that WoC wasn't originally planned to be playable in game 1 so it might have been planned as a base game 3 race, but who knows.

    I also think there's a (small) chance DoC might get 4LL in the base game, since it's debatably the race with the most named characters along with WoC and we're inevitably going to be missing a good bunch of them even if they get many lord packs, and it would be nice to have a LL for each chaos god. That being said it might be odd to not have an undivided LL at launch when the lord pack format works so well with factions focused on a single chaos god.
  • Crossil#2134Crossil#2134 Registered Users Posts: 14,927
    SaintCorn said:

    Bonutz said:

    Cadia101 said:

    Could we stop with the pointless mono god debate ?

    Never, that's like 60% of the fun being here. The other 40% is Cathay debates.
    This is why it is time for Monogod stans and Cathayan stans to unite together and take the third game's core!


    So Kislev, Ogres, and Chaos Dwarfs aren’t core? Only Cathay and Monogods? Are you joking or serious?

    You’ve normally been right with your hints and prophecies but that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Hopefully you’re joking lol.
    I'm memeing not dropping hints lol.

    Āeksios Ōño, īlōn mīsās! Kesrio syt bantis zōbrie issa se ossȳngnoti lēdys!
    Cadia101 said:



    Wouldn’t be the first time he is completely wrong about a prediction.

    Ikr, I am still perplexed about this whole prophet thing.
    That's exactly what a prophet of Tzeentch would say!
    That's why I'm a Nurgle worshipper. I bring news of joy and bliss without any strings attached. All is laid bare.
    Furthermore, I consider that Daemon Prince must be removed.
  • Xenos777Xenos777 Registered Users Posts: 8,038
    My bet is: two daemon monogod armies at the start, ogres, DoW. Kislev and Chaos Dawi as race packs, Nagash as pre-order.
  • RamsesIII#4621RamsesIII#4621 Registered Users Posts: 1,179
    edited January 2021
    Xenos7777 said:

    My bet is: two daemon monogod armies at the start, ogres, DoW. Kislev and Chaos Dawi as race packs, Nagash as pre-order.

    Wait, what about the other two daemon monogod armies?
  • Xenos777Xenos777 Registered Users Posts: 8,038
    RamsesIII said:

    Xenos7777 said:

    My bet is: two daemon monogod armies at the start, ogres, DoW. Kislev and Chaos Dawi as race packs, Nagash as pre-order.

    Wait, what about the other two daemon monogod armies?
    Possibly as lord packs.
  • RamsesIII#4621RamsesIII#4621 Registered Users Posts: 1,179
    Xenos7777 said:

    RamsesIII said:

    Xenos7777 said:

    My bet is: two daemon monogod armies at the start, ogres, DoW. Kislev and Chaos Dawi as race packs, Nagash as pre-order.

    Wait, what about the other two daemon monogod armies?
    Possibly as lord packs.
    Oh, I interpreted your earlier comment as two separate daemon monogod races.
  • Xenos777Xenos777 Registered Users Posts: 8,038
    RamsesIII said:

    Xenos7777 said:

    RamsesIII said:

    Xenos7777 said:

    My bet is: two daemon monogod armies at the start, ogres, DoW. Kislev and Chaos Dawi as race packs, Nagash as pre-order.

    Wait, what about the other two daemon monogod armies?
    Possibly as lord packs.
    Oh, I interpreted your earlier comment as two separate daemon monogod races.
    It's just a wild guess, but I think we'll get two deamon races with two lords each and the bulk of daemonic content at release, then the other two through lord packs and FLC. One combined daemon race with multiple LP focused on different gods, like the skaven clans, seems possible too, but looking at the roster and the characters, it's really a lot of stuff, probably too much.
  • MythrilSoulMythrilSoul Registered Users Posts: 1,038
    until proven otherwise i take the "chaotic, slavering, hungry and un-bear-able" hints in the CA post as "confirmation" of the usual suspects as the starting races of game 3
  • Captain_Rex#1635Captain_Rex#1635 Registered Users Posts: 39,494
    I have to admit that monos grew on me. I just want my unique Nurgle race with the Glottkin, Tamurkkhan and Gutrot Spume.

    Where are my Blightkings CA?
    Summon the Elector Counts!
  • Man2008kind#9439Man2008kind#9439 Registered Users Posts: 1,856
    ArneSo said:

    I have to admit that monos grew on me. I just want my unique Nurgle race with the Glottkin, Tamurkkhan and Gutrot Spume.

    Where are my Blightkings CA?

    Or you could play DoC using only Nurgle units, so Monogods don't take the slots of other, more diverse races.
  • Thursdaythe12thThursdaythe12th Registered Users Posts: 145
    Maelas said:


    On a personal note, what irks me most with Valkia is her story. Arbaal is the Champion because he is literally Undefeated. Valkia simply died before she could finish her self proclaimed quest. And then she was resurrected and gifted with her demonic transformation as a reward for...dying?

    The biggest problem I have with her. I'd much prefer Arbaal. Cool name, cool guy, cool mount.

    Valkia killed a demon prince and decided, out of worship for Khorne, to do the most stupidly impossible of quests. She died, after carving a bloody path through countless demons, because no matter, she would have kept going until either her death or every non-khorne demons were eradicated. Arbaal would have suffered the exact same fate as Valkia, if he had dared to try her quest, as would have any other chaos character, that's the point, her quest was impossible, you can't hold it against her.

    And anyways, Khorne rewarded her martial skills and her peerless dedication, those two things were unrelated to her success.

    If you want a real khorne loser, just take Angrynfinn or whatever his name is.
    Still failed though. If anything, she'd be 'rewarded' with spawndom. Her skull is as good as any other for the throne.
  • UberReptilian#8431UberReptilian#8431 Registered Users Posts: 5,487

    Maelas said:


    On a personal note, what irks me most with Valkia is her story. Arbaal is the Champion because he is literally Undefeated. Valkia simply died before she could finish her self proclaimed quest. And then she was resurrected and gifted with her demonic transformation as a reward for...dying?

    The biggest problem I have with her. I'd much prefer Arbaal. Cool name, cool guy, cool mount.

    Valkia killed a demon prince and decided, out of worship for Khorne, to do the most stupidly impossible of quests. She died, after carving a bloody path through countless demons, because no matter, she would have kept going until either her death or every non-khorne demons were eradicated. Arbaal would have suffered the exact same fate as Valkia, if he had dared to try her quest, as would have any other chaos character, that's the point, her quest was impossible, you can't hold it against her.

    And anyways, Khorne rewarded her martial skills and her peerless dedication, those two things were unrelated to her success.

    If you want a real khorne loser, just take Angrynfinn or whatever his name is.
    Still failed though. If anything, she'd be 'rewarded' with spawndom. Her skull is as good as any other for the throne.
    Well the real story is that Khorne is just simping for her. He couldn't care less if she is actually worthy of Daemonhood, she just UwU's at him and his weak heart melts. He just wants a waifu to prove to Slannesh the ladies like him too. If Arbaal or Egil were women you can bet he'd accend them too if/when they failed.
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